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He definetly doesn't want it destroyed. What was he going to use the Triforce for in WW? To drain the water away and have Hyrule once again awaken. You can't rule over what doesn't exist.Destiny Smasher said:?
Not necessarily.
After all, I don't think Ganon wants Hyrule destroyed.
Sephiroth27 said:Can’t anybody just leave a good game alone?
So...it's going to be like all other Zelda games, yet still be original? I'd like to see that.It’s going to be a good, original Zelda game.
Have you seen any of the trailers? There's this funky thing called the Twilight that makes everything around it gray and ashen, and monsters fall out of the sky ("We must tell the Princess!" Sorry, couldn't resist.) So far it doesn't appear to be Ganondorf's doing, but you said...Sephiroth27 said:This thread would be so awesome if people actually came up with good ideas. Ganon teaming up with Link? Sweet. Then they can go after the evil that doesn’t exist and beat the **** out of Zelda.
And ideas people post in this thread directly affect the game itself, the original Zelda game, of which over ten have been made, and Link turns into a wolf in every one of them, right?The more ideas that people in this thread talk about, the more I don’t want to play this game. It’s going to be a good, original Zelda game. Your wild little fantasies are not going to come true. ****.
Why ?Sephiroth27 said:So, by saying Ganondorf teams up with Link would indeed be original, it would nevertheless be idiotic.
Destiny Smasher said:Yea, you've got a negative attitude up there, buddy. The whole point is that we're having fun speculating.
I don't know about you, but I don't want a bland, old Zelda game. I want a GOOD, captivating story that catches me by surprise. I want evolved gameplay. I refuse to settle for an Ocariuna of Time par storyline after all of the hype they've put us through.
No way, Jose. Or Joselita, as the case may be.
I don't want Ganon to be the main evil for the sake of being evil. That's dumb, and cliche, and it gets old.
I like those cases like Majora's Mask, where you get this evilevil villain, but he's evil for a reason.
The Twilight may be Ganon's doing, but it WOULD be amazing if we were caught by surprise to see a new villain.
EnigmaticCam said:What a terrible attitude, Sephiroth27.
Ni...Destiny Smasher said:Yea, you've got a negative attitude up there, buddy. The whole point is that we're having fun speculating.
Not necessary. I highly doubt that the worst villian ever would go through a dungeon with Link, let alone be playable. More than likely, he'd give directions or perhaps help out in a boss fight only to turn on link afterwards or something. *shudder* I really don't want to see link like those 2 from WW.The rAt said:In any case, I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say that I don't really like the idea of Link and Ganon teaming up so much. It isn't because of the shift from the previously established 'normal' or that it strays away from the usual plot, actually those are reasons why I would have liked it. I think it could do wonders for the story. But we have more than the story to consider here; namely gameplay. This could very easily turn into a gimick for new and unnecessary game mechanics. I mean, if Link and Ganon are truly teaming up, then Ganon would have to physically be present with Link to help him along.
Because they are long time enemies. That’s like saying Cloud and Sephiroth would team up. They HATE each other. Having the main hero and the main villain team up would be POINTLESS. There would be no evil to fight. Oh, and I don’t want anybody to say something like “Well there could be a new evil out there that they both don’t want.” No. If there is a new evil out there that would threaten the lives of Link and Zelda, I am certain Ganondorf wouldn’t have a problem with it.Mic_128 said:Why?
The thing is, it seems there IS a new evil. This "Twilight" is transforming Hyrule's residents into animals. Zelda is trapped in there, the only one that has yet to change into an animal, due to the protection of her robe (from what I understand from trailers). How is Gannon going to get the Triforce if he goes in there and changes into an animal? He won't like that. One thing Gannon is, is power hungry. Taking out Link might be on his list, but he wouldn't kill him if it means he'll never get a hold of the last triforce piece. And I assume Cloud and Sephiroth would team up if the planet they're on is about to be destroyed.Sephiroth27 said:Because they are long time enemies. That’s like saying Cloud and Sephiroth would team up. They HATE each other. Having the main hero and the main villain team up would be POINTLESS. There would be no evil to fight.
So since you didn't actually use the word "stupid", then what you said there is completely different, right? God, you have to be kidding me. And also, you couldn't have been reading most of these posts very closely, because most of what people have been saying is not along the lines of a campy Saturday morning superhero cartoon team-up. Most of the opinions posted here are just along the lines of Ganondorf and Link having a common enemy now, and are both going to fight it, which could be side-by-side or on different fields. What I'd like to see more than anything when it comes to this subject, which I'm repeating, but hopefully I have your attention now so you'll notice, is what Ganondorf does and how he reacts when he's no longer the protagonist, when he's under attack from someone else. A cutscene of him being forced to flee (something the char would probably never admit to), with the emotions of embarassment, anger, possibly even fear, showing on his face that this game is apparently going to portray quite well, would add a whole new level or dimension to the char that we haven't seen yet, almost starkly contrasting the Ganondorf in OoT.Sephiroth27 said:My attitude is fine. I just get angered easily when people come up with ideas that are not even worth contemplating about.
Being changed into an animal isn’t necessarily the works of a new evil force. If Ganondorf was an animal, it would just be an inconvenience for him to get the triforce, but I think he could do it. (Depending on what animal he actually is of course)Mic_128 said:The thing is, it seems there IS a new evil. This "Twilight" is transforming Hyrule's residents into animals. Zelda is trapped in there, the only one that has yet to change into an animal, due to the protection of her robe (from what I understand from trailers). How is Gannon going to get the Triforce if he goes in there and changes into an animal? He won't like that. One thing Gannon is, is power hungry. Taking out Link might be on his list, but he wouldn't kill him if it means he'll never get a hold of the last triforce piece.
And I assume you’ve never played Final Fantasy 7.Mic_128 said:And I assume Cloud and Sephiroth would team up if the planet they're on is about to be destroyed.
And I assume you've NEVER played any of the Mario RPGs, in which Mario occasionally teams up with Bowser to fight a bigger evil? I think that works because in previous games you're always fighting with the same characters and looking at Bowser one-dimensionally. Bad or not, he's a cool character! The mario RPGs gave us a chance to use him and for once look at things through his perspective. The Link/Ganon thing would be the same. All of us are used to using Link to fight Ganon. Ganon's always been on the other end of the game. But if he's slightly playable in TP, I think it would make things interestingSephiroth27 said:And I assume you’ve never played Final Fantasy 7.
Although you can argue that Bowser only joined up in Mario RPG to get his castle back: if Smithy landed anywhere else in the world, I don't think Bowser would have cared. And that's not even the best example that comes to my mind.EnigmaticCam said:And I assume you've NEVER played any of the Mario RPGs, in which Mario occasionally teams up with Bowser to fight a bigger evil? I think that works because in previous games you're always fighting with the same characters and looking at Bowser one-dimensionally. Bad or not, he's a cool character! The mario RPGs gave us a chance to use him and for once look at things through his perspective.
Except that I'm willing to bet that when people turn into animals, they not just take on the form of the animal, but BECOME that animal, IE they'll act like the particular Animal. Minda probably gives Link some item so that he doesn't lose his mind when in the Twilight. If the twilight didn't mess up your mind, the Hylians could just walk out of the castle, Zelda included.Sephiroth27 said:Being changed into an animal isn’t necessarily the works of a new evil force. If Ganondorf was an animal, it would just be an inconvenience for him to get the triforce, but I think he could do it. (Depending on what animal he actually is of course).