The King of Iron Fist - Heihachi Mishima

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Yeah Kazuya is OG, and still uses the Mishima fightstyle. Tekken's whole thing is built on Heihachi and Kazuya's eternal beef, and Jin himself is a result of that.

Jin is prime for AT, though I'd prefer Kuma or King lol. Maybe a boss as Devil Jin, actually?
 
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I'd take either old or young Heihachi as long as he's in. As for possible assist trophies, I think Kuma would fit with a playable Heihachi the most.
 

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Gon , a character from Tekken, has his own Manga and all.
Considering that Digimon is a Namco Bandai series, and Tekken is from the same company.
Gon was Tekken version of Agumon.
Maybe if Heihachi joins Smash together with Agumon, they can make a Joke about Heihachi thinking that Agumon is actualy Gon.


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Gon , a character from Tekken, has his own Manga and all.
Considering that Digimon is a Namco Bandai series, and Tekken is from the same company.
Gon was Tekken version of Agumon.
Maybe if Heihachi joins Smash together with Agumon, they can make a Joke about Heihachi thinking that Agumon is actualy Gon.


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But Gon is not a Tekken character.
Gon is his own franchise, it's own Manga character who had a guest role in Tekken 3.
Therefore, he can not be "Tekken's" version of Agumon.

Gon is not owned by Namco Bandai.

Gon would be just like Goku. A character not originated from a video game.
Therefore Gon could never make it into Smash.

Remember how Gon never reapeared in Tekken. That's because of legal issues.

If both would be to make it in, that joke "could" work, but is quite a stretch I'd say.
Still Agumon is a different story than Gon again, as Agumon and the whole digimon did actually originate from a game.
Tamagochi to be exact, which would make up an interesting role in the Smash history.
 

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Besides the fact that Heihachi would be an amazing newcomer to smash, I think the main reason I want him in is for Tekken Mii costumes! (Yes I'm that one guy who actually likes Miis, imagine Jin and Paul as Brawlers, Yoshimitsu as a Swordfighter or even Alisa as a makeshift Gunner! (given she doesn't have an arm cannon but there have been weirder mii costumes, ex. K.K. Slider's).
 
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Besides the fact that Heihachi would be an amazing newcomer to smash, I think the main reason I want him in is for Tekken Mii costumes! (Yes I'm that one guy who actually likes Miis, imagine Jin and Paul as Brawlers, Yoshimitsu as a Swordfighter or even Alisa as a makeshift Gunner! (given she doesn't have an arm cannon but there have been weirder mii costumes, ex. K.K. Slider's).
All the content Tekken might bring I look forward to.

Tekken's cast being represented by mii costumes is a big plus.

But also the trophies we might get of some characters from the franchise!

And don't get me started on the music...
 
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I'm starting to believe that the rest of the roster coming from the Smash Ballot, will be some of the other characters that were Mii costumes in Smash 4 that have yet to be confirmed or deconfirmed for Ultimate. The Inklings, K. Rool, Chrom, and Isabelle were all Mii costumes in Smash 4 and are now playable characters in Ultimate.

Characters from the other Mii costumes I could see make it in are:

Geno
Heihachi
Lloyd
Tails
Skull Kid
Black Knight (Echo Fighter)
 
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Tekken's been one of my favorite series since I was a kid. Jin's my personal favorite, but his Grandad would be just as much of a good choice. I'm gonna try and get more into the individual character threads more. So consider me another supporter of Heihachi.

I think it'd be smart to use the Tiger Gi for his default, but his Tekken 3 alt, with the white suit and red jacket would be killer, it could eve have a Tiger Print variant like in Tekken 5's ending.
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Though the Hamaka is another design that's almost as iconic as the Tiger Gi. He even has variants of that, from Blue(T3, SC2), to Green(TTAG), to Purple(T2) and White(Death by Degrees, though that's pretty obscure). I think he had one more color variation.
 

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So, has anybody fleshed out what his moveset would be in Smash Bros?

Also, I'd prefer Old Heihachi. It seems like the older he got, the more incredible he became, right until the very end.
 

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Glad to see this thread is still alive and kicking. Considering the fact, at least in my eyes, that Heihachi is great with parties outside of his home-game, he'll make a pretty solid addition to the roster, as he was intended to make it in back in the DLC days of Sm4sh, but became a Mii Fighter outfit instead. (This and I only play as him in games that's not Tekken. :p)

I would love to be listed as a supporter. The king of iron fist needs his chance to evolve from a Mii outfit to a playable fighter in Smash Ultimate!
 

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I'm sick and tired of people saying that Heihachi will play just like Ryu. Those people have a lack of understanding of traditional fighting games and believe that every traditional fighting game plays like Street Fighter when that is not true. Heihachi will not play like Ryu because SF and Tekken have entirely different mechanics.
 
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Isn't Jin the main character from Tekken and is related to Heiachi? As someone who is not at all familiar with the Tekken Series why would you pick Heiachi over someone like Jin or Kazuya? Those three seem to be the most focused characters with Jin have the most out of them.
 

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Isn't Jin the main character from Tekken and is related to Heiachi? As someone who is not at all familiar with the Tekken Series why would you pick Heiachi over someone like Jin or Kazuya? Those three seem to be the most focused characters with Jin have the most out of them.
Jin is Heihachi's grandson. Aside from being one of four characters with a perfect attendance record in Tekken, Heihachi's generally used as the face of the series in crossovers like Playstation All-Stars, Pac-Man Fever, and Soul Calibur.

Besides, it's not very often that a villain is the face of a series - Kazuya might also work, but from what little I know about Tekken, he seems to be less prominent than Heihachi.
 
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Jin is Heihachi's grandson. Aside from being one of four characters with a perfect attendance record in Tekken, Heihachi's generally used as the face of the series in crossovers like Playstation All-Stars, Pac-Man Fever, and Soul Calibur.

Besides, it's not very often that a villain is the face of a series - Kazuya might also work, but from what little I know about Tekken, he seems to be less prominent than Heihachi.
Oh. So Heiachi is preferred by Namco itself. Makes sense if they are pushing the character themselves.
 

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Jin is Heihachi's grandson. Aside from being one of four characters with a perfect attendance record in Tekken, Heihachi's generally used as the face of the series in crossovers like Playstation All-Stars, Pac-Man Fever, and Soul Calibur.

Besides, it's not very often that a villain is the face of a series - Kazuya might also work, but from what little I know about Tekken, he seems to be less prominent than Heihachi.
The thing 'bout Kazuya is Namco had a tendency to forget about him, instead focusing on Heihachi in Tekken 3 (which featured a mostly new cast with Kazuya's morality play from Tekken 2 being quickly forgotten), and then when Jin debuted, they built a lot around him until Tekken 6, when Lars came along (Lars is an illegitimate son of Heihachi). I feel like the Mishima Saga in Tekken 7 was meant to close the storyline to try and promote Kazuya to the main antagonist, although given that Namco seems to be more focused on extending the lifespan of Tekken 7 as opposed to just starting on Tekken 8, time will tell on that strategy.
 
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Also, what sound effect would this make, anyway?
I hope it's one of his Tekken 3 clips. Also, considering the new dlc details (every character is from a new series to smash), I'd say Heihachi or one of the main tekken characters have a higher chance. Though, if Sakurai still feels they still can't make a moveset for Hachi, the closest character they could do is probably Kazuya or Tekken 3 Jin/Devil Jin... (Hell, having Kazuya and Jin be swaps would be amazing)
 
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I'm not normally taken to flights of fancy, but I've pondered how Heihachi wouldn't work and think that his complicated movelist isn't necessarily the reason. Using side-B as a transitional move (his crouch-dash) with follow-up commands has been used before in the series, and would allow him to access his most memorable attacks.

The main issue (if you can call it that) with Heihachi's gameplay is that it's fundamentally "Tekken"--high execution, high reward. One could use "smash B" inputs to do Electric Wind God Fist (side-B: side+B again with strict timing, whatever); the issue is whether that's too much. Ryu's unorthodox pressure-sensitive normals are pushing boundaries, so perhaps such challenging standards hold back Heihachi's chances?

Personally, I think the "Old man rushdown" with strong emphasis on frame-perfect timing is a unique niche, which gives him a leg to stand on. Just depends if that's the kind of legs papa Sakurai wants his kids to stand on.
 
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