The Incorporation of Other Characters

[KZEZ]

I personally feel that each character having different strengths and weaknesses that you need to focus on help people see the game a bit differently with their main. I think the most notable one for me is playing Ness helped me a ton in learning not to waste my double jump . But I have also noticed that playing yoshi has helped me learn to shield less (a problem i had), playing falcon/sheik generally helps me tech chase better, playing ganon reminds me how useful jabs can be, luigi makes me consider the lengths of my wavedashes, and puff really makes me think about my spacing.

I feel when these attributes are carried over my main it improves in some ways, even if there is the risk of overincorporating these things that work with others into your game

 

[Stomps]

Capitan Falcon helped me in becoming a man.

 

[choknater]

^way too true^

 

[Krynxe]

Puff helped me in becoming a...

 

[Varist]

**** sucker with blood on your cheeks? i don't get it. what did jigglypuff do.

 

[Bing]

Can you guys please do a MM and upload it to youtube as "Bing vs Internet Explorer"?

Bing is not a browser and Internet Explorer is not a search engine

Im laughing XD

 

[KrIsP!]

Surprised there's no firefox on the boards. Probably was at one point.

 

[adechrist]

Playing Fox improved my finger speed. Making my overall tech skills way better.
Playing Falcon improved my tech chasing, reads, and dash dances/spacing.
Now i'm playing Falco and I'm getting way better at punishing people for shielding.

I've been watching Mango play a lot recently. I think part of the reason he got so good was by playing puff. Puff's approach isn't very good, so Mango got hits by reading the opponent, punishing common mistakes, rolls, mind games, etc. This works because as Puff, all you need is one good read, then just punish with DownB and that's a stock.
Now he plays way better characters that can do so much more with his great overall smash knowledge. And he makes everyone he plays look like a scrub. Besides Armada of course.

So yeah, I think playing multiple characters can make your main even better. I also think by playing other characters, you get a better sense of how they work so when you play them, you know what to expect.

 

[standardtoaster]

Playing fox helped me increase my speed and commitment to attacks. Playing peach helped me with my spacing. I know it sounds really weird but it's true. I use marth now. haha

 

[ajp_anton]

It's somewhat similar to how speaking multiple languages increases your understanding of your main language. You find patterns, similarities, learn to think in different ways...

 

[choknater]

That is a great analogy

 

[LLDL]

I think I'm just going to ditto everyone that isn't a spacie main. That way I won't have to deal with feeling that my character is always at a disadvantage no matter what I do.

 

[choknater]

Not a bad idea if you really really understand the dynamics of the ditto

 

[Krynxe]

Ignoring the fact that you'll have to become proficient enough with essentially every character to have the skills to beat someone who mains that characters in dittos. :3

 

[TheCrimsonBlur]

This game is so weird.

You can literally not touch a character for a year+ and just get better with your main, and suddenly that ****ty secondary is a hundred times better. You'll have random *** Pikachu zero-to-deaths flowing off your fingertips without even trying lol.

 

[Bing]

Ignoring the fact that you'll have to become proficient enough with essentially every character to have the skills to beat someone who mains that characters in dittos. :3

This is my eventual goal, to use everyone character and actually have them tournament viable(So not ****)

 

[KrIsP!]

Change your name to red random, whoever you get as random you play but as red. This is what I did when the game came out. I sucked but no one needs to know that.

 

[choknater]

wait, you can do that?

 

[Bing]

Change your name to red random, whoever you get as random you play but as red. This is what I did when the game came out. I sucked but no one needs to know that.

Ill stick with my dittos thanks

 

[choknater]

Ignoring the fact that you'll have to become proficient enough with essentially every character to have the skills to beat someone who mains that characters in dittos. :3

something we can actually do since a lot of us have been playing for 10 yrs hehe.

 

[KidWithChemicals]

its funny, i was actually just thinking this exact thing to myself a few days ago.

alright so i main samus. link being one of my secondaries, would have to be the character that benefited her the most. examples... how to place projectiles to create good spacing/make an opening for a combo or kill move, sweet spotting the tether recovery, grabbing/vs upB'ing OOS.

then again, i probably wouldn't have a link to begin with if didn't play samus, but that's besides the point.

having a fox and falcon as well, helped with my overall speed and reaction time (tech chases/tech skills/and stuff)

Ryu's shoryuken helped me to become efficient with SHFFMC'ing.
^true story. no but really, moonwalking with falcon definitely helped me to gain control of swiveling the joystick to get those out.

samus taught me that a well placed ftilt every now and then can be quite viable lol... and waveland'ing for that speeeeeeed.

 

[Sixth-Sense]

It does help alot, i mean i main falco and falcon but the following caracters helped me in something for both:

Marth- helped me really get to know my character's attacks, like where does it hit the most or where it has more knockback and the over all length of all my attacks.
Fox- helped empahsize on the fact that you HAVE to practice technique or you won't live to see all four stocks gone.
Ganon- make the most out of any attack or grab, everything you do with him should have a purpose (and a d**n good one too).
Shiek- techase and immediate follow-ups.
Bowser- CANCEL EVERYTHING OR YOUR GONNA GET RAPPED

well yeah, although i still have tons of things to learn, but they helped me alot so far.

 

[t3h Icy]

Falcon taught me how to approach and not play like a ******.

But now Sheik is boring to play.



Yay Falcon!

 

[choknater]

i noticed that ganon players who begin to play falcon always go for some baller *** ****. they hardly use nairs, too. they just go for hard hits, bairs, stops, knees.

 

[LumpyCPU...]

using any character against your main can teach you a lot.

the moves/tactic you use, fear, abuse, take advantage of, and depend on, all add a great deal of perspective and grant you an overall better grasp on the game and how it works on an indepth level.

the reason most people don't benefit from this, is because they use alts or secondaries for fun or for a change of pace. they're not going into a match with secondaries expecting to gain much from it. mindset is everything.


(says the guy who doesn't play this game and didn't read this thread)

 

[Italis]

I used falco and it helped me with my approach as pikachu... weird huh?

 

[silentSWAG]

i play almost every character as if i mained them for this reason,
you learn about other problems that can be created for another player by abusing what characters are good at.

ganon has a good fair that baits
peach can use her fair in the same way

i played doc for a couple weeks straight and learned how to launch momentum from wavedashes to get mad distance.( also learned how to ledge tech real good)
> when i was playing falco vs my brothers fox he ****ed me up with full hop approaches.
i started thinking of solutions and experimented with sh bair. i finally came up with, waitng for him to full hop then> wd back to use the momentum to sh bair at the right timing, if fox double jumped away from my bair i would dj out of my sh and get him...

well any way that was a personal example of myself solving a problem using past knowledge from my doc.

 

[Bing]

THAT IS WHAT IM DOING BUT PEOPLE JUST TELL ME IM STUPID AND SHOULD ONLY PLAY FOX.

RAGEEEEEe

 

[S l o X]

Playing Falco helped me learn that Falcon is terrible.

Oh and how to work in situations where I can't dash dance.

 

[Bing]

I love warming up with Falcon for some reason, just because the sick Falcon-esc combos get my "pumped" to **** with some Fox.

Also I generally warm up a bit with Falco, then go Falcon and then Fox.

 

[leelue]

I played Fox and got better at everything

come at me

This is the best post on smashboards.


For me, playing other characters let me get a feel for their weaknesses. If tactic X is legitimately hard for me to beat, I'll be using tactic X when I play against this character.

 

[ZaXXoR]

****. Beat me to it.

This is true, Fox requires so much techskill and fast thinking that my everything got better

I started using Falco when I learned about WD and DD, I still find he's fast for me (im a scrub) Now I fiend Dr.Mario and G&W, I learned how to not use laggy moves with G&W thats for sure!

P.S Now actually related to your post Brad, I'm gonna practice with Fox so I can one day fly around platforms uber fast, lol I play an average player that thinks theyre good at smash and they full hop, do laggy moves, and just suck, it's funny how we think we're pro, then we see real pros and ur just like oh snap... thought I was pro