The hero of Dragon Quest III, Erdrick, joins the battle!

[Deleted member]

The only Pokémon rep I would really like to see in Smash right now is Gengar, since I have a friend who is a hardcore Pokémon fan and loves that Mon the most.

And Darkrai is already a Pokéball assist sadly.

 

[Deleted member]

The one thing I will say is that they were saying Steve in Smash this whole year thus far and only changed their position the day before Shinobi made his Banjo post. They claimed that Steve was leak bait and they think it would be Banjo instead. It's coincidental, and one of the reasons I've been trying to figure out their level of credibility.

Rookie mistake perhaps? But yeah, sounds suspicious. There was evidence for why you should expect Banjo before Shinobi's post (which was the Cable Guy figures).

I took a screenshot of his predictions on Erdrick and something after the tournaments in case he deletes it later. We'll see what happens because his guesses could just be piggybacking known info.

 

[NoOtherPersona]

Rookie mistake perhaps? But yeah, sounds suspicious. There was evidence for why you should expect Banjo before Shinobi's post (which was the Cable Guy figures).

I took a screenshot of his predictions on Erdrick and something after the tournaments in case he deletes it later. We'll see what happens because his guesses could just be piggybacking known info.

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All I know is imma have to hit him with a zoom to the forehead if he's just sputtering out nonsense

 

[ZenythSmash]

Aaaaaand I'm done!
Took a while but it's here.

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(Figured since it's been a while since I last drew by hand, I wasn't going to enjoy doing it, since well... I suck at it again, but I do like fiddling around with pixels, so here it is).

Hope you all like it!

HOLY MOLY i saw this some place else
i'm very impressed you manage to do things well for the spell menu and whistle as Erdrick's specials, really.
-the spell menu working similar to Shulk's Monado Arts wheel
-whistle being a balanced summoning function
-Erdrick re and un equipping his weapons for some attacks and the use of notable Sword skills
i do think Miracle Sword could be something else since the attack looks more "rewarding" than WFT's Deep Breath and Sun Salutation and Robin's Nosferatu
plus his aerial could be just Kaswoosh or Zoom than using Chimera Wing (unless you want it to be MP-free, i getcha!)
Whistle can also be SilverHarp (or Lyre of Ire) too since both have the same function (attracts monsters)

overall this is amazing! more better than whatever i could come up.

 

[NoOtherPersona]

Speaking of dragon quest ooof that's expensive

 

[Namasura]

I can't even find the DS remakes to buy in my country, its sad

 

[NoOtherPersona]

I can't even find the DS remakes to buy in my country, its sad

i have the uk versions of 4/5 and the American version of 6 there very hard too find but in case but if you lived out in cali you'd be able to find them easy i see them quite a bit at gamestops

 

[DarthEnderX]

I have my copies of 5, 6 and 9 for DS, and 7 for 3DS.

I didn't get 1-4 or 8 when they were rereleased cause I still have the NES versions and the PS2 version lying around.

 

[Deleted member]

The one thing I will say is that they were saying Steve in Smash this whole year thus far and only changed their position the day before Shinobi made his Banjo post. They claimed that Steve was leak bait and they think it would be Banjo instead. It's coincidental, and one of the reasons I've been trying to figure out their level of credibility.

I kind of agree, the perception of BK just turned into one that they seem inevitable but for some reason I just find it weird that Verge hasn't committed to 100% backing them up (99% is close though). Although to be fair, Vergeben never backed Steve but rather MC content. At least it will be interesting to see what happens.

 

[Teeb147]

Hey! How's everyone doing? Interested to see the tourney? I am. Maybe we should get a schedule up for the times of it.

I'm not sure if I'm already on the supporters list, but if not can I be added please?

Dont worry you've been on the list, you were one of the early 30. I also added Adol Christin and the others

Here's the supporter list. You can search for your name, just do ctrl+F and then type your name (once you have the list open), that's an easy way to find your name.

Spoiler: Supporters List

0. @GM_3826
1. Arcadenik
2. DarthEnderX
3. SEGAGameBoy
4. shinhed-echi
5. Idon
6. Juliussarus
7. Apollo500
8. Calane
9. Golden Icarus
10. SIAD
11. Lunacial
12. Oblivion
13. TheYungLink
14. Eldrake
15. Sari
16. @Blackmage Kuja
17. verysleeywolf
18. Minik
19. [Maple]
20. Gran-Rojo
21. toonito
22. praline
23. KoopaSaki
24. AustarusIV
25. liquidmetalslime
26. Gum-Gum Smash
27. Kuon
28. Aurora Jenny
29. PolarPanda
30. DaybreakHorizon

31. Teeb147
32. @Overtaken
33. @Bolderousness
34. @Shado-will
35. @Rumble Red
36. @-Coco-
37. @Cruelcumber
38. @KirbyWorshipper2465
39. @SneakyLink
40. @Yatanagi
41. @Zeke The Zekenator
42. @NomadLuminary
43. @OpticalBlast
44. @helloiamhere
45. @JDCabrera
46. @MajoraMan28
47. @OnyanRings
48. @Takasmash
49. @Ornl
50. @Jovahexeon Joranvexeon
51. @TriforceBun
52. NoOtherPersona
53. @Flyboy
54. @Pennate
55. @psb123
56. @Connorb0t2
57. @Voe
58. @Dannio
59. @Zuppo
60. @Saer2k
61. @EricTheGamerman
62. Namasura
63. perfectchaos83
64. @Mikegamer0608
65. @Akira_Joker
66. @Wunderwaft
67. @Isaac: Venus Adept
68. @Naoyatodo
69. @Smashing Ramen
70. @ShotoStar
71. @AugustusB
72. Plato Xaiver
73. @MrBaconJam
74. @ChaosSharpedo
75. @Simplythe1
76. Adol Christin
77. @cool mario bros
78. @TheMarioaddict

 

[praline]

What if instead of just Erdrick we got like a Bowser Jr incident with like DQ1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 and 11 as the 8 alts?

 

[Teeb147]

What if instead of just Erdrick we got like a Bowser Jr incident with like DQ1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 and 11 as the 8 alts?

Ya we've been talking about that and listing which hero we think could possibly make it a few pages back

Also, here's the schedule for today:
https://e3.nintendo.com/


Super Mario Maker 2 Invitational 2019
11:00 a.m. PT | 2:00 p.m. ET*

Splatoon 2 World Championship 2019
11:30 a.m. PT | 2:30 p.m. ET*

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate World Championship 2019 3v3
2:00 p.m. PT | 5:00 p.m. ET*


Sakurai tweeted about the tournament and said he'd get up early to watch it, I dont know if there'll be any announcements, but it could be cool.

 

[Deleted member]

What if instead of just Erdrick we got like a Bowser Jr incident with like DQ1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 and 11 as the 8 alts?

I would be the happiest man in the world if Eight got in Smash.

 

[praline]

Ya we've been talking about that and listing which hero we think could make it a few pages back

Also, here's the schedule for today:
https://e3.nintendo.com/


Super Mario Maker 2 Invitational 2019
11:00 a.m. PT | 2:00 p.m. ET*

Splatoon 2 World Championship 2019
11:30 a.m. PT | 2:30 p.m. ET*

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate World Championship 2019 3v3
2:00 p.m. PT | 5:00 p.m. ET*


Sakurai tweeted about the tournament and said he'd get up early to watch it, I dont know if there'll be any announcements, but it should be cool.

Oh my bad. Well... I’m sure it would be the ones I picked. Since the hero of 2 can’t use magic, the hero of 7 is a child and dragon quest 10 is an mmo.

 

[zferolie]

No offense to leakers and whatnot, but other then Brave and the leakers, what does Erdrick have proving he is in? I want a DQ rep, and think it is worthy of smash, but I would prefer slime.

I don't understand why Nintendo would name a code what a character is named in Japan. Jack to Joker makes sense, we know him already. Plus those floaty jumps tied to Brave doesn't seem to fit Erdrick. I am thinking the code names just have the first letter tied to the character. Jack-> Joker, Brave-> Banjo.

Again, don't get me wrong, I am not bashing Erdrick, I just don't get how everyone is so sure of him. Banjo has more in game proof then Erdrick does(Rare Spirits found in the code)

 

[Teeb147]

Oh my bad. Well... I’m sure it would be the ones I picked. Since the hero of 2 can’t use magic, the hero of 7 is a child and dragon quest 10 is an mmo.

We also semi ruled out 5 because he's not like the others and also can't use zap. Anlucia from 10 is a hero and has been a fave in japan, showing up in different games, so she wouldnt be out of the running. Oh and also the 9's heroes is known as short too, so im not sure what the chances there would be.

And since there's gender alts for 3 and 4, that could take up 4 slots there.

 

[Deleted member]

No offense to leakers and whatnot, but other then Brave and the leakers, what does Erdrick have proving he is in? I want a DQ rep, and think it is worthy of smash, but I would prefer slime.

I don't understand why Nintendo would name a code what a character is named in Japan. Jack to Joker makes sense, we know him already. Plus those floaty jumps tied to Brave doesn't seem to fit Erdrick. I am thinking the code names just have the first letter tied to the character. Jack-> Joker, Brave-> Banjo.

Again, don't get me wrong, I am not bashing Erdrick, I just don't get how everyone is so sure of him. Banjo has more in game proof then Erdrick does(Rare Spirits found in the code)

We see a DQ rep likely due to the strong presence of the series on Switch, Square’s interest to boost the franchise’s popularity in Japan, the current dynamic between Nintendo and Square and the tendency of dual reveals at E3.

 

[Polan]

No offense to leakers and whatnot, but other then Brave and the leakers, what does Erdrick have proving he is in? I want a DQ rep, and think it is worthy of smash, but I would prefer slime.

I don't understand why Nintendo would name a code what a character is named in Japan. Jack to Joker makes sense, we know him already. Plus those floaty jumps tied to Brave doesn't seem to fit Erdrick. I am thinking the code names just have the first letter tied to the character. Jack-> Joker, Brave-> Banjo.

Again, don't get me wrong, I am not bashing Erdrick, I just don't get how everyone is so sure of him. Banjo has more in game proof then Erdrick does(Rare Spirits found in the code)

the rare spirits are valid evidence for banjo but brave isn't valid evidence for erdrick. okay then.

 

[zferolie]

We see a DQ rep likely due to the strong presence of the series on Switch, Square’s interest to boost the franchise’s popularity in Japan, the current dynamic between Nintendo and Square and the tendency of dual reveals at E3.

I mean yeah, I expect a DQ rep as a likely chance, but I think Slime would be a btter pick, as it has more world wide reconition then Erdrick. Its the face of the series, and even non DQ players know Slime

the rare spirits are valid evidence for banjo but brave isn't valid evidence for erdrick. okay then.

I'm not saying its not valid proof, but it seems way too on the nose for a code name. Its Litterally his japanese name, or tied to him

 

[Kuon]

No offense to leakers and whatnot, but other then Brave and the leakers, what does Erdrick have proving he is in? I want a DQ rep, and think it is worthy of smash, but I would prefer slime.

I don't understand why Nintendo would name a code what a character is named in Japan. Jack to Joker makes sense, we know him already. Plus those floaty jumps tied to Brave doesn't seem to fit Erdrick. I am thinking the code names just have the first letter tied to the character. Jack-> Joker, Brave-> Banjo.

Again, don't get me wrong, I am not bashing Erdrick, I just don't get how everyone is so sure of him. Banjo has more in game proof then Erdrick does(Rare Spirits found in the code)

We really don't have much of anything else to go on besides Brave and leaks. I think we're just being hopeful for Erdrick.

We see a DQ rep likely due to the strong presence of the series on Switch, Square’s interest to boost the franchise’s popularity in Japan, the current dynamic between Nintendo and Square and the tendency of dual reveals at E3.

But the same could apply for Slime. Granted I would much rather have Erdrick and I think Nintendo would rather choose a human character for DLC over a monster character, but that's just me

 

[Deleted member]

I mean yeah, I expect a DQ rep as a likely chance, but I think Slime would be a btter pick, as it has more world wide reconition then Erdrick. Its the face of the series, and even non DQ players know Slime

It’s fine to prefer Slime as long as there’s respect, tbh.

Our problem mostly comes with the people who bash people for wanting Erdrick, but you thankfully aren’t one of them so far.

 

[zferolie]

It’s fine to prefer Slime as long as there’s respect, tbh.

Our problem mostly comes with the people who bash people for wanting Erdrick, but you thankfully aren’t one of them so far.

Don't worry, I'm not bashing at all. Only character I bash at all is Sans(never got into that game...) and even then its only half serious. People can want who they want. I get a ton of crap wanting Shantae and Reimu...

It just seems so strange how every video and person seems to say Erdrick is 100% happening, when I just don't feel that. High chance yes but 100% for sure? Mostly due to leakers and Brave? Don't we all remember starfox racing, and Armor forms for Pokemon S+S? I feel there still could be the chance of leak baits out there for smash, like all those people saying Steve

 

[perfectchaos83]

I don't understand why Nintendo would name a code what a character is named in Japan.

Because the JP name for the class is 'Yuusha' brave is the literal translation being used in the west for speculation purposes

Plus those floaty jumps tied to Brave doesn't seem to fit Erdrick.

Stats don't mean anything. Joker and the Plant have stats that are very different from their original datamined Stats, including Joker's height.

Banjo has more in game proof then Erdrick does(Rare Spirits found in the code)

And there's a perfectly logical explanation to that, Nintendo owns the Trademark to those titles in Japan, same reason there's a Devil's Third Placeholder for spirits.

 

[Kuon]

What if instead of just Erdrick we got like a Bowser Jr incident with like DQ1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 and 11 as the 8 alts?

I personally wouldn't want that, simplay because I want the female alt for Erdrick. The main reason I'm rooting for Erdrick is for the female alt. Not to say I don't care about male Erdrick, but I tend to play as females in my games, and like female Erdrick much more than male. But if they included female Erdrick with all the other heroes then I'd be all for it. Like, if they had DQ hero 1, 3 male and female, 4 male and female, 5, 8, 11 or something like that then I'd be happy with that

 

[zferolie]

Because the JP name for the class is 'Yuusha' brave is the literal translation being used in the west for speculation purposes



Stats don't mean anything. Joker and the Plant have stats that are very different from their original datamined Stats, including Joker's height.



And there's a perfectly logical explanation to that, Nintendo owns the Trademark to those titles in Japan, same reason there's a Devil's Third Placeholder for spirits.

I did not know they changed the stats post release. As for owning the tradmarks, that seems so weird. Why would Rare lose those tradmarks in japan but still own the rights overall? Copyright is strange.

I personally wouldn't want that, simplay because I want the female alt for Erdrick. The main reason I'm rooting for Erdrick is for the female alt. Not to say I don't care about male Erdrick, but I tend to play as females in my games, and like female Erdrick much more than male. But if they included female Erdrick with all the other heroes then I'd be all for it. Like, if they had DQ hero 1, 3 male and female, 4 male and female, 5, 8, 11 or something like that then I'd be happy with that

I am always for more female characters, and think if erdrick is it they should have one. Hopefully they get an amiibo form too... unlike Robin(why only the male amiibo still nintendo?!)

 

[Teeb147]

Because the JP name for the class is 'Yuusha' brave is the literal translation being used in the west for speculation purposes



Stats don't mean anything. Joker and the Plant have stats that are very different from their original datamined Stats, including Joker's height.



And there's a perfectly logical explanation to that, Nintendo owns the Trademark to those titles in Japan, same reason there's a Devil's Third Placeholder for spirits.

Brave isn't even supposed to be used anywhere. It's a mistranslation that wouldn't usually happen to anyone who knows english.

Bravery is Yuuki in japanese. Yuusha really is different, and putting Yuusha as 'brave' is weird, since brave isn't a noun. (But we know it isn't the first time it's been used that way.)

 

[Polan]

I'm not saying its not valid proof, but it seems way too on the nose for a code name. Its Litterally his japanese name, or tied to him

its too obvious thanks to vergeben. otherwise, brave is a pretty good codename. short, simple, easy to work with and vague enough to throw people off.

 

[perfectchaos83]

I did not know they changed the stats post release. As for owning the tradmarks, that seems so weird. Why would Rare lose those tradmarks in japan but still own the rights overall? Copyright is strange.

Trademarks are different than copyrights. A trademark basically gives you and people you allow to sell something using that trademark. It's why Dragon Quest had to be renamed to Dragon Warrior originally due to Dragon Quest already being trademarked by someone else in the west. Those particular games also had to have different titles in JP's release of Rare Replay.

I personally wouldn't want that, simplay because I want the female alt for Erdrick. The main reason I'm rooting for Erdrick is for the female alt. Not to say I don't care about male Erdrick, but I tend to play as females in my games, and like female Erdrick much more than male. But if they included female Erdrick with all the other heroes then I'd be all for it. Like, if they had DQ hero 1, 3 male and female, 4 male and female, 5, 8, 11 or something like that then I'd be happy with that

I think that Female Erdrick is happening regardless. It's a big part of DQ3

Brave isn't even supposed to be used anywhere. It's a mistranslation that wouldn't usually happen to anyone who knows english.

Bravery is Yuuki in japanese. So putting Yuusha as 'brave' is weird, since brave isn't a noun. (But we know it isn't the first time it's been used that way.)

Brave can be a noun, the Star Spangled Banner is an example of that in English. It's just rare as all ****.

 

[Deleted member]

Ya we've been talking about that and listing which hero we think could possibly make it a few pages back

Also, here's the schedule for today:
https://e3.nintendo.com/


Super Mario Maker 2 Invitational 2019
11:00 a.m. PT | 2:00 p.m. ET*

Splatoon 2 World Championship 2019
11:30 a.m. PT | 2:30 p.m. ET*

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate World Championship 2019 3v3
2:00 p.m. PT | 5:00 p.m. ET*


Sakurai tweeted about the tournament and said he'd get up early to watch it, I dont know if there'll be any announcements, but it could be cool.

Nice. Smash tournament fits in with my schedule. I can watch that.

 

[Teeb147]

Trademarks are different than copyrights. A trademark basically gives you and people you allow to sell something using that trademark. It's why Dragon Quest had to be renamed to Dragon Warrior originally due to Dragon Quest already being trademarked by someone else in the west. Those particular games also had to have different titles in JP's release of Rare Replay.



I think that Female Erdrick is happening regardless. It's a big part of DQ3



Brave can be a noun, the Star Spangled Banner is an example of that in English. It's just rare as all ****.

Oh like home of the brave. you're right. I dont see it used like that often.

 

[Plato Xaiver]

I think I'm one of the few people who wouldn't want a Slime as a DQ rep :^)
Mascot over the main character seems weird to me.

 

[Deleted member]

I think I'm one of the few people who wouldn't want a Slime as a DQ rep :^)
Mascot over the main character seems weird to me.

No I'm down. The only one that made sense to me was Pikachu because of the iconic anime back in the day (that and Pokeballs were a genius workaround). Otherwise, Pokemon Trainer was long overdue.

 

[Teeb147]

I think I'm one of the few people who wouldn't want a Slime as a DQ rep :^)
Mascot over the main character seems weird to me.

From what I've seen most dragon quest fans would rather have a hero (not all tho, of course). It would also be good for showing off some stuff about the main series that a slime couldn't. imo.

 

[Kuon]

I think I'm one of the few people who wouldn't want a Slime as a DQ rep :^)
Mascot over the main character seems weird to me.

There are plenty of people like you, including myself. Slime just doesn't fit the criteria for DLC. I mean, look at all the past DLC characters aside from PP: they're all human or humanoid characters. Sakurai and Nintendo would go with a human DQ characters over an enemy, even if the enemy is more recognizable

 

[Deleted member]

There are plenty of people like you, including myself. Slime just doesn't fit the criteria for DLC. I mean, look at all the past DLC characters aside from PP: they're all human or humanoid characters. Sakurai and Nintendo would go with a human DQ characters over an enemy, even if the enemy is more recognizable

Imagine a world where we got a Moogle instead of Cloud.

 

[Teeb147]

Imagine a world where we got a Moogle instead of Cloud.

That's what I was hoping for at first

I changed to wanting Terra after Cloud got in. A moogle would still be cool tho, but .. there's lots of great characters.

 

[Kuon]

Imagine a world where we got a Moogle instead of Cloud.

That would be so weird and confusing to everyone (aside from the Moogle supporters, which are probably out there). I feel like a lot of people who would prefer Slime do so because they know Slime and don't really know the DQ heroes. Not all, of course, but I bet most of them do. They only know DQ because of Slime, so that's why they'd go with Slime. That's my guess. Could be wrong though

 

[Plato Xaiver]

No I'm down. The only one that made sense to me was Pikachu because of the iconic anime back in the day (that and Pokeballs were a genius workaround). Otherwise, Pokemon Trainer was long overdue.

I mean Pikachu is the main character of Pokemon, Smash draws some inspiration from the Pokemon anime and the Pokemon anime takes some things from Smash (Like Greninjas water blades)

The amount of Pokemon Episodes that do not include Pikachu can almost be counted on your fingers.
Pokemon Trainer however, yeah that was long overdue.

From what I've seen most dragon quest fans would rather have a hero (not all tho, of course). It would also be good for showing off some stuff about the main series that a slime couldn't. imo.

The amount of people i've seen that say "Real Dragon Quest fans want Slime, not Erdrick" as an argument is immense, and Im sure these people have never played a DQ game in their life.

There are plenty of people like you, including myself. Slime just doesn't fit the criteria for DLC. I mean, look at all the past DLC characters aside from PP: they're all human or humanoid characters. Sakurai and Nintendo would go with a human DQ characters over an enemy, even if the enemy is more recognizable

I like Slimes and all, but imagine paying $5 for a blue ball :^)
If I didn't get PPlant for free, I most likely would not have bought him. (Despite buying the fighters pass....)

 

[Deleted member]

That would be so weird and confusing to everyone (aside from the Moogle supporters, which are probably out there). I feel like a lot of people who would prefer Slime do so because they know Slime and don't really know the DQ heroes. Not all, of course, but I bet most of them do. They only know DQ because of Slime, so that's why they'd go with Slime. That's my guess. Could be wrong though

My brother is a bigger fan of the series than me, and he wants Slime on the basis of him being more visually unique and charming. It depends on the person.

But for a person who doesn't know the series other than the Slime, I can see this.

 

[Teeb147]

I mean Pikachu is the main character of Pokemon, Smash draws some inspiration from the Pokemon anime and the Pokemon anime takes some things from Smash (Like Greninjas water blades)

The amount of Pokemon Episodes that do not include Pikachu can almost be counted on your fingers.
Pokemon Trainer however, yeah that was long overdue.


The amount of people i've seen that say "Real Dragon Quest fans want Slime, not Erdrick" as an argument is immense, and Im sure these people have never played a DQ game in their life.


I like Slimes and all, but imagine paying $5 for a blue ball :^)
If I didn't get PPlant for free, I most likely would not have bought him. (Despite buying the fighters pass....)

I've seen more that aren't dragon quest fans say it, but definitely a few that are have said slime. Most of those though have only played a bit.
I think once you go on a long journey with a hero, it's a lot easier to feel attached to them instead of a slime. Especially since in the main games slimes can't do much by themselves.