The Heavenly Scriptures:A Pit Q&A thread!

[Luckay4Lyphe]

Any fast move that does over 12% is great. An empty short hop on someone falling to the ground will make them airdodge thinking you want to uair them, but you go back to the ground and usmash them back in the air. People who will mainly do this are Snake and DDD since they want utilt kills and many other characters will do it simply out of fear. The oos shield part is also a good point by maharba, it will punish Lucario and peach dair as well as many other approaches because there is no shield drop lag so it will even pick people up from off the ground like Marth's usmash.

 

[Abel1994]

Why does it seem like the pit board are the 2nd most non dead board?

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

You could just say active instead of non dead. Read a book would you? And why don't you go troll other boards about how they aren't active

 

[Abel1994]

No uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!

 

[Esca]

I only use usmash against fattys.

 

[CHOMPY]

What moves should I use out of shield against a Metaknight that Dair camps?

 

[Kuro~]

What moves should I use out of shield against a Metaknight that Dair camps?

Depends on the positioning

are they on your jock dair camping or time-out spacing dair camping?

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

You should roll away and arrow him

 

[Esca]

you should roll away and arrow him

thank you so much.

 

[Abel1994]

thank you so much.

No, thank you.

 

[Kuro~]

Not if he's on your *** you shouldnt. That's way too easy to punish if he's spacing dairs on shield etc. Only time to stay back and arrow is if he's in what i call "timeout mode" dair camping where it's just used as a deterrant, time waster, and wall. If he's on you use JCupsmash or dair OoS. Usmash would be better.

 

[Abel1994]

Comon guys im bored of talking abotu pit Somone chat about somthing else like Pokemon or somthing

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

How can he punish a backwards roll when he's dair camping?

 

[Kuro~]

If he's on your *** he can easily mindgame you into a grab cuz your options after a broll (lol sounds funny) are limited. That and could always just nado and considering your shield will be not full health cuz he was on you then it's gonna hit more than likely.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

more like you should roll away, then run to the ledge. and shoot arrows. then when he gets close glide under the stage 3/4 of the way, see where he is at, and then decide if you are gonna keep going to the other side or cancell it and WOI back the other way. seriously all i do against MK is hit and circle the stage run away.

 

[fUddO]

Utilt > Usmash in almost every situation except hyphen smashing, imo.

 

[Kuro~]

Utilt > Usmash in almost every situation except hyphen smashing, imo.

Utitl OoS is 9 frames if you add shield drop frames and that's only for the low to ground hit box. JCupsmash OoS is 6 frames and has horizontal and vertical hitboxes and has more if not = range and is disjointed and has more knockback for better escape.

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

If he's on your *** he can easily mindgame you into a grab cuz your options after a broll (lol sounds funny) are limited. That and could always just nado and considering your shield will be not full health cuz he was on you then it's gonna hit more than likely.

I don't get the positioning of "on your ***" if he is in the air there is no way he can get at you when you roll away on the ground. He could nado, but we can still shield when it gets close.

 

[Kuro~]

I don't get the positioning of "on your ***" if he is in the air there is no way he can get at you when you roll away on the ground. He could nado, but we can still shield when it gets close.

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That's a rough positioning. Im saying if he's close enough to where you either can dair,fair or upsmash, or slightly out of that range and dair camping then to roll away isnt really all that safe. If anything it'd be best to walk/run away.

However if he's treating you like snake/wario and attacking the air get out of theere and ****ign spam arrows cuz he's a dumb ***.

 

[fUddO]

Utitl OoS is 9 frames if you add shield drop frames and that's only for the low to ground hit box. JCupsmash OoS is 6 frames and has horizontal and vertical hitboxes and has more if not = range and is disjointed and has more knockback for better escape.

Right, forgot about OoS.

 

[Esca]

Utilt > Usmash in almost every situation except hyphen smashing, imo.

You can slide with usmash and utilt isnt good for upward punishing. I use utilt because it's ****ing fast on the ground only. Usmash is definately useful.

 

[Kuro~]

You can slide with usmash and utilt isnt good for upward punishing. I use utilt because it's ****ing fast on the ground only. Usmash is definately useful.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[Pitzer]

Up-smash racks more damage. Uptilt is only used for shield stabbing and Bait spot dodges.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

i use it to cancel with stuff a lot like wario's fsmash because it's fast or when people get close because as we all know frame 2 owns

 

[fUddO]

Sliding = Hyphen smashing. I know that Usmash has it's uses, but it also is super risky since it's so easy to DI out of.

 

[Pitzer]

Pretty sure Hyphen was a reverse Up-smash?

 

[Abel1994]

I love u all!

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

no hes right. sliding usmash is hyphen smash. it's harder to punish DI or not if your sliding with it fuddo. practically impossible to punish if you 3rd step or 2sjcus it.

 

[fUddO]

Ah, ok. Can you JC Hyphen Smash?

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

I don't see why not, it wouldn't really make a difference though lol.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

uhhh....... 2nd step JUMP cancelled up smash. lol if you couldn't jump cancell usmash while you dashed this technique wouldn't exist lol

 

[Supreme Dirt]

What moves should I use out of shield against a Metaknight that Dair camps?

Up-B OoS

Also yes you can JC USmash. If you want to have slightly less momentum for whatever reason.

 

[fUddO]

uhhh....... 2nd step JUMP cancelled up smash. lol if you couldn't jump cancell usmash while you dashed this technique wouldn't exist lol

I was thinking more along the lines of OoS...but that's stupid, now that I think about it, since you can't dash OoS.

 

[Kuro~]

Hey guys, who do you think teams better with pit? Snake or mk?

What should the mk's role be?
The snakes?

And can someone link me to some mk+pit teams that are good that i can watch?

 

[Zulo]

I'unno if this is a Pit-specific question but yeh. I was trying to do a reverse stutter step fsmash, and ended up doing an ftilt after the step. Is this legit, and is there an easy way to do it? I can't seem to recreate it reliably, usually gives me a dash attack when I try.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

here you go zulo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4tmLsflA_c

 

[Zulo]

Ah, cool, thanks. Now I can try to do it on purpose lawl.

 

[dualseeker]

I've been meaning to ask this question for a while, since I think it can help me with my game.

How do you Glide Toss ^^;? I literally have no idea how to do a Glide Toss, so if anyone can tell me I would really appreciate it ^__^.

 

[Xcallion]

Roll and throw an item(c-stick throw works best) at the same time. it takes about 10-15 minutes of practice to learn.

 

[Abel1994]

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