The Heavenly Scriptures:A Pit Q&A thread!

[stantheyeti]

I feel it is necessary to have tap jump off with pit mostly because of arrows, anybody else agree, and do you think that it is necessary for any other characters?

 

[dualseeker]

I play with Tap Jump off so that Pit won't jump while he's Arrow Looping for me. Although, other people my have it on. I like to have it off, though, since I feel like I can multitask much better than with it on.

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

What an interesting choice of pros lol. Anther still plays wifi in the pika xat sometimes. He might be coming back in the summer, but he won't be esam level for a while if he does.

 

[Esca]

The top 10 players in the nation play with standard controls.

 

[Kuro~]

The top 10 players in the nation play with standard controls.

Esca, teach me how to play super safe with pit i want to be THAT guy holding up the pools

 

[ccst]

+1 in our favor

We out camp, we can juggle better, have slightly better follow ups. I would say ROB's best kill move is predictable as well as his projectiles. ROB is pretty scary offstage and could get a bair or an usmash kill with a proper read. Only thing he has on us is range with his tilts which can be annoying at times, but I still think we have the advantage. His recovery is better, but we can drain it all away if we're accurate enough with arrows.

Thank you Luckay4Lyphe and company. =P
I agree with you that it's R.O.B.'s disadvantage; probably 45:55 if you ask me.

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

And company....

 

[ccst]

LoL, no but really agreeing with that ratio I gave you? Also what are "WOI" and "DACG"?

 

[Gadiel_VaStar]

The top 10 players in the nation play with standard controls.

Who are the top 10 players in the nation? & yeah teach me how to play super safe too!

 

[dualseeker]

LoL, no but really agreeing with that ratio I gave you? Also what are "WOI" and "DACG"?

WOI is the name for our Up B, which is called Wings of Icarus. And I'm guessing that DACG means Dash Attack Chain Grab, or Dash Attack Cancel Grab, one of those two, maybe ^^;.

 

[Xcallion]

Dash attack cancel grab

 

[ccst]

Okay thanks. =)

 

[Abel1994]

So anything new happen while I was on vaction?

 

[Gadiel_VaStar]

WOI is the name for our Up B, which is called Wings of Icarus. And I'm guessing that DACG means Dash Attack Chain Grab, or Dash Attack Cancel Grab, one of those two, maybe ^^;.

Dash attack cancel grab

How do you do this properly? I feel like I know it, but I perform it wrong. What are the controls again?

 

[Kuro~]

How do you do this properly? I feel like I know it, but I perform it wrong. What are the controls again?

It's in Maha's cg thread.

 

[Flutter NiTE]

How important is arrow looping? Is it something that is worth getting down? or just fancy?

 

[Zulo]

Depends who you ask. It's almost never done in higher-level play anymore, but theoretically it has some uses. It's definitely worth learning though, for those few times. And who doesn't like being fancy?

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

don't even say it's not done in higher level play. i've shown esca some stuff and when tesh uploads my vids you will see that, while not done frequently during a match (sometimes never), it is an important part of pit's metagame. it sets up kills, it makes places where the opponent cannot go, it can get the suprise near blast zone KO, and most important of all, it sets up or just gimps people at angles where a normal shot arrow cannot hit. if you don't have perfect/near perfect arrow control you cannot possibly say that it is unimportant in higher level play.

so is it drastically imprtant? no of course not. no AT with ANY character is 100% neccessary (the only exception is ICs, without grabs they are garbage). people can win on basics alone, but ATs open up more options during specific situations that can lead to an incredibly advantageous result (especially looped arrows) simply because you have that many more options.

so in other words, like zulo said, depends on who you ask

 

[fUddO]

Arrow looping itself isn't really that useful. That being said, you should be aiming to have perfect control over your arrows anyways.

 

[Xcallion]

i find that arrow looping is excellent for mindgames. if you loop a few times in a match you can condition your opponent to expect the loop when you curve your arrow straight up. this can lead to all sorts of tricks even if you never even hit them with an arrow. make them nervous whenever you loop an arrow. nervous people are easy to read and punish.

 

[Kuro~]

don't even say it's not done in higher level play. i've shown esca some stuff and when tesh uploads my vids you will see that, while not done frequently during a match (sometimes never), it is an important part of pit's metagame. it sets up kills, it makes places where the opponent cannot go, it can get the suprise near blast zone KO, and most important of all, it sets up or just gimps people at angles where a normal shot arrow cannot hit. if you don't have perfect/near perfect arrow control you cannot possibly say that it is unimportant in higher level play.

so is it drastically imprtant? no of course not. no AT with ANY character is 100% neccessary (the only exception is ICs, without grabs they are garbage). people can win on basics alone, but ATs open up more options during specific situations that can lead to an incredibly advantageous result (especially looped arrows) simply because you have that many more options.

so in other words, like zulo said, depends on who you ask

^^^^^^^^ I rarely use it in tourneys as more often than not a unique curve will cover the loops trajectory. However, looping has it's advantages is some matchups. You should never use looping till you KNOW it's gonna go where you envision it going. At the very least, 70% of the time.

 

[Abel1994]

Arrow looping da bess.

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

Just don't do it when someone is in your face about to hit you while you're thinking about the arrow.

 

[Abel1994]

but but what if their not in your face and r in your arrow face?

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

they're*

10abelgrammarsucks

 

[Abel1994]

NO U

10buttsex

 

[Flutter NiTE]

...Pit community is weird, lol

 

[Abel1994]

Arnt you the guy on my hack thing in brawl code o-o

 

[Flutter NiTE]

Gotta be a wee bit more specific... Am I the guy on your hack thing in a code?

 

[Abel1994]

nvm it was phantomwing.

or spomthing o-o


UMAD CUZ U BLACK PIKACHU!

 

[Flutter NiTE]

Super Smash Bros. Crusade??? Yeah, I was one of the original beta testers, back in 0.0.1. My name was TheOriginalSmasher WAAYYY back

 

[Abel1994]

Why thou show up thee pit boards?

 

[Flutter NiTE]

I second Pit, and I was just wondering how much it was used in competitive play.

 

[Abel1994]

Pit is not and it.

 

[fUddO]

There are probably about 20 Pit mains in US/Can. At most.

 

[Abel1994]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDO da bess :D

 

[Xcallion]

I dont use U-smash much, if at all. i dont see any uses for it, really. I would love for someone to show me that i'm horribly wrong here by telling me what good situations to use it in are.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

ummm.... xcallion u be trollin? a frame 6 smash that is multi hit with 2sjcus and and can be done out of shield that reaches through the platforms at BF that has a suck in box and a spike box on the first hit (albeit the spike is near impossible to get on the ledge but on stage it's great) and sets up juggles and you are telling me that you don't think it's useful?

i <3 usmash

 

[Xcallion]

thanks, maharba. i've seen teh light!
*runs off to spam u-smash while yelling incoherently in a high pitched voice*

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

WAAAAAAAAIT!.................. don't spam it, time it