The Heavenly Scriptures:A Pit Q&A thread!

[321BOOM]

What is Pit's quickest aerial?

If you're looking for the quickest to DI with, use dair. It ends faster.

 

[LaIotun]

If you're looking for the quickest to DI with, use dair. It ends faster.

Yeah that, thanks.

 

[nightmar3]

who does pit have an advantage over?

 

[Roxas1988]

who does pit have an advantage over?

they have a match up chart for this you can refer to that.

 

[321BOOM]

Eh, didn't see a frame data thread down there..

here you goooo:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=243314

its still incomplete though :<

 

[LaIotun]

here you goooo:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=243314

its still incomplete though :<

Yeah man, meant i didn't see it til now

 

[321BOOM]

ohh, hahah.

pretty helpful to roam through the threads >.<
theres like 70% chance of useful info

 

[Roxas1988]

Is it true that the d-air actually has a situation where it spikes?

 

[Player_2]

Generally when i use it it sends them up not down so Ive never seen that, though one time i got spiked by a snake through my d-air but killed him by sending him up

 

[Afropony]

Is it true that the d-air actually has a situation where it spikes?

I have never seen anyone Dair spike so I don't think it's possible.

 

[Cherry64]

not that I have seen no. that's three people telling you otherwise so I doubt it. only was is below a stage for a stage spike unless they tech it, then just do it again rofl.
GGs Tronk.

oh eff! I jsut stage spiked a zelda at like 35% with the last hit of Nair. that was BA

 

[Admiral Pit]

D-air does not spike. If it send an opponent downward, then it would be because of bad DI.

 

[Cherry64]

D-air does not spike. If it send an opponent downward, then it would be because of bad DI.

there isnt' anyway it can. like even with bad DI I think the worst it gets is sideways. and that's like the terribad DI.

 

[Afropony]

I 've seen moves that have been DI'ed into the ground.

look at this vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN-StagMYqo

at about 1:20 you see Pit's Dair being Di'ed kinda down and then after that you see Pit's Fair spike (I think that was Admiral doing that).

 

[Cherry64]

that vids aud was Messed up, i'll watch it when i'm in a better mood and can handle that garbage lol

 

[Phaigne]

Actually, I think that might have been Sagemoon.

edit: It was Sage, but he was actually the D3, the Pit was Sage's brother.

 

[Admiral Pit]

That blue Pit belonged to Sagemoon.

 

[321BOOM]

this all sounds interesting,
but why DI down in the first place?

 

[Roxas1988]

Wow i finally found the situation where the d-air actually spikes. It can actually stage spike if the character that gets hit with it has enough damage and Di's toward the stage. Way too situational though.

 

[Afropony]

this all sounds interesting,
but why DI down in the first place?

Because they may be trying to do a move that needs them to press down.
In a part of that video i found you could see that there was a marth who was knocked sideways and when they go off the edge they used Dair.

 

[Ghnaschnakoff]

My friend recently has gotten good with DK and keeps cargo spiking me and he says there is a way around it but he won't tell me. >< Anyone kind enough to tell me or link me somewhere it does??

 

[Roxas1988]

My friend recently has gotten good with DK and keeps cargo spiking me and he says there is a way around it but he won't tell me. >< Anyone kind enough to tell me or link me somewhere it does??

you just have to tech it and get the timing down. Hit L or R as soon as your about to hit the stage.

 

[Ghnaschnakoff]

Lol I didn't think it would be that simple. Thanks
Also, is it a good desicion to have Pit as a main and have Diddy to fall back on for ****ty matchups like MK and GnW?

 

[Roxas1988]

Lol I didn't think it would be that simple. Thanks
Also, is it a good desicion to have Pit as a main and have Diddy to fall back on for ****ty matchups like MK and GnW?

He does sound like a viable back-up for those match-ups. As for G&W, ugh so effin annoying because of his broken b-air. Just watch out for that and the all-ko'ing up smash. But diddy should be good against MK.

 

[Cherry64]

roxas didn't tell you the best way to get out of it. Hold UP on the control stick, should pop you out of his cargo hold pretty quickly. apparently it works better than mashing buttons.

yes diddy would be a very viable secondary, he'll he'd be a wicked first if you can use him right

 

[saviorslegacy]

Hey, I main Sheik ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU-8wFdhSkA ).
Anyways... I want your opinion on the following match ups:
G&W and Olimar

Pit takes care of my other bad match ups. Those two aren't listed though.
Besides, I prefer Pit since I mained him once.

 

[321BOOM]

As for G&W, ugh so effin annoying because of his broken b-air. Just watch out for that and the all-ko'ing up smash. But diddy should be good against MK.

DI out and behind him against b-air and its not broken

 

[MysteriousSilver]

I personally hate fighting Oli. So few options to actually hit him, and he outcamps us.

I don't seem to have a problem with GW.

 

[Cherry64]

DI out and behind him against b-air and its not broken

if you want to be flashy shield most of the hits then use UpBand smash towards him, I think it cancels him attack and either lets you jump off the ground OR clanks and cancels both peeps animation, and gives you a free smash attack, I'ma try it out lol

 

[321BOOM]

I personally hate fighting Oli. So few options to actually hit him, and he outcamps us.

olimar is like... oh gawrsh. broken grabs.
only way to win is to gimp like a mother :3

if you want to be flashy shield most of the hits then use UpBand smash towards him, I think it cancels him attack and either lets you jump off the ground OR clanks and cancels both peeps animation, and gives you a free smash attack, I'ma try it out lol

that sounds like too much work lol

 

[Player_2]

He does sound like a viable back-up for those match-ups. As for G&W, ugh so effin annoying because of his broken b-air. Just watch out for that and the all-ko'ing up smash. But diddy should be good against MK.

Take it from me..I live next to P1 if any of you know he is and I would definitely use diddy as a back up cause ive seen the way he can **** a mk on rainbow cruise so I like it

 

[Cherry64]

olimar is like... oh gawrsh. broken grabs.
only way to win is to gimp like a mother :3



that sounds like too much work lol

It just turned out to be a false idea, was fun though lol.

 

[Ghnaschnakoff]

I've noticed that since Pit doesn't have true comboes at high %'s that the 'hit and run' tactic seems to work best. Punishing with F-smash and aerials in between arrow camping. Am I right to say this? Against most characters that is.

 

[MysteriousSilver]

That's Pit's strategy at it's most basic, really.

 

[321BOOM]

Pretty much, Pit should be playing defensively and all that.

 

[nightmar3]

how can i avoid getting gimper when i use WOI?

 

[Ghnaschnakoff]

Fly under the stage if you can, or glide as close as you can to the stage then WoI right next to the ledge to auto grab it. Or simply glide onto the stage.

Also, what is the way to momentum cancel with Pit? The frame data isn't complete so I can't see what is the fastest aerial. And in general how do I DI?

 

[321BOOM]

how can i avoid getting gimper when i use WOI?

fly under the stage, or up and over.
make sure to only use it as a last resort, as it's pretty easy to gimp.

Also, what is the way to momentum cancel with Pit? The frame data isn't complete so I can't see what is the fastest aerial. And in general how do I DI?

fastest aerial - dair

press up(&hold) on the analog stick when you are hit,
aim your character for the corners and keep doing your fastest aerial

 

[LaIotun]

Fly under the stage if you can, or glide as close as you can to the stage then WoI right next to the ledge to auto grab it. Or simply glide onto the stage.

Also, what is the way to momentum cancel with Pit? The frame data isn't complete so I can't see what is the fastest aerial. And in general how do I DI?

It may not be complete but it still has the duration of Pit's aerials

fly under the stage, or up and over.
make sure to only use it as a last resort, as it's pretty easy to gimp.



fastest aerial - dair

press up(&hold) on the analog stick when you are hit,
aim your character for the corners and keep doing your fastest aerial

That doesn't seem right

 

[Phaigne]

fastest aerial - dair

press up(&hold) on the analog stick when you are hit,
aim your character for the corners and keep doing your fastest aerial

Sorry, but I think there are a few problems with this.

One: While our fastest overall aerial is D-air, I'm still not sure it's whatever move is over faster. but rather which one comes out faster. I've actually heard it both ways, but I think it's whatever one comes out faster, because that's what it feels like to me. Besides, you can normally control your DI while doing a aerial, I don't see why this would be different.

Two: Pressing up isn't always true. DI is a complicated mechanic. Honestly, you should go to the Tactics board if you want more info on this.

Three You got the corners thing right, in a way, but only when you are launched really fast and that's because the corners have the farthest death-boundaries. The only thing is, when you are launched at low percents, it may be more strategic to aim elsewhere.