• Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!

    You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!

~// The Hawaii Thread \\~ V2.0

indie_dave

Smash Ace
Joined
Dec 5, 2006
Messages
530
Location
Vegas/Seoul/Honolulu
fc tourneys are always held at a church
i second the motion, especially if u have contacts that can pull venue strings

lawl, remember those lehuafests from a year ago?? wow, natsukashii XD

nealdt's ABCs are just tooooo good so here ya go
So.

This forum is obviously rife with threads for tournaments. But when's the last time we had a thread about running a tournament? I can't remember, so I thought I'd compile 26 tips for tournament organizers and list them here. These are just my opinions, of course, but I like to think I have a bit of experience running tournaments.

I'd love to hear tips from other tournament hosts as well... Kishes? GAUNTLET guys? Zane, WoZ, TA, Mages, crazy Europeans, anyone? Give us what ya got.

Anyways....

ADVERTISE. Create a thread in your regional zone forum, or in Tournament Discussion if you're expecting a large (50+) turnout. Make your post easy to read. Spell-check it. Make sure you use proper grammar. Don't make your audience struggle to get the information they need. Use colors and bold/italics sparingly, and only to highlight important information like addresses, start times, and special rules. Large tournaments can benefit from posting threads in regional zones asking for help with equipment and housing.

BE ON TIME. No one else will. If you open the venue at 8AM, be there by 7:30. Decide on a time to start your first event and then tell everyone to show up an hour earlier. It's the only way you'll ever start on time.

COMPUTERS ARE YOUR FRIENDS. Bring a laptop to the tournament and find a piece of software to help run it. Tournament Maker 2 is a popular choice, but there are superior alternatives. Download the software ahead of time and make sure you know how to use it. Bring speakers and a microphone if you have a soft voice. Also consider bringing a second monitor -- most laptops (and PCs with dual-head video cards) will let you mirror your display onto the monitor, so your players can view the bracket without crowding around the computer.

DON'T TAKE MONEY FROM THE POT. The only time it's OK to take money from entry fees is to pay for venue costs. The electricity cost of running one TV for 10 hours is negligible, so don't use your utility bill as an excuse to charge money. You aren't running a tournament to make money -- unless you actually are, in which case there are FAR better things you could be doing to that end -- you're running a tournament because it's FUN.

EXPLAIN THE RULES. Make sure everyone at your tournament understands the rules, from counterpicking to random stages to double blinds; having printed rule sheets available at each station is also effective. This is especially important for non-standard brackets like round robin pools. And be sure to apply the rules equally to all players. If someone gets screwed in a set because they were told a different set of rules -- especially if they were told by a staff member -- then the set needs to be replayed.

FIND HELP. Running a tournament is beyond the abilities of a single person. Ask for helpers before the event and make sure they know you'll be counting on them. Helpers can assist you in collecting entry fees, monitoring stations, preventing friendlies from taking over, running pools, announcing matches, setting up, tearing down, and reporting scores.

GIVE PLAYERS A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE BRACKET. Ask them to alert you if they play one of their friends or crewmates early in the tournament. While you're under no obligation to change such a scenario, it really isn't much work and will make them much happier. No one likes to play their friends in a tournament. Some software programs will automatically create a bracket so players from the same location don't play each other; figure out if yours does and use it if you can.

HOST SMALLER TOURNAMENTS BEFORE GOING FOR THE BIG TIME. Don't try to run a regional bonanza without throwing a smaller local tourney first. You'll learn more than this thread could ever teach you and people will learn to respect your name as a tournament host. Respected hosts get the big turnouts and the hot chicks (it's true).

INTRODUCE YOURSELF. Make sure everyone knows your name and what you look like; the best time to do this is when taking signups. Ask the name of everyone you don't know and tell them yours in return. It's as good a first impression as any, and someone who likes you off the bat will be much more forgiving when you yell at them to stop playing friendlies later on.

JOKE AROUND. Try not to be completely serious all the time. You're running a video game tournament, so have some fun. This will also make people like you more.

KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE PRIZE MONEY. Do not leave it in a public place. Your pocket works fine, but a locked cashbox hidden somewhere is better. Keep prize pots separate (don't mix teams and singles entry fees). Don't give the money to anyone you wouldn't trust with your first child's life.

LABEL YOUR STATIONS. Give them numbers and reference those numbers when announcing matches. NEVER TELL SOMEONE TO "just find somewhere to play." Try and keep track of who's playing where, and which stations will be open soon -- the right computer program can help with this.

MIND YOUR MANNERS. Treat your attendees with respect. Treat the owner of the venue with even greater respect, and do everything in your power to protect it from damage. Don't use a microphone unnecessarily while a big match is going on -- hearing weird sounds coming from a PA system can be very distracting. Congratulate winners when they report their victory, and encourage the losers to do better in their next matches. People will respect and listen to you if you treat them well.

NEVER LEAVE THE DESK UNATTENDED. Make sure someone is always at the front desk guarding the brackets. It's very easy for someone to quickly change your bracket or modify the pot size if you aren't looking. Have an assistant standing by for when you have to play your matches.

OPEN EARLY. Everyone wants to play friendlies during a tournament, but doing so slows everything down. So open early and let people get their friendly matches in ahead of time.

PUBLISH YOUR RESULTS. And not a sparse listing on who got first/second/third. Put copies of your brackets online; most tournament software will let you copy a bracket image, which you can paste into Paint and then upload to a website like imageshack.us or imagedump.com. A bracket image will let players see who they beat and lost to, which is much more interesting than what placing they achieved.

QUEUE MATCHES. Put matches in the on-deck circle for each station. As soon as the current match finishes, the players behind them take over while the original pair reports their score. This helps keep the tournament moving with maximum efficiency.

RECORD STUFF. Tournaments that put out videos of matches are just that much cooler. Ask for people to bring VCRs (they're surprisingly hard to find) and gather some tapes. Try to put your best matches on TVs with VCRs. But let someone else worry about starting the VCRs at the right time (you do have a staff, right?).

SEED YOUR BRACKETS. Skilled players hate entering tournaments where brackets are randomly assigned, because doing so makes results much less valid than a seeded bracket. Try to seed at least the top eighth of your entrants -- for a 64 man bracket, this means seeding the top 8 players in order. Group the rest of the players based on relative skill levels (beginners, intermediates, experts). Then create the bracket. Some software programs don't allow you to mix grouped seeding with manual seeding; in this case you should go with groups and manually fix the bracket to the top X players appear in the right slots.

TEACH YOURSELF BRACKET THEORY. Make sure you understand the logic behind double-elimination brackets. Wikipedia is a good place to learn the basics. Pay attention to how first-round matchups are scheduled, how and where players drop into the losers' bracket, and how changing a player's seed moves them around the bracket. In case of a computer malfunction, you may need to continue a bracket by hand; make sure you understand bracket theory well enough to do this.

USE COMMON SENSE. Self explanatory. Should you show that random guy where you're hiding the money? Can you trust the word of Joe Smasher if he tells you he just beat Isai? Is it a good idea to leave the venue while the tournament is still running? Should you make sure to remind players to remove their memory cards after setting up their Cubes? You should rethink your desire to host tournaments if the answers to those questions are ambiguous.

VERIFY RESULTS. Make sure both the winner and loser of a match report to you before moving on, or have a staff member watch the result. Even MLG tournaments have been tainted by improper reporting of results.

WHO YOU BEAT IS EVERYTHING. Try to emphasize to your players that their overall placing is not as important as who they beat or lost to. Someone going against Ken and PC Chris in two consecutive matches would get last place in said tournament. That isn't fair, and isn't as important as the fact that they only lost to the top two players in the nation. Try and convince your players to pay more attention to the Who (they beat) than the What (they placed).

X IS A DIFFICULT LETTER TO USE.

YOU ARE THE BOSS. Players will always complain about one aspect of the tournament or another; stick to your guns and stand by your decisions. Don't let yourself be bullied into a rule change the day of the tournament unless everyone agrees to it.

ZOMG I ONLY CAME UP WITH 24 TIPS. Oh well, I tried :).

----

Hope this helps someone...
 

TerenceLau

Smash Ace
Joined
May 8, 2005
Messages
900
Location
Honolulu, Hawaii
from now on, if anyone happens to catch a ride with me, i will be charging a little bit more, like 5 dollars. money being use for gas (no ****) and the rest go to the tournament in the summer. i know everyone is gonna be playing in this event but it ain't gonna happen if you guys don't support it and only count on bobby. we need to represent hawaii and make this **** good.

bobby, you should do this too. even though a raise might be a little mean but we gonna keep this real.
 

AnubisGX

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Mar 2, 2006
Messages
479
Location
Wahiawa, HI
dude, we workin guys gettin the government stimulus money refund thingymabob around the summer time, that should help with the tourney finances. That's free money. Me want brawl much badly!
 

Darkmusician

Smash Master
Joined
Aug 8, 2006
Messages
3,867
Location
On The Mic
from now on, if anyone happens to catch a ride with me, i will be charging a little bit more, like 5 dollars. money being use for gas (no ****) and the rest go to the tournament in the summer. i know everyone is gonna be playing in this event but it ain't gonna happen if you guys don't support it and only count on bobby. we need to represent hawaii and make this **** good.

bobby, you should do this too. even though a raise might be a little mean but we gonna keep this real.
I suppose so. We'll see after this weekend. Hopefully Daniel and his church will come through. I have 2 back up plans after that which I will implement soon after if that doesn't work.

If we do use a Church I would like to compensate the staff for their generosity anyways.
 

Fefnir Cerveau

Smash Lord
Joined
Jan 2, 2007
Messages
1,416
Location
Honolulu, Hawaii
from now on, if anyone happens to catch a ride with me, i will be charging a little bit more, like 5 dollars. money being use for gas (no ****) and the rest go to the tournament in the summer. i know everyone is gonna be playing in this event but it ain't gonna happen if you guys don't support it and only count on bobby. we need to represent hawaii and make this **** good.

bobby, you should do this too. even though a raise might be a little mean but we gonna keep this real.
Sounds good. This is addressed at me anyway. So this could be a small way of helping out the tourny huh? Guess it's good
Bob, I don't think I can honestly help out much, but I can probably bring a cube and game
 

Darkmusician

Smash Master
Joined
Aug 8, 2006
Messages
3,867
Location
On The Mic
There will be alot to help out with and not just with money.

Clean up, set up, serving food, helping me run brackets and pools and stuff like that. Also yes cubes/games are great.

I want a minimum of 15 tvs for this event. I have 2 already so that leaves 13 to go lolz. My crew at UH will be going to this most likely and I'll ask them to assist me.

That reminds me I also should check my upcoming Marching Band schedule to make sure that this doesn't conflict. I'm sure that Gwen hasn't thought about this yet but hopefully by the end of the year she'll know. I am almost 100% sure that if we can do this is July, we'll be fine.

And yeah I'm dubbing this tournament "Dark Magic Attack" You can call it DMA for short.

Forward confirmed for DMA. ^_O>
 

FireFly

Smash Lord
Joined
Oct 6, 2005
Messages
1,138
Location
Hawaii
hahahaha forward is a pimp

SUPER BRAWL SUNDAY is on biatches!
come to my house super eeaarrllyyy, throw rocks at my window if you have to wake me up
 

Darkmusician

Smash Master
Joined
Aug 8, 2006
Messages
3,867
Location
On The Mic
Forward is also a ninja fo sho.

I'll do my best to show up. Something important this Friday. Who knows how that'll affect the rest of my weekend. o_O
 

TerenceLau

Smash Ace
Joined
May 8, 2005
Messages
900
Location
Honolulu, Hawaii
Sounds good. This is addressed at me anyway. So this could be a small way of helping out the tourny huh? Guess it's good
Bob, I don't think I can honestly help out much, but I can probably bring a cube and game
thanks for getting the message behind. if you can wake up early and be on time without me waiting for you, of course you get can a ride.
 

Fuzzylittlbunny

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Apr 11, 2006
Messages
337
Location
Honolulu, HI
So is Sunday confirmed yet? I want to know if I should ask my dad about having people over lol. Or if I should just sit and wait for Brawl to come out in English...
 

Darkmusician

Smash Master
Joined
Aug 8, 2006
Messages
3,867
Location
On The Mic
Ya, sorry if it seems like spam. I just want everyone to be safe and not have to go through what I went through with my computer. I didn't catch this deadly virus but something bad enough to wipe my Windows PC 2000.
 

AnubisGX

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Mar 2, 2006
Messages
479
Location
Wahiawa, HI
darn it!!! Sunday!!!! DARN IT!!!

ok, hold it.
if anyone bringing brawl can guarantee they'll be there at like 9 or 10, I will come. I want a good 5 hours of brawl to tide me over till release.

So terence, chad, post up.

Oh, by the way, terence, your friend let you borrow his game, do you have a *** wii or did your friend let you borrow that too? Cause *** brawl ain't gonna work on US wii.
 

Darkmusician

Smash Master
Joined
Aug 8, 2006
Messages
3,867
Location
On The Mic
darn it!!! Sunday!!!! DARN IT!!!

ok, hold it.
if anyone bringing brawl can guarantee they'll be there at like 9 or 10, I will come. I want a good 5 hours of brawl to tide me over till release.

So terence, chad, post up.

Oh, by the way, terence, your friend let you borrow his game, do you have a *** wii or did your friend let you borrow that too? Cause *** brawl ain't gonna work on US wii.
Yes Dex we are well aware that the Japanese game needs the Japanese system to work. I like how your Abbr. got censored. lolz
 

mellowD

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Oct 10, 2006
Messages
188
Location
ha-y-e
hello, my name is eugene yah. na neun hangook yah. i am be typing this in za LCC yah. Dark Magic Attack yah... ilikesthefullthrottle buy me one yah
 

TerenceLau

Smash Ace
Joined
May 8, 2005
Messages
900
Location
Honolulu, Hawaii
well, i can't gaurantee that i am gonna be there around 9 or 10 ish because i am also taking people. if shoyo and joel can make it this early then i guess we can come early. honestly all three of us are night people so chances are... idk. but since i am the driver i will try to wake up early.

and i think everyone can own me in brawl, i don't have much talent in this game. but dexter would you please suck my **** anyway if i go early? you are very desperate.
 

Darkmusician

Smash Master
Joined
Aug 8, 2006
Messages
3,867
Location
On The Mic
Tom will Jose, Frankie and Nick Carter be there? Idk why but I just like saying his full name. Nick Carter. lolz

Tom what is the end time of this event?

Oh yeah, and as far as any more OOS people. Lemme just say this.

I know right now things are looking hella tight, but the communication that I have made with MOST of the OOS has been thin at best. Only time will tell. And by time I mean 2-3 months.

You can count on Forward and Eggz though. I know for sure that they're coming.
I'll keep you updated as I 110% confirm more people.
 

FireFly

Smash Lord
Joined
Oct 6, 2005
Messages
1,138
Location
Hawaii
end time around dusk, 6-7ish?

jose said he might (doubt it), frank has work or something i think, and nick probably can make it

jose doesnt need to come... felix said hes played brawl
 

TerenceLau

Smash Ace
Joined
May 8, 2005
Messages
900
Location
Honolulu, Hawaii
just one thing, if you are coming to tom's house on sunday, please bring a tv or two so we can have 2 brawls and melee running in the house. i know it'd make everyone happy. thanks.
 

Darkmusician

Smash Master
Joined
Aug 8, 2006
Messages
3,867
Location
On The Mic
That's good that Jose has already played. I know he was itching to try it.

Yay for Nick Carter. I can't stop saying Nick Carter. Nick Carter Nick Carter Nick Carter. lolz

I'll bring 2 tvs. That's the best I can do. I hope somehow some way we can actually get enough TVs by this summer. lolz

I'll team with you Tom.
 

TerenceLau

Smash Ace
Joined
May 8, 2005
Messages
900
Location
Honolulu, Hawaii
just wondering, for the people who plays brawl regularly, what are you guys' mains? i haven't decided mines yet but i've been playing mostly with marth, metaknight, falco, fox, pokemon trainer, ganon. maybe i am just gonna main the random button.
 

Darkmusician

Smash Master
Joined
Aug 8, 2006
Messages
3,867
Location
On The Mic
I think it's obvious from the videos.
Although the mains are in no particular order.

Eugene=Toon Link
Arvin=Lucas
Chad=Sonic
Rob=I think Ike
Bobby=Zelda

Although personally I think it's way to early to say who you will "main." Honestly I think that the word main is used too loosely nowadays. People say "I main Kirby." And Kirby is not even close to being their strongest character. Just cause they "use him" they consider it "maining him." That is nothing but tier whoring. I had a long talk with Emo$ about this at Dan 2.
 
Top Bottom