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The Green Lesbian is back! Learn sm4sh Samus from Brawl's best Samus player! Updated 2/19/2015!

IsmaR

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FlAlex said:
When you mean Reverse Bair do you mean something like RAR?
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Yes, but I was referring specifically to using it out of Perfect Pivoting, which speeds up the process tremendously.

Xyro77 said:
Ismar prob called it "ledge attack cancel" as more of a temp place holder name until a more official one is created. Personally, id call it a "ledge canceled attack" because that is exactly what you are doing. You are cancelling a bomb or missle on the ledge in order to do an attack off the ledge.
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Essentially, and that name fits. Though LCA doesn't really roll off the tongue as much.

Also, i am adding a section to the OP of this thread and it will have terminology and samus specific techs. Would you guys like to help me? anything you can add will be used and i will give you credit on the OP as well. I need terms, definitions and videos (if possible).
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Assuming we're keeping most of the ones from Brawl/previous games the same? Stuff like the Spiderball (using Morph Ball/Bombs right as you "slide" off the ledge). And obviously bomb jumping, even though it's not as effective anymore.

NinjaPuffins said:
Speaking of B-air, I LOVE that move. Sometimes I'll hang onto the ledge and snap out a sweetspotted B-air while they are recovering and they will be KOed quite early. Oh for the Fox/Falco vs Samus match-up Samus's D-tilt, D-air, F-air, and B-air make edge-guarding the space animals a breeze.


Awesome! So perhaps something like covering an opponent's landing with up-smash more efficiently?
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Welcome to the boards. Please try not to double post/post more than one time in a row, use the edit button to add on to your last post.
 
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IsmaR said:
Welcome to the boards. Please try not to double post/post more than one time in a row, use the edit button to add on to your last post.
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Thanks for letting me know about that. I'll try to remember that in the future.
 
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FlAlex said:
Okay, thanks for the info.

I would love to help but I don't know half as much as the rest of y'all.
I know:

Superwave-dash, Perfect Pivot, RAR, bomb-jumping (if that's even a tech), "Dash attack canceled grab," "Air dodge canceled Zair," "Ledge canceled attack", B-reversal, and charge canceling. along with the likes of Dair, Nair, SH, tech-ing, etc.

While we are doing this could we give an official name to that ledge tech? Perhaps either by giving the discoverer the choice or through voting?

Also, does Samus have a roll-canceled grab? I heard Diddy has one if I am not mistaken. I heard it covers like a fourth of FD.
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Is all of this possible on the 3ds version too?

If not it'd be nice for it to be specified when put in the OP, even though the Wii U version is the main it'd still be useful, to me at least
 
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Afro Smash said:
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Is all of this possible on the 3ds version too?

If not it'd be nice for it to be specified when put in the OP, even though the Wii U version is the main it'd still be useful, to me at least
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Yes. All current AT's were discovered on the 3ds version, such as the "Ledge canceled attack" tech. PP can be performed on the 3ds too just at the risk of busting your circle pad.

NinjaPuffins said:
What exactly is a dash attack canceled grab or a roll-canceled grab?
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I noticed in training mode at 1/4 speed Samus can actually cancel her dash attack for her grab but only immediately after the attack button so it's difficult to perform even at 1/4 speed. I noticed no increase in grab range though so it's useless. Also, it could just be me hallucinating. Maybe there is no such thing?

The roll-canceled grab is exactly what it sounds like. Some characters can grab right after beginning their roll to increase their grab range, or so I hear. I coulda swore someone said diddy's roll-canceled grab covers a fourth of FD. I might have been mishearing things again though.
 
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FlAlex said:
I noticed in training mode at 1/4 speed Samus can actually cancel her dash attack for her grab but only immediately after the attack button so it's difficult to perform even at 1/4 speed. I noticed no increase in grab range though so it's useless. Also, it could just be me hallucinating. Maybe there is no such thing?

The roll-canceled grab is exactly what it sounds like. Some characters can grab right after beginning their roll to increase their grab range, or so I hear. I coulda swore someone said diddy's roll-canceled grab covers a fourth of FD. I might have been mishearing things again though.
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Thanks for explaining and perhaps there is some useful attributes in those pieces of tech that we haven't seen yet.
 
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Update for Samus' frame data:
  1. BEGIN samus
  2. **********
  3. Jab1
  4. Frame 3- 4: 3% 8b/100g (700g*) 361°
  5. Frame 3- 4: 3% 8b/80g (560g*) 361°
  6. Enables transition to next jab state on real frame 12

  8. Jab2
  9. Frame 6- 9: 8% 30b/95g (1140g*) 361°

  11. Dash Attack
  12. Frame 10-13: 10% 80b/60g (840g*) 75°
  13. Frame 14-18: 6% 80b/60g (600g*) 75°

  15. F-tilt (high)
  16. Frame 8-10: 8% 15b/90g (1080g*) 361°
  17. Frame 8-10: 7% 15b/90g (990g*) 361°
  18. Frame 8-10: 6% 15b/90g (900g*) 361°

  20. F-tilt (normal)
  21. Frame 8-10: 7% 15b/90g (990g*) 361°
  22. Frame 8-10: 6% 15b/90g (900g*) 361°
  23. Frame 8-10: 5% 15b/90g (810g*) 361°

  25. F-tilt (low)
  26. Frame 8-10: 8% 15b/90g (1080g*) 361°
  27. Frame 8-10: 7% 15b/90g (990g*) 361°
  28. Frame 8-10: 6% 15b/90g (900g*) 361°

  30. U-tilt
  31. Frame 15-18: 13% 40b/100g (1700g*) 270° Ground-Target-Only
  32. Frame 15-18: 12% 40b/100g (1600g*) 361° Aerial-Target-Only

  34. D-tilt
  35. Frame 6- 8: 12% 80b/48g (768g*) 80° 0.4-Trip Fire

  37. F-smash (high)
  38. Frame 10-11: 15% 40b/100g (1900g*) 361° Fire
  39. Frame 10-11: 13% 16b/112g (1904g*) 361°

  41. F-smash (normal)
  42. Frame 10-11: 14% 40b/100g (1800g*) 361° Fire
  43. Frame 10-11: 12% 16b/112g (1792g*) 361°
  44. Smash charge window on real frame 4

  46. F-smash (low)
  47. Frame 10-11: 13.5% 40b/100g (1750g*) 361° Fire
  48. Frame 10-11: 11% 16b/112g (1680g*) 361°

  50. U-smash
  51. Frame 11-12: 3% 100f/100w 110° 0.8-SDI Fire Ground-Target-Only
  52. Frame 11-12: 3% 100f/90w 80° 0.8-SDI Fire
  53. Frame 11-12: 3% 100f/70w 366° 0.8-SDI Fire Aerial-Target-Only
  54. Frame 15-16: 3% 100f/90w 80° 0.8-SDI Fire
  55. Frame 15-16: 3% 100f/70w 160° 0.8-SDI Fire
  56. Frame 19-20: 3% 100f/90w 80° 0.8-SDI Fire
  57. Frame 19-20: 3% 100f/70w 160° 0.8-SDI Fire
  58. Frame 23-24: 3% 100f/80w 85° 0.8-SDI Fire
  59. Frame 23-24: 3% 100f/50w 366° 0.8-SDI Fire
  60. Frame 27-28: 6% 50b/135g (1350g*) 80° 0.8-SDI Fire
  61. Smash charge window on real frame 10

  63. D-smash
  64. Frame 9-10: 10% 70b/46g (644g*) 31° 0.3-Trip
  65. Frame 17-18: 12% 70b/48g (768g*) 31° 0.3-Trip
  66. Smash charge window on real frame 6

  68. Nair
  69. Frame 8- 9: 8% 40b/100g (1200g*) 32°
  70. Frame 16-17: 7% 40b/100g (1100g*) 361°
  71. Frame 18-22: 6% 10b/80g (800g*) 361°
  72. Enables transition to Nair landing state (landing lag) on real frame 8
  73. Cancels transition to Nair landing state (landing lag) on real frame 35

  75. Fair
  76. Frame 6- 7: 3% 100f/3w 280° 0.8-SDI Fire
  77. Frame 6- 7: 3% 100f/3w 295° 0.8-SDI Fire
  78. Frame 20-13: [1%]x3 100f/30w 366° 0.8-SDI Fire
  79. Frame 20-13: [1%]x3 100f/25w 20° 0.8-SDI Fire
  80. Frame 30-31: 5% 40b/140g (1260g*) 361° 2.2-Hitlag Fire
  81. Enables transition to Fair landing state (landing lag) on real frame 0
  82. Cancels transition to Fair landing state (landing lag) on real frame 47

  84. Bair
  85. Frame 9-10: 14% 42b/98g (1764g*) 361° 1.1-Hitlag
  86. Frame 9-10: 12% 30b/98g (1568g*) 361°
  87. Frame 11-14: 9% 20b/90g (1170g*) 361°
  88. Enables transition to Bair landing state (landing lag) on real frame 9
  89. Cancels transition to Bair landing state (landing lag) on real frame 42

  91. Uair
  92. Frame 5- 6: 3% 100f/30w 90°
  93. Frame 5- 6: 3% 0b/130g (910g*) 361°
  94. Frame 8- 9: [1%]x4 100f/30w 80°
  95. Frame 8- 9: [1%]x4 0b/130g (650g*) 80°
  96. Frame 20-21: 4% 40b/160g (1280g*) 70°
  97. Enables transition to Uair landing state (landing lag) on real frame 5
  98. Cancels transition to Uair landing state (landing lag) on real frame 34

  100. Dair
  101. Frame 17-18: 10% 25b/100g (1400g*) 361°
  102. Frame 19-21: 14% 25b/85g (1530g*) 270°
  103. Frame 22-23: 11% 25b/100g (1500g*) 361°
  104. Enables transition to Dair landing state (landing lag) on real frame 4
  105. Cancels transition to Dair landing state (landing lag) on real frame 34

  107. Grab
  108. Frame 16-25: Grab

  110. Dash Grab
  111. Frame 16-26: Grab

  113. Pivot Grab
  114. Frame 17-28: Grab

  116. Pummel
  117. Frame 3- 3: 1.2% 100f/30w 361°
  118. Enables state transition on real frame 9

  120. F-throw
  121. Frame 0- 1: 9% 60b/55g (715g*) 42°

  123. B-throw
  124. Frame 0- 1: 8% 60b/55g (660g*) 40°

  126. U-throw
  127. Frame 0-13: 4% 80b/70g (560g*) 90°
  128. Frame 14-15: [1%]x5 10b/100g (500g*) 80° 0.0-Hitlag 0.0-SDI Electric

  130. D-throw
  131. Frame 0- 1: 6% 80b/50g (500g*) 80°

  133. unknown substate 0x22e
  134. Enables state transition on real frame 20

  136. unknown substate 0x22f
  137. Enables state transition on real frame 20

  139. unknown substate 0x230
  140. Enables state transition on real frame 23

  142. unknown substate 0x236
  143. Enables state transition on real frame 23

  145. unknown substate 0x237
  146. Enables state transition on real frame 23

  148. unknown substate 0x238
  149. Enables state transition on real frame 28

  151. Screw Attack (???)
  152. Frame 5- 6: 2%(+3) 100f/180w 95° 0.5-SDI
  153. Frame 5- 6: 2%(+3) 100f/120w 95° 0.5-SDI
  154. Frame 7- 8: [1%(+3)]x3100f/150w 100° 0.2-SDI Aerial-Target-Only
  155. Frame 7- 8: [1%(+3)]x3100f/120w 100° 0.2-SDI Ground-Target-Only
  156. Frame 13-14: [1%(+3)]x6 100f/80w 100° 0.5-SDI Ground-Target-Only
  157. Frame 13-14: [1%(+3)]x6 100f/50w 110° 0.5-SDI Aerial-Target-Only
  158. Frame 25-26: 1%(+3) 50b/240g (1200g*) 70° 2.0-Hitlag Electric
  159. Enables state transition on real frame 5
  160. Enables forward ledge grabs on real frame 7
  161. Enables all ledge grabs on real frame 27

  163. Screw Rush (???)
  164. Frame 11-23: [2%(+3)]x4 100f/95w 35° 0.8-Hitlag 0.2-SDI Ground-Target-Only
  165. Frame 11-23: [2%(+3)]x4 100f/95w 366° 0.8-Hitlag 0.2-SDI Aerial-Target-Only
  166. Frame 25-25: 5%(+3) 80b/110g (990g*) 40° 2.0-Hitlag Electric
  167. Enables state transition on real frame 11
  168. Enables forward ledge grabs on real frame 15
  169. Enables all ledge grabs on real frame 26

  171. Apex Screw Attack (???)
  172. Frame 15-15: 2% 150b/20g (120g*) 92°
  173. Frame 25-27: 9% 90b/100g (1300g*) 70° 2.0-Hitlag Electric
  174. Enables forward ledge grabs on real frame 15
  175. Enables state transition on real frame 15
  176. Enables all ledge grabs on real frame 28

  178. Screw Attack (???)
  179. Frame 5- 6: [1%(+3)]x3 100b/0g (0g*) 110°
  180. Frame 5- 6: [1%(+3)]x3 25b/0g (0g*) 140°
  181. Frame 11-12: [1%(+3)]x8 100f/50w 100° 0.5-SDI Ground-Target-Only
  182. Frame 11-12: [1%(+3)]x8 25b/0g (0g*) 366° Aerial-Target-Only
  183. Frame 27-28: 1%(+3) 50b/240g (1200g*) 70° 2.0-Hitlag Electric
  184. Enables forward ledge grabs on real frame 5
  185. Enables all ledge grabs on real frame 29

  187. Screw Rush (???)
  188. Frame 11-23: [2%(+3)]x4 100f/95w 35° 0.8-Hitlag 0.2-SDI Ground-Target-Only
  189. Frame 11-23: [2%(+3)]x4 100f/95w 366° 0.8-Hitlag 0.2-SDI Aerial-Target-Only
  190. Frame 25-25: 5%(+3) 80b/110g (990g*) 40° 2.0-Hitlag Electric
  191. Enables forward ledge grabs on real frame 15
  192. Enables all ledge grabs on real frame 26

  194. Apex Screw Attack (???)
  195. Frame 17-17: 2% 140b/25g (150g*) 92°
  196. Frame 28-29: 7% 90b/100g (1100g*) 70° 2.0-Hitlag Electric
  197. Enables forward ledge grabs on real frame 20
  198. Enables all ledge grabs on real frame 30

  200. unknown substate 0x246
  201. Enables state transition on real frame 4

  203. unknown substate 0x247
  204. Enables state transition on real frame 4

  206. unknown substate 0x248
  207. Enables state transition on real frame 6

  209. unknown substate 0x25a
  210. Frame 0- 7: 1%(+1) 100f/22w 20°
  211. Frame 8-11: 2%(+1) 100f/22w 20°

  213. unknown substate 0x25b
  214. Frame 0- 7: 1%(+1) 100f/22w 20°
  215. Frame 8-11: 2%(+1) 100f/22w 20°

  217. unknown substate 0x25f
  218. Frame 48-68: [1%]x2 100f/12w 18° 0.0-Hitlag 0.0-SDI Electric
  219. Frame 48-68: [0%]x2 100f/30w 18° 0.0-Hitlag 0.0-SDI
  220. Frame 48-68: [0%]x2 100f/30w 367° 0.0-Hitlag 0.0-SDI

  222. **********
  223. END samus

  225. BEGIN samus_bomb
  226. **********
  227. Bomb (???)
  228. Frame 52-53: 4%(+6) 22b/45g (360g*) 361° 0.6-Hitlag Fire

  230. Slip Bomb (???)
  231. Frame 60-61: 0% 0b/45g (180g*) 361° Fire Unblockable

  233. Mega Bomb (???)
  234. Frame 100-101: 4%(+6) 22b/45g (360g*) 361° 0.6-Hitlag Fire

  236. Bomb (explosion)
  237. Frame 0-17: 5%(+6) 15b/45g (405g*) 361° 0.3-Hitlag Fire

  239. Slip Bomb (explosion)
  240. Frame 0- 2: 3.5%(+3) 40b/110g (825g*) 270° 0.3-Hitlag Fire Aerial-Target-Only
  241. Frame 0- 2: 2.5%(+6) 15b/45g (292g*) 361° 1.0-Trip 0.3-Hitlag Fire Ground-Target-Only

  243. Mega Bomb (explosion)
  244. Frame 0-17: 9%(+10) 30b/75g (975g*) 50° 0.5-Hitlag Fire

  246. **********
  247. END samus_bomb

  249. BEGIN samus_cshot
  250. **********
  251. Charge Shot
  252. Frame 0- 1: 25%(+3) 30b/62g (1798g*) 40° 0.7-Hitlag Electric
  253. Frame 0- 1: 3% 14b/42g (294g*) 361° Electric

  255. Dense Charge Shot
  256. Frame 0- 1: 27%(+3) 40b/65g (2015g*) 40° 0.7-Hitlag Electric
  257. Frame 0- 1: 4% 14b/42g (336g*) 361° Electric

  259. Melee Charge Shot
  260. Frame 0- 1: 18%(+3) 65b/60g (1320g*) 35° 2.2-Hitlag Electric
  261. Frame 0- 1: 5% 30b/50g (450g*) 45° Electric

  263. **********
  264. END samus_cshot

  266. BEGIN samus_laser
  267. **********
  268. Final Smash
  269. Frame 12-139: [1.5%(+1)]x13 100f/16w 20°
  270. Frame 140-147: 5.5%(+30) 60b/200g (1900g*) 361° Electric Unblockable

  272. **********
  273. END samus_laser

  275. BEGIN samus_laser2
  276. **********
  277. Final Smash
  278. Frame 17-139: [0.5%(+1)]x16 100f/20w 325°
  279. Frame 140-147: 2.5%(+30) 70b/180g (1170g*) 45° Electric Unblockable

  281. Final Smash
  282. Frame 17-139: [0.5%(+1)]x16 100f/24w 45°
  283. Frame 140-147: 2.5%(+30) 70b/180g (1170g*) 45° Electric Unblockable

  285. **********
  286. END samus_laser2

  288. BEGIN samus_missile
  289. **********
  290. Missile (homing)
  291. Frame 0- 1: 5%(+1) 26b/22g (198g*) 0° Fire

  293. Relentless Missile (homing)
  294. Frame 0- 1: 3%(+1) 26b/22g (154g*) 0° Fire

  296. Turbo Missile (homing)
  297. Frame 0-57: 4%(+1) 26b/22g (176g*) 0° Fire

  299. unknown substate 0x6
  300. Frame 0- 1: 4%(+1) 26b/22g (176g*) 361° Fire

  302. **********
  303. END samus_missile

  305. BEGIN samus_supermissile
  306. **********
  307. Missile (super)
  308. Frame 0- 1: 10%(+5) 50b/65g (910g*) 65° Fire

  310. Relentless Missile (super)
  311. Frame 0- 1: 12%(+5) 50b/65g (1040g*) 60° Fire

  313. Turbo Missile (super)
  314. Frame 0-59: 9%(+5) 50b/65g (845g*) 65° Fire

  316. unknown substate 0x6
  317. Frame 0- 1: 9%(+5) 50b/65g (845g*) 65° Fire

  319. **********
  320. END samus_supermissile

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Do you guys know what the numbers and letters mean in the columns after the moves? (i.e 8b/100g (700g*) 361° )
 
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Many thanks Rohins.

30% trip chance on d-smash? Well, that would be damn nice if it was real. Or am I missing something?
 
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Yeah there are several moves listed with trip properties that hit vertically in the source. Perhaps they cause tripping on someone metal with a big handicap difference? Ill test when I get home.
 
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I'm going to be late in Super Smash Bros. Wii, but from what I recall using bombs in SSBB if they work the same in SSBW is that I found them useful when my opponent was on the edge. Drop and move back during the animation. Climbing up directly or hitting as your opponent comes up should be two options removed.
 
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I have videos vs FlipHop (diddy) and i actually won some. He won majority though.

I also did a 10$ MM with a Shulk user and i won that too. Recorded that as well.

As soon as these are online ill posted them.
 
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Xyro77 said:
I have videos vs FlipHop (diddy) and i actually won some. He won majority though.

I also did a 10$ MM with a Shulk user and i won that too. Recorded that as well.

As soon as these are online ill posted them.
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Saweet! Can't wait to see some of those games.
 
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Xyro77 said:
If you know my history, yes.



edit: If any of you want to meet me or play me in real life, i am hosting a massive event at the end of Feb in Houston, Tx. If any Samus mains attend, you will be let in for free and housed for free. http://smashboards.com/threads/feb-...-200-pot-bonus-for-smash-4-houston-tx.384812/
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Where may we find your history? (if it's not too personal to ask)

You're pretty nice to let Samus mains in for free. Sadly I can't make it but I wish all participants the best of luck! Go Samus! Go Samus!
 
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I coined the term "green lesbian" because:

1. I like Green Samus.
2. Ive never seen Samus sex a male.
3. Ive seen Samus touch up on a woman (dark samus) in a sexual way during the events of Metroid Prime 2 and Prime 3.

Green LESBIAN confirmed.



Also, in the Brawl days, i created 2 joke combo videos that made fun of an old Samus player that only played for 2 years.

Xyro's Samus: The Green Lesbian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbgxF7EvwlM

Xyro's Samus: The Green Lesbian: Returns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JeWbuRhaao



So yeah ever since then, ive been known as the Green Lesbian or Papa Lesbian or Tha Lezbo.


Anyways, back to smash 4! Ill have some more videos for you all pretty soon. I asked the dude who recorded them to put them online this morning.
 
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Even if there were people who didn't like Xyro (pronounced "zero"), they would have to admit that he made Samus look good in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. (I also played against n00b, Ismar, Rohins) I played a few matches with Xyro online in the past and I learned to utilize the charge shot in a more interesting way as he had. He also showed me his tricks for using stages to his advantage. He's competitive, but he does seem to come off silly when he plays.

I still do personally think I did pretty damn well with z-air, especially when fighting other Samus players.
 
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Dryn said:
I'm going to be late in Super Smash Bros. Wii, but from what I recall using bombs in SSBB if they work the same in SSBW is that I found them useful when my opponent was on the edge. Drop and move back during the animation. Climbing up directly or hitting as your opponent comes up should be two options removed.
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The Bomb drop method still works. It kind of requires a bit more precision. Facing away from the edge makes dropping them off the cliff easier, but I don't think anyone has time to adjust to that position during a match.
 
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Afro Smash said:
Is Fastfall Uair to Jab a true combo at higher percents?
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Based on Training Modes definition of a combo, yes. Against Mario, I did a SHFF Uair > Jab on Mario getting him up to 9%. Even with him at higher percent, it still worked. It was a little more difficult because when you're at higher percent, it's as if you can get away. Try Little Mac's multihit jab on your opponent at higher percent and they can actually DI out of it. Same concept here. You have to be really quick, though, otherwise the combo measure will count the uair and jab as a separate thing.
 
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Xyro77 said:
I coined the term "green lesbian" because:

1. I like Green Samus.
2. Ive never seen Samus sex a male.
3. Ive seen Samus touch up on a woman (dark samus) in a sexual way during the events of Metroid Prime 2 and Prime 3.

Green LESBIAN confirmed.
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Woah. Sounds like a bad fanfiction....
Dryn said:
Xyro (pronounced "zero")
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Woops. Been mispronouncing that. (Why so many named Zero?)
 
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Xyro77 said:
pronounce it anyway you want.
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Nah, that would just be rude of me.

Hey, Xyro, why don't you make an in depth guide to Smash4 Samus? I don't feel like I know as much as I should and the only guide out there is one by Jtails(who does a great job of covering almost everything that I know of). Just a suggestion.

Happy new years everyone!
 
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Xyro77 said:
I could do that. What would you all like to see?
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I would like to see everything I don't know yet, but I don't even know how much I don't know. I could write a list of everything I do know but that would be a bit time consuming. (I can still make it if desired).

Most importantly though, I would LOVE to see some applications of moves I haven't thought of yet. I have no idea how to engage my enemies with Samus. Im always left waiting for them to come to me. Most of her moves have too much end-lag for a comfortable offense. Oh, and some ideas of how to get out of juggles/ attack aerial opposition from the ground and the air.
Basically, what I desire is not a video on tech but rather on application which I could get if I just went and watched your matches.

Some custom moves in acton would be nice but ultimately an additive to me.

Thanks in advance!
 
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I was looking at the frame data for bombs, as far as I can tell there isn't any info on when they activate.

If we had the data, we would be able to tell how good bomb is for setting up a 'safe' area. For example if bombs activate on frame 25 and it takes 17 frames before you can act out of shield, it is essentially 100% 'safe' to drop a bomb at a distance vs a shielding opponent because there is no way they can hit you before the bomb arms. If you were to then take into account the full length of attack animations, we would even know how for many frames the safe area extends to a 'grenade-counter' area, in that it would always damage an attacking opponent.
 
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When Lylat Cruise tilts it can make fighters airborne when using an attack that moves you over the engines on the cruiser. This is also true for rolls and can give us a fast short roll.
 
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Xyro77 said:
I could do that. What would you all like to see?
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I would love it if you could do a breakdown of in-game decision-making. Like, maybe record a few of your replays, and then talk over them and explain why you use certain approaches or how your approaches differ from alternative approaches and why you choose one over the other.
 
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leiraD said:
I would love it if you could do a breakdown of in-game decision-making. Like, maybe record a few of your replays, and then talk over them and explain why you use certain approaches or how your approaches differ from alternative approaches and why you choose one over the other.
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This.
 
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Xyro77 said:
Genius idea. I WILL do that
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I'm throwing my money at the screen. Why won't you accept it! (I WOULD pay you had I the excess money in all seriousness because I know it will help me big time).

Edit: Could you possibly also criticize some of our videos so that you could show us "what to do" VS "what NOT to do" ?

And do u need help making the video in anyways? I can't say I have much to offer with my computer down but hopefully someone else would love to help?

Thanks in advance!
 
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