The BlazBlue Thread: all the imports!

[Lythium]

Haha, agreed.

None of them were really competitively viable though, imo.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Was PSN down for the weekend or something, by the way? Every time I tried to play Extend or anything online, it would tell me I had 0 of my PSN friends on and wouldn't connect.

 

[Lythium]

There was maintenance, I think.

 

[lilseph]

Man, none of you are allowed to talk about pain in CS1 unless you played Tsubaki.

or Rachel.

At least Tsubaki and Rachel didn't have 30-70 MU's vs Bang and Litchi T-T

 

[Rutger]

At least Lambda had good matchups...


Besides, they were pretty damn close to 30-70 anyways. Hell, if we go by this Rachel did have a 30-70 matchup vs Bang.

 

[LivewiresXe]

There was maintenance, I think.

Oh okay. I was thinking I'd have to maintenance my hand upside their faces, lol.

 

[Kuraudo]

Aaand I finally did Ragna's challenges. /victory fanfare

 

[LivewiresXe]

Aaand I finally did Ragna's challenges. /victory fanfare

Ask and you shall receive.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIUCrK16060&feature=related

 

[Jdietz43]

I'll never forget. I played Lambda. Those were dark times for me I tell you...

*Played Litchi*

*pretends he doesn't know what everyone was talking about*

 

[Minato]

At least Tsubaki and Rachel didn't have 30-70 MU's vs Bang and Litchi T-T

Tsubaki couldn't even do safe blockstrings back in CS1...
That's pretty bad lol

She suffered the most from how good IBing was back then.

 

[Spelt]

I would argue that rachel vs bang was 70-30 or worse. Rachel vs carl was even worse too, like nearly hopeless. He could literally just sit behind nirvana and he was practically untouchable.

Our matchup vs litchi wasn't that bad at least, though.





I got out-zoned by a Noel once in cs1.

 

[Minato]

I would argue that rachel vs bang was 70-30 or worse. Rachel vs carl was even worse too, like nearly hopeless. He could literally just sit behind nirvana and he was practically touchless.

Our matchup vs litchi wasn't that bad at least, though.





I got out-zoned by a Noel once in cs1.

Rachel vs Carl was awful, I agree. Rachel vs Noel didn't too many issues though if I played the zoning game. So I'd have to disagree with you there. Up close though, Noel gave me problems. Especially with Haida Loop doing so much damage and was an easy corner carry combo. 3 combos and you were dead.

 

[Spelt]

Well, it was just once. It was my fault, but it was one of the most humiliating things and it's pretty dumb that that was even possible.

Noel could do more in that situation than she should've been able to. If she stayed fullscreen we couldn't really get to her without wind and if she played safe and patiently enough she could wait it out until we had no more wind which made it much easier for her to get in, especially because of ****ty wind regen. It still wasn't a free approach, but it made it less of an uphill battle for sure.

 

[Kuraudo]

I got my first ragequitter last night. My first match too. He disconnected as I astral'd him.

I think training for 2 hours straight really helped in my execution. I can blood kain on demand now mid combo. All I gotta do now is get better at using Inferno Divider in the mIddle of defending and being pressured.

My aim is to seem entirely different next time I play you guys.

 

[Minato]

I wish you got Extend for PS3 or something. You won't get to see how much my Rachel has improved. lol

But that's good though. I've gotten BK combos down in training mode but not on real opponents yet.

All I gotta do now is get better at using Inferno Divider in the mIddle of defending and being pressured.

My aim is to seem entirely different next time I play you guys.

This makes me mad though. Stupid powerful DP.

 

[Crusayer]

I still want to see that TK sword iris blockstring \o/. I like seeing crazy blockstrings <3

Just do IDC DPs as ragna. Gotta respect him since he can do like 3k+ off it (almost like noel's 4k off random 2D in CS2!) **** staggered blockstrings!

 

[Minato]

I still want to see that TK sword iris blockstring \o/. I like seeing crazy blockstrings <3

Just do IDC DPs as ragna. Gotta respect him since he can do like 3k+ off it (almost like noel's 4k off random 2D in CS2!) **** staggered blockstrings!

My pressure's pretty good when I face Rutger on most days now. I'm basically trying to never let them leave the corner once they're there. I'm pretty consistent on being on point now, but I could definitely use some more work.
I need to face more people since all I've face is mainly Relius. Every other match up I've played recently, the connection has been spotty.

And I love Ragna DP mind games (when I'm using him). Run up DP as an oki is fun.
They'll either mash 2A or try to throw tech.

 

[Rutger]

Relius doesn't have the best defense in pressure either. I'll try working on 236A plus Ignis, but that will only help me so much.


A few people here play characters with DPs, just need to play them more.

 

[lilseph]

Litchi vs Lambda was quite literally if you guessed wrong at the start of the match as to what Litchi was going to do you instantly lost. Bang wasn't as as bad in the sense that you can escape him... kinda... but D Nails were so unbelievably broken in CS1 that he could freely approach Lambda as long as he had 3+ nails in his pocket.

I'm not saying that Lambda had it harder then Tsubaki or Rachel, but you have to admit they all had it pretty ****ty in CS1 against top tier.

OMG AND DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON HAZAMA! He made me quit blazblue for 3 months...

But enough of CS1, that was a stupid, unbalanced game that very little people like.

 

[Spelt]

It was basically the same way with all of litchi's matchups though.

1 hit into 5k + daisharin corner oki and one wrong guess out of like ten and you're dead.
Litchi was really, really, really dumb in cs1.


cs1 was just a terrible game in general.

 

[lilseph]

Yeah... Litchi was stupid...

Oh lol I completely forgot about Valk. Holy **** Valk was better then both of them IMO

 

[Zero_Gamer]

Taokaka...

 

[LivewiresXe]

Taokaka...

Nyah nyah nyah, now I'm bored?

 

[Kuraudo]

Currently 5-0 in rank wins so far. Lessee just how far I can go before losing... lol

I also started doing some of Hazama's challenge mode stuff. After I finish mastering Ragna I'll probably take him and Relius up still.

 

[Crusayer]

Of course you'd take Hazama up!

JYOKU HOUTENJIN. The next logical DP choice~

Spoiler

I jk lolol

 

[LivewiresXe]

Of course you'd take Hazama up!

JYOKU HOUTENJIN. The next logical DP choice~

Spoiler

I jk lolol

Well, who needs an uppercut when you've got a Super Kick? Freaking Shawn Michaels didn't need some Inferno Divider.

 

[Lythium]

Yo, any of you guys play or have played Plat for any significant period of time? I'm thinking of picking her up, just for fun, and I could use some pointers.

My boyfriend says that I'm doing it mostly right (for day one, I guess), but is there anything I should keep in mind?

 

[Kuraudo]

Well, who needs an uppercut when you've got a Super Kick? Freaking Shawn Michaels didn't need some Inferno Divider.

He's just a sexy boy~

 

[Zero_Gamer]

I wish I could give Platinum advice, but I don't even have the matchup experience, let alone character knowledge, to bother. She looks like a better and sexier Jin though. At least, that's the impression I'm getting.

 

[Minato]

Yo, any of you guys play or have played Plat for any significant period of time? I'm thinking of picking her up, just for fun, and I could use some pointers.

My boyfriend says that I'm doing it mostly right (for day one, I guess), but is there anything I should keep in mind?

I still use Platinum. I don't know how much you know Platinum though. Her oki usually consists of bubble. Midscreen after a combo ender of 22C, you can do dash 2A to cross under their neutral tech like what Ragna and Bang players do. If you have bombs, I like doing 214D for an oki after setting a bubble. Whether ending in 22C or a Mami Circular depends on your meter or where you are on screen. So it's pretty much the same thing as Ragna going for ID/HF.

Important normals on ground are 5A for staggering, 2B/5B for range, 5C for gatling into or to JC out of, 3C to lead into 22C or oki like bubble or to end a block string after a blocked 5C and then cancel into bubble or something. 2C and 6A are your anti-airs (do 6A if you think 2C is too slow for the situation). 6C is invulnerable to lows. Treat it like Ragna's 6D to jD for pressure. You can even do 6C jC j236C jC to open them up.

For air normals, jA is your air to air. jB is a good move. It's used for cross ups, fuzzy guards, and is your best air to ground move. jC is great for spacing with it's range. j2C has low hitstun. I use it to lead into tick throws, for staggering, and I'm sure you can do fuzzy guards with it.

On neutral game, I'll throw out a bubble and kind of space with a jC if they try to avoid the bubble, use Swallow Moon to delay yourself in the air to control space better also. For corner combo enders, I don't like going into Air Persia so much if I want to do a more solid oki, but it's up to you.

Bat and Super are your only reversals, both are punishable on block (but bat is easy to get away with online).
Remember she can special cancel out of throws like Ragna now, so her midscreen throw is improved.

 

[lilseph]

Just learn dat bubble.

 

[Lythium]

Cool, thanks Minato!

I sort of knew most of that stuff, but it's still helpful to know that I got it right. I didn't know you could crossunder with her 2A though, that's pretty cool.

Maybe I'll just get you to play against me some time, and you can critique me. :3

 

[LivewiresXe]

If you don't mind me asking a similar question, Lythi, does anyone have any like early Tao advice/beginner suggestions? Hell, even some Relius stuff if I feel like occasionally trying him out.

As for Platinum stuff to you Lythi, a lot of people I see use Bubble Oki, and there seems to be an endless stream of 22Cs, lol. Oh, and Baseball Bat, I've seen a ton of those. So yeah, kinda echoing a bit of what Minato said, but from a "person who plays against, not with" perspective.

 

[Lythium]

Yeah, I've noticed that as well. Haha, thanks though. I've played against my bf's Plat a lot in CS2, but I think he may be picking up Ragna or something, so now's my chance to snap up dat loli. :3

There was a time when I thought about playing Tao (which I didn't, but still), and someone gave me this advice, so I'll pass it on to you: the most important thing about playing Tao is that you NEED a strong neutral game to be successful. Without any understanding of her neutral game, you'll be flailing around the screen, taking unneeded damage, and when you're tied for lowest health in the game, that is a problem.

So, start there, I'd say.

 

[Minato]

Does anyone want to play some Extend later tonight or something btw?

 

[Kuraudo]

Does anyone want to play some Extend later tonight or something btw?

I would, but....you know how that went with me getting the 360 version instead. Though I may pick up the PS3 version anyway at some point just so I can play with everyone. But we'll see.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Does anyone want to play some Extend later tonight or something btw?

I might be up for some, depending on how things go over here.


And thanks for the advice about the Neutral Game part of it, Lythi. I would imagine that as much of the type of character that flies around as Tao seems to be, that it is probably quite the "controlled chaos" so to speak with it.

 

[Rutger]

Neutral game is important with Relius as well. You really need to know how to take advantage of his tools, stuff like the range of his 2B and 5B and everything Ignis can do. You also really need to know how to manage Ignis' meter, it is really easy to waste it.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Yeah, if I decide to put time into him, that's going to be a big problem. That being said, I gotta make sure to keep putting the most time into my Noel though so I don't get stupid.

 

[Minato]

I'm going to hop on PSN in another half hour. If no one wants to play, I'll just go back to SFXT.