The BlazBlue Thread: all the imports!

[LivewiresXe]

I suggest completely ignoring Lythi's advice. Forget all that junk and just air dash in with a j.C. Solves ALL your troubles.

But seriously, you pretty much have to make Lambda commit to something until you can really do too much. It sucks sometimes yeah, but it seems to be how it is when I play against her.

 

[Kuraudo]

IT ARRIVED! /going out to pick up the game. ...... ffffuuuu-- I work today. ;;

 

[Crusayer]

So should I be patient and wait for her to throw out a move first? Or do I aggressively force space pressure through barrier canceling like against mu?

Also, is that CS2 or EX advice lol. Since 214B trajectory changed, I'm not sure if it still applies?

That and does 214A~D fatal wall bounce in EX anymore? I forget.

 

[Lythium]

Okay, well. I don't really know Makoto-specific stuff. But being patient is key to winning this match-up. The worst thing you can do against Lambda is just rush in.

Unless you're going to eat a super or air-unblockable, I probably wouldn't barrier. Barrier got buffed in Extend, so it's going to push you even further away. I know in CS2, Makoto's j.2C was a really good move against Lambda, and she doesn't really have an answer to it. I don't know if this is still the case in Extend though. If the Lambda player is mashing drive blockstrings, parry dat shizz. Watch out for her 236D oki, she can get good damage off it. Also, Lambda's blockstrings are pretty easy to IB, so that may help you a bit.

 

[LivewiresXe]

IT ARRIVED! /going out to pick up the game. ...... ffffuuuu-- I work today. ;;

You got it in the mail today, Kuraudo? Sweet. Of course, you probably didn't get yours from Amazon, but fist bump anyway.

 

[Kuraudo]

You got it in the mail today, Kuraudo? Sweet. Of course, you probably didn't get yours from Amazon, but fist bump anyway.

No I pre-ordered mine from EB Games actually. /brofist

 

[Crusayer]

NOT barriering?

Huh.

I guess I'll have to jump around like a flying squirrel then \o/.

 

[Lythium]

NOT barriering?

Huh.

I guess I'll have to jump around like a flying squirrel then \o/.

Well, you can. But I wouldn't necessarily recommend prolonged use of barrier during blockstrings, for example. It's just going to make it harder for you to get in.

But Lambda isn't good up close, so as long as you can get in her face, she's yours.

 

[Minato]

NOT barriering?

Huh.

I guess I'll have to jump around like a flying squirrel then \o/.

Well, barrier cancel to stop your runs whenever she starts pressing D so you can block in time.
Don't barrier block her attacks though since that means you'll be stuck in block stun longer as opposed to just blocking.

 

[Zero_Gamer]

So should I be patient and wait for her to throw out a move first? Or do I aggressively force space pressure through barrier canceling like against mu?

Also, is that CS2 or EX advice lol. Since 214B trajectory changed, I'm not sure if it still applies?

That and does 214A~D fatal wall bounce in EX anymore? I forget.

It's CSX advice. In CS2, Makoto's 214B~D wasn't high enough to go over Spike Chaser, but the new trajectory is the perfect height for so many things. Counter-hit leads to a free combo. Btw, the reason I say 214B~D instead of 214B is because Makoto pulls back her hitbox slightly and slows her descent during ~D.

214A~D (any level) will wall bounce on counter-hit, but it only fatals if Level 3. It's probably my favorite move in the game now, mostly because I can scooooop more than once.

214A~C beats everything. Can follow-up with ~B on counter-hit, and ~A is safe on block.

I prefer being patient over being aggressive in general, but one thing to note is that Lambda can't punish a spaced 5D. I don't think anyone can punish a perfectly spaced 5D, actually (barring Hazama).

Lythium, I'm not recommending to barrier block everything. I'm sure you already know, but barrier blocking immediately cancels your running animation and lets you block on frame 1. And it was Spelt who gave Hakumen advice.

Also, Makoto's j.2C is horrible trash now. Don't do it on anyone ever.

 

[Lythium]

Lythium, I'm not recommending to barrier block everything. I'm sure you already know, but barrier blocking immediately cancels your running animation and lets you block on frame 1.

Haha, I didn't say you were? I was just giving some general advice to Crusayer about the match-up. I've played with and against Lambda, so I was just sharing what I know about the match-up in general. From the perspective of a Lambda player, and how a rushdown character should approach, and close the gap. I was assuming someone, such as yourself, who plays Makoto, could fill in the necessary details (which you did). Sorry for the confusion, I wasn't really addressing your post when I wrote that.

And it was Spelt who gave Hakumen advice.

My bad. Them reading skills.

Also, Makoto's j.2C is horrible trash now. Don't do it on anyone ever.

That's kinda what I thought, but I wasn't sure if that was the case in Extend.

 

[Moblin]

I have trouble approaching Lambda as Haku-men. What do I do?

Turtle and instant block until you have 4 stars, then punish any swords she throws out with your 10 frame ranged super.

rinse repeat


also taunt

 

[Jdietz43]

Lambda story mode... so sad... cry every-time ;~;

 

[Spelt]

I'm not that great at the makoto vs lambda match. All I can say that hasn't been said already is if you get in on her do everything possible to make sure she doesn't get out.

 

[Kuraudo]

/on lunch break. totally taking ten minutes to play this game before going back to work ffffff

 

[Crusayer]

>was hype to get bb today
>remembered i have work
>shop closes before I'm done

;~;

 

[Kuraudo]

>was hype to get bb today
>remembered i have work
>shop closes before I'm done

;~;

What time didja have work? I picked mine up from EB Games before going into work at 1

 

[Crusayer]

I forgot i had work today actually LOL.

So i didn't have time to pick up the game before i rushed to work.

 

[Kuraudo]

Where do you work? Maybe try and get off early? Or is the store closed already?

 

[Crusayer]

Post office lol.

I work the close shift so no way to leave early. I'll have to get it tomorrow.

/o\

 

[LivewiresXe]

Post office lol.

I work the close shift so no way to leave early. I'll have to get it tomorrow.

/o\

If you work at the Post Office, you should've gotten it before ANY of us.

 

[Crusayer]

I don't really understand that statement since game shipments don't go through the post office but the mail service lol.

(PO is the place where you send / (receive special) mail, not the place where people sort mail).

 

[LivewiresXe]

....Man...

And here I was thinking I was clever.

 

[lilseph]

Turtle and instant block until you have 4 stars, then punish any swords she throws out with your 10 frame ranged super.

rinse repeat


also taunt

What...?

Not sure if serious...

 

[Kuraudo]

What...?

Not sure if serious...

I haven't had much time to play, but I've got 3 challenges left to go for Ragna then I'mma do some story mode. Got a good feeling this time around.

 

[Shin Kaizoku]

Just got paid this week, so I should be picking this up fairly soon. Maybe tomorrow.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

This game is so frustrating. Why the **** did I buy the PS3 version? I can't input basic combos with this stupid D-Pad.

 

[lilseph]

I haven't had much time to play, but I've got 3 challenges left to go for Ragna then I'mma do some story mode. Got a good feeling this time around.

I've done all of Lambdas and done 1-10 with Relius so far. I'm trying super hard to learn him but its hard to go straight from Lambda to some one like Relius.

EDIT: Ryker, it won't be any better on an xbox pad. Learn to deal with it or use a stick.

 

[Kuraudo]

My only problem on some of the Ragna challenges is the timing on some of the cancels and especially the Inferno Divider in the corner. Trying to do the single-hit version of D or C instead of the 2-hit version... It makes you climb too high for the wall combo sometimes.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

EDIT: Ryker, it won't be any better on an xbox pad. Learn to deal with it or use a stick.

I'm a pad player. I'm an XBox player. I play a LOT of fighting games. I am good at them. It would be INFINITELY better playing with an XBox pad because the joystick is much easier for me to play on than the PS3's DPad.

 

[Lythium]

Then play with the PS3 joystick?

:I

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

One, it's not in the same position as the XBox joystick which makes it a whole new muscle memory. Two, it's simply not as good for inputting commands as the XBox joystick. The XBox DPad is complete and utter ****, but the joystick is muuuuuuch better than PS3.

 

[Rutger]

Then you just gotta deal with it.


Go into training mode and just do some 236/623 moves and whatever else you might need for a few hours, you'll get it down.

It will be a better use of time than complaining too. :3

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

What gets me is 360, 632146, and 236236 motions. The longer inputs are killing me.

That and being extremely frustrated with Jin's new combo base.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Ryker now has a john for when he loses to me.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Ah yes, I see it now. It was an elaborate and well thought out scheme. Well played, my friend, well played.

 

[Crusayer]

Good thing I play Makoto. Don't have to deal with any of that TK stuff like I have to on the keyboard `-`.

 

[Kuraudo]

Buy the 360 controller that has the changeable d-pad.

 

[Crusayer]

That d-pad still sucks apparently lol.

Why would you buy the PS3 version if you were originally a 360 player anyway?

 

[LivewiresXe]

That d-pad still sucks apparently lol.

Why would you buy the PS3 version if you were originally a 360 player anyway?

Well, if it helps, technically the PS3 version of Blazblue is the "Canonical Tournament Version".

And speaking of Extend, I checked Amazon and they shipped it out around 5pm last night. Delivery date still reads "March 5th", but I'm pretty sure it'll be here around Monday/Tuesday, so woo!