The Better Lucario Official Guide/Faq/Database (Now with More Lawl!)

[culexus・wau]

How bout deeze two:

 

[phi1ny3]

^Dude, did u make those?
Just saying since I know you've made good stuff in the past.

 

[culexus・wau]

I'm more of a Photomanipulation and Layers effects guy. I usually go through

232302843904739053745904574905749054384903840384038430438403 different places in search of lucario stuff :3

oh and

Xavant aint got **** on this >3

 

[Milln]

oh and

[IMG]http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj74/FlameWaveK/Lucario%20Signs/ILYMILLN.png

Xavant aint got **** on this >3

Kay is made out of awesome.

 

[tedward2000]

*sniff sniff*
I smell a new sig being made soon. Great finds Flamey.
-t2

 

[Aurasmash14]

where did you get those pics? i've been searching everywhere but cant find oilpainting tatoo and whitecario.

 

[culexus・wau]

where did you get those pics? i've been searching everywhere but cant find oilpainting tatoo and whitecario.

last time I saw those 2 it was on deviantart

 

[Mewtario]

Deviantart has practically every piece of fanart ever to float around on the internet.

Anyway, here's a bit for the guide:

Whatever you do...

DON'T DO ANYTHING I WOULD!




amirite?

 

[Milln]

Like not shield?

 

[Loota]

I found this practicing yesterday on Practice Mode.

If you're in the air jumping backwards towards an opponent and do... eh, what's it called where you turn around without any momentum with any aerial B-move? Anyways, after that you should have turned around and fall backwards facing your opponent while charging AS. I'm not sure if this has been discovered already but I think it's really useful for mindgames although it's very situational. My brother called me a f*cking cheater when I killed him with that :D

Sorry for crappy english, I hope you'll understand... Btw, my first post on Lucario Boards, yay? *_*

 

[Milln]

I found this practicing yesterday on Practice Mode.

If you're in the air jumping backwards towards an opponent and do... eh, what's it called where you turn around without any momentum with any aerial B-move? Anyways, after that you should have turned around and fall backwards facing your opponent while charging AS. I'm not sure if this has been discovered already but I think it's really useful for mindgames although it's very situational. My brother called me a f*cking cheater when I killed him with that :D

Sorry for crappy english, I hope you'll understand... Btw, my first post on Lucario Boards, yay? *_*

Known and already put to use. We call it "psuedo-sticking" around here since it's not quite B-Sticking. That's awesome that you figured it out yourself, however. Let us know if you find out anything else. <3

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Something wierd happened with me facing a Falco and a Snake recently.

When I wanted to try a force palm chaingrab, to mind game and mix up, I noticed when I did it a few times, I did it while standing still. I got three on snake before he broke out, and the falco flew far enough away I had to chase him with it.

I know FPCG isn't great and is easily escape able, but I'm curious if anyone else has done a long lasting standing one.

 

[Mewtario]

Like not shield?

Precisely.

 

[Aurasmash14]

Something wierd happened with me facing a Falco and a Snake recently.

When I wanted to try a force palm chaingrab, to mind game and mix up, I noticed when I did it a few times, I did it while standing still. I got three on snake before he broke out, and the falco flew far enough away I had to chase him with it.

I know FPCG isn't great and is easily escape able, but I'm curious if anyone else has done a long lasting standing one.

As in completely stationary? I did it once but only got 2 grabs and its nothing coz i was fighting Bowser.

 

[Loota]

Known and already put to use. We call it "psuedo-sticking" around here since it's not quite B-Sticking. That's awesome that you figured it out yourself, however. Let us know if you find out anything else. <3

Thanks I mess with Lucario in training mode very often so I always try to find something new. SCIENCE! is fun *_*

Is it known that Lucario can edgedrop to Wall Cling in FD without using any jumps? It's kinda useless though... I was still thinking if it could be used against characters that recover low like Marf? They don't likely expect you having still your second jump so you can midgame them into hell <_>

 

[oOJaseOo]

Isnt that asking to be stage spiked?

 

[Milln]

By a Dolphin Slash.

 

[Loota]

Isnt that asking to be stage spiked?

Well, depends of the character... =P Marf has two jumps so if he's recovering far then he can't stagespike you (I think) if he wants to get back on the stage. The ledge prevents Marf coming too close so his hitbox won't probably connect. Other characters that doesn't have such recovery can stagespike Luc much easier, like MK >_>

Forget that... Yes, it's true that Marf could stagespike you but if you're brave enough I could consider going for the gimp though there are better ways to gimp Marf. I just brought up a new possible way...

 

[oOJaseOo]

Well, depends of the character... =P Marf has two jumps so if he's recovering far then he can't stagespike you (I think) if he wants to get back on the stage. The ledge prevents Marf coming too close so his hitbox won't probably connect. Other characters that doesn't have such recovery can stagespike Luc much easier, like MK >_>

Forget that... Yes, it's true that Marf could stagespike you but if you're brave enough I could consider going for the gimp though there are better ways to gimp Marf. I just brought up a new possible way...

lol i think it would work if you jumped from the wall to the other side of him and baired the range and length of the bair could stage spike marth nicely that is if your brave like you say ^^

 

[tedward2000]

*brief Interjection*

Guys, Dair to Upsmash.
It doesn't work as well as one thinks. And yet, CPU's pull it off no problem.
Someone go trip Sakurai for making CPU's mess with peoples heads.
/is done
-t2

@marf comment
Wouldn't it just be better to get back on the stage entirely since the entire time marth is trying to get you close/off the edge? So wouldn't trying to play him off, just end up screwing yourself over?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

As in completely stationary? I did it once but only got 2 grabs and its nothing coz i was fighting Bowser.

I didn't move at all against either.

 

[Smexicario]

For some reason, I always fail epicly at wall clinging, even if I release the B button after the extremespeed input...

 

[Milln]

For some reason, I always fail epicly at wall clinging, even if I release the B button after the extremespeed input...

You can hold B all you want, but you need to hold towards the wall. o,o

Don't let go of the control stick. <3

 

[Browny]

only need to hold towards the wall as you hit it, you can let go after you land on it

 

[Ravener]

Great Guide!
Since, I recently picked up Lucario it made it really easier for me to learn his new moves and stuff

 

[Milln]

April 23rd, 2009- New Lucario Lucks. TRUE STORIES

Playing Lucario is too good.

 

[phi1ny3]

Milln...
If you ever do any more Inner Fires, could you do one on transitioning with nair/pivot grab? moar lucarios ought to do that.

 

[CrimsonxMiso]

Well I don't know if anyone has thought of this or not, but i thought
about a turn-around-shot. you fully charg your shot thn to evade or
catch your oponit by surpise you fire it and use the changing
momentum tech. If your to close to your rival then you will get hit by their attack
so only use as a surpise and keep in mind it will send you opisit the direction you are
facing then it will fire to counter balance.

Let me know what everyone thinks or if i need to explane better.

 

[Alus]

Well I don't know if anyone has thought of this or not, but i thought
about a turn-around-shot. you fully charg your shot thn to evade or
catch your oponit by surpise you fire it and use the changing
momentum tech. If your to close to your rival then you will get hit by their attack
so only use as a surpise and keep in mind it will send you opisit the direction you are
facing then it will fire to counter balance.

Let me know what everyone thinks or if i need to explane better.

explain better that makes no sense...

 

[Milln]

He's saying to psuedo-stick a charged aura sphere the other way. It's already known and put to use.

 

[Andrea]

hi ,
I would like to know more about lucario's chain grab ( FP, Uthrow ...)
for example if Lucario can CG fox ??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YYyxnYVe_4
thx

 

[Kitamerby]

hi ,
I would like to know more about lucario's chain grab ( FP, Uthrow ...)
for example if Lucario can CG fox ??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YYyxnYVe_4
thx

Lucario has no real chaingrabs of note. We may be able to uthrow CG Fox until like 20%, but that's basically two fair dairs, or a dthrow and its followup. Nothing big. FP chaingrab has its massive flaw, so that won't ever last long anyways if the opponent is well educated.

 

[tedward2000]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhkfHEC1v58

So Kita was talking to me/ pointing this out.
Just watch the video, and for you lazy bums. Lucario will sometimes use ES and bounce.

Whats this mean, instead of landing and taking the lag, they curve a bit so lucario will actually bounce, making the lag less and lucario traveling a bit more.

This is situational though, but it can be used for a safety measure.
Don't be hatin cause the lucario is playing like a Japaneses lucario, just look at the bouncin.
-t2

And yes the video is a YEAR old, but still, bouncing, look.

 

[Little Pink Cannibal]

Thanks for this post it really helped me. I normaly Kirby but i like Lucario because he better and funner. Can someone tell me whats a good way to ledge guard as him. Or even what a good way to start a match? And how to time your Aura sphere just right!

 

[Mewter]

Can someone tell me whats a good way to ledge guard as him.

ES to the ledge. You can do it from far away, and if you're quick enough, you'll make it to the edge before the other person. You might want to do it only when you're sure you won't get gimped trying to edgegaurd that way.

Or even what a good way to start a match?

Depends who you're fighting.

And how to time your Aura sphere just right!

That's for you to figure out practice.

I'm sure I seem like a guy that pops out of nowhere for some reason and I'm sure I'll get flamed.

 

[manhunter098]

The best time for an aura sphere really depends who you are fighting too. Ideally you want to shoot it so you can catch your opponents landing frames, but against some characters this is difficult because they either have reflectors, multiple jumps, or a recovery technique that doesn't leave them helpless.

Thats really the only best time to use an Aura Sphere, otherwise its a little more about what you think your opponent is going to respond with, or if they are going to respond at all.

This is regarding Fully Charged or relatively well charged Aura Spheres only though, baby Aura Spheres are a little less situational.

 

[tedward2000]

Oh, I was just playing Brawl+ for a long while. (got it working today at friends house, I'll soon have it)

Lucario isnt changed to the degree said. Sure he can do some other fancier stuff. Play style is just the same, his aerials are in my opinion, worse. You dont even need Nair anymore, and Dair loses usefulness.
Smashes are like, wiff>wiff>wiff> omghitnoway

I dunno, I wasn't impressed overall. But they did do some awesome works as well. (Black Falco has no pupils)
But I'm just bitter that Jack can now do all his fancy melee stuff, in brawl, and still kick our arses.
-t2

 

[phi1ny3]

Yeah, I think the only thing that's really, really changed in Brawl+ is ES, uthrow, aura modifier (kicks in earlier), and DT. Everything else practically acts just the way it was, with slight differences.

 

[tedward2000]

And even those changes are not all that useful, minus the Aura modifier.
Possibly the most needed change his upping lucario's run speed. No lemme re-phrase that, lucario's everything needs a boosted up speed. Namely smashes.

Brawl+ should be named, "Falcon's Return".
-t2

 

[phi1ny3]

Actually, I really liked the ES modifiers, but I do agree, everything needs moar speed, especially his jabs and such.