Ledge_g2
Smash Ace
Awsome thread, its giving me so many ideas to put into my style 
thx.
thx.
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The Better Lucario Official Guide/Faq/Database (Now with More Lawl!)
- Thread starter Milln
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FU^InSmash
Smash Cadet
dude use your aura sphere right after you fair him twice off the stage for the kill. it works so good. all you do is get him off the stage. jump out fair fair then aura sphere. it is great cuz it will kill him and it will slightly push you back toward the stage for recovery.
Aurasmash14
Smash Lord
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im pretty sure the lag will be enough for the opponent to dodge it.
There is. There's enough lag to where they can airdodge an nair if you mess up.
Browny
Smash Hater
You should add a pic like this to the
'Reasons to play as Lucario'
Which other character has a projectile bigger than Donkey Kong?
Ill try get a better pic tomorrow from a better angle... that is if you think a pic like that should be added
'Reasons to play as Lucario'
Which other character has a projectile bigger than Donkey Kong?
Ill try get a better pic tomorrow from a better angle... that is if you think a pic like that should be added
Browny
Smash Hater
thats what that AS is lol
except i was at 200 %
except i was at 200 %
Timbers
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It's a good way to read someone though. If you think they're going to immediately airdodge after the fairs because they expect a dair or something, AS will nab them. Sometimes they can't airdodge because they're too low and will kill themselves. etcetc.
Clever girl.
phi1ny3
Not the Mama
An Opponent on the business end of fair never is nice unless your like peach or something like that, and even then you can do some stuff with some risk reading.
btw, I've learned we have one really good thing that marth doesn't, we can do full-hop shenanigans much more safely, in fact I've been expirimenting with it all, and have got some good results. In fact, I almost always do full hop stuff on a D3 who's fishing for grabs and isn't taking to the air because they can almost never take advantage of your landing lag if you do ever do so, dair can still work (though you have to not be lazy) and although you trade off complete safety in fair -> nair, you can actually do fair -> fair on full hop, and not worry about landing lag if you time it right. I know this sounds controversial, but I tried this stuff on some of my friends with characters that normally get more solid and get harder to get hits in, and it works rather well.
My lucario feels like it's just having a holiday, I got my wii back, the boards are together, I'm finally doing AllisLawl double ladders/single ladders (even tho wifi is atrocious), and I feel like going on a Weasel Stomping day! Although I also just got done with Jury Duty today lol.
btw, I've learned we have one really good thing that marth doesn't, we can do full-hop shenanigans much more safely, in fact I've been expirimenting with it all, and have got some good results. In fact, I almost always do full hop stuff on a D3 who's fishing for grabs and isn't taking to the air because they can almost never take advantage of your landing lag if you do ever do so, dair can still work (though you have to not be lazy) and although you trade off complete safety in fair -> nair, you can actually do fair -> fair on full hop, and not worry about landing lag if you time it right. I know this sounds controversial, but I tried this stuff on some of my friends with characters that normally get more solid and get harder to get hits in, and it works rather well.
My lucario feels like it's just having a holiday, I got my wii back, the boards are together, I'm finally doing AllisLawl double ladders/single ladders (even tho wifi is atrocious), and I feel like going on a Weasel Stomping day! Although I also just got done with Jury Duty today lol.
Aurasmash14
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lol phil your on jury duty? awesome. oh and i dont see whats so controversial with your discovery. so we got something marth doesnt, its not as if theres an eruption about to happen.
Popertop
Smash Champion
marths fullhop shenanigans are pretty safe, as he can DS when he sees your grab come out
Timbers
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why are we getting compared to Marth in the first place
marths cant actually..react to grab frames lol. It's just anticipated that you're probably going to get punished if you land within a characters grabrange, and so you uB to A) save yourself and B) anticipate+capitalize on the likely punish.
Popertop
Smash Champion
you are drawing blanket generalizations, logic fail.
I've played Royr, he has Fair'd my shield, I grab, he doesn't up B immediately, but he will do it once he sees my hand go out for the grab.
Col. Stauffenberg
Smash Lord
**** Texans and their inhuman reflexes!
Timbers
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Popertop
Smash Champion
you have no idea.
Timbers
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its so fun laughing about all of this with all the other texas folk ahah
Popertop
Smash Champion
**** you you dumb ****ing ****
brawlkid riiiiight.
you probably ****ing suck *** at every game you play
brawlkid riiiiight.
you probably ****ing suck *** at every game you play
tedward2000
Smash Champion
Im not sure if he's being serious or being sarcastic.
but either way I'm still laughing.
-t2
Timbers
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you seem a bit aggravated LOL
phi1ny3
Not the Mama
lolol shun the nonbeliever!
Honestly tho, stop posting extremely negative nancy stuff, we may be lax, but as of now, it seems we don't have solid enough rep so we gotta STEP IT UP!
Oh, and trust me when I say marth isn't entirely stellar against someone who can actually vertically zone and bait for full hopping. Roy_R used to do it like crazy, and he got punished quite a lot for it (see also: vs. Azen in old matches), and after awhile, he didn't use it tons of times. Marth being right above someone is nearly never a good thing.
Aurasmash14
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This is one of the reasons we went fail in the tier list. we never get along.
Tee hee hee.
phi1ny3
Not the Mama
Milln, they're coming to take you away to the "Happy Hotel", and taking this thread there as well!
Run!
Aurasmash14
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Can you Revamp the Thread Milln? or get someone else to do it?
iRJi
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Already working on that. Infact, I am going to ask people to help me since its a community project. I will let you all know.
hough123
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I'll help in any way I can. I think that threads or questions that are frequently asked for, (KO percents, hardest match-ups, secondaries, etc.), should be inluded in the guide.
tedward2000
Smash Champion
Winds are picking up again.
*turns off the fan*
hough123
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Aurasmash14
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If we make a new guide can it be a Database? you know like the one the DDD's have.