The Battle for Power! (Matchmaking & Video Thread)

[moofpi]

Level Up Games
WQ
The One (GTB)vs Skorpio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fza-l-dWMAQ

 

[Opana]

Oh yeah forgot to share this here lol

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o8HFWWyL3Tk

Reminder I don't edit because I suck

 

[Gunblade789]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rJGMOkNZNU

Yo whats up my people!!! I am just putting this here for you all to enjoy. My Ganon is super rust so dont mind the input errors here and there.

 

[Ray_Kalm]

If anyone is interested in taking over this thread and could take good care of it, let me know here and Vermanubis could transfer the OP to you.

 

[zFlashyStyle]

Can't seem to find any good videos of Ganons from Japan.
Help!?

 

[adom4]

Gungnir's sets vs Taiheta (Lucas) and a Mega man is up on youtube, it's a good watch despite the quality:

 

[zFlashyStyle]

Where do you guys hang out to discuss MUs and such that's not on here?

 

[Opana]

I say this mu is annoying on twitter and adom tells me why it isn't

 

[Litany]

Where do you guys hang out to discuss MUs and such that's not on here?

We have a discord server. Follow the link below to smashcord.com, there is a collection character and other servers you can join.

http://smashcord.com

 

[Vermanubis]

The plumber gets his own plumbing done.

 

[MezzoMe]

^Didn't know that Vermanubis got included in the game.
At a first glance it looks like a complete clone of Ganon, wich makes perfectly sense but still, how much does he cost?

 

[Vermanubis]

^Didn't know that Vermanubis got included in the game.
At a first glance it looks like a complete clone of Ganon, wich makes perfectly sense but still, how much does he cost?

From SmashWiki: "It is commonly joked in the Smash community that Vermanubis is Ganondorf"

...Except it's not a joke.

 

[MezzoMe]

From SmashWiki: "It is commonly joked in the Smash community that Vermanubis is Ganondorf"

...Except it's not a joke.

Was it necessary to explain it? I thought that every Ganon main knew it. Then again, I also thought that everybody knew about his stomp being unable to ground teched.

 

[weare6789]

Made a short combo video with ganondorf.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwdjyfk_cJY&feature=youtu.be

 

[djk7877]

I don't like play against thieves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gC4XznHTgw

 

[Red Shirt KRT]

Any ideas about why this happened?

 

[adom4]

Any ideas about why this happened?

G&W's Up-B bounced him up a bit.

 

[adom4]

This video is a proof that our F-smash is indeed the best in the game

 

[Theosmeo]

This video is a proof that our F-smash is indeed the best in the game

lol that second one, reverse fsmash

 

[Koskinator]

I gotta say this rage mechanic is rather dope

 

[Ray_Kalm]

adom4 mgleed Provide the links for all the crew battles for me, I'll put them in the front page.

 

[adom4]

adom4 mgleed Provide the links for all the crew battles for me, I'll put them in the front page.

Spoiler

Spoiler

 

[mgleed]

adom4 mgleed Provide the links for all the crew battles for me, I'll put them in the front page.

Spoiler

 

[Ray_Kalm]

Added the above to the front page. Still looking for the Falco Crew battle (and the Doc Battle as soon as Gleed uploads it).

Any others we're missing?

I'll also update the outdated 1v1 videos in a bit.

 

[mgleed]

Added the above to the front page. Still looking for the Falco Crew battle (and the Doc Battle as soon as Gleed uploads it).

Any others we're missing?

I'll also update the outdated 1v1 videos in a bit.

Spoiler: Doc

Falco isn't uploaded on YT yet, though it's still available on McDareth's Twitch. https://www.twitch.tv/mcdareth/v/72458917

 

[SmashRacer]

A FFA consisting only of Warlock Punches

 

[adom4]

I uploaded a bunch of matches i've had against a great Rosa player on my channel :
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgfx2duuPJwNRxtuZOVFNBQ

 

[mgleed]

Here's the US/Canada vs. Japan crew battle (also to add to OP Ray_Kalm ):

 

[MezzoMe]

Here's the US/Canada vs. Japan crew battle (also to add to OP Ray_Kalm ):

What song did you use at 18:49? It sounds way too familiar

 

[Litany]

What song did you use at 18:49? It sounds way too familiar

I think it's the final boss theme from M&L: Paper Jam.

 

[MezzoMe]

I think it's the final boss theme from M&L: Paper Jam.

It actually was Dream Team's one: Adventure's End

 

[TM 023]

User name: TM 023
In-Game name: Harri/TM 023/Kowalski
3DS Friend Code: 2707-3014-1519 (mine is broken now :/)
Nintendo Network ID: Wii_U_e_demais
Country of Residence: Brazil
Palette Colour: Standard
Message: Ganon is too op for tier lists

It's never too late to join the community, I guess lol.

 

[mgleed]

Got bodied by this Zard yesterday in a long session on FG. I'm not at the top of my game right now by any means, but I don't feel far from it. This Zard adapted to me very well. I'll be reviewing the video as well, as I think this matchup will actually be helpful for identifying my weaknesses in my fundamentals, more than just my inexperience in the MU. If anyone has time and wants to provide feedback, at least on the latter half of the matches, I'd appreciate it! Feel free to speed up to 1.5x or so on YT if that helps. Thanks! (A couple who I'd enjoy hearing from, but no pressure: @A2ZOMG @Swoops adom4 @HeavyLobster )

 

[Koskinator]

I watched game 1 and it seems like you just aren't very experienced in the mu, that zard seems pretty run of the mill. Try to pick up on habits more, he missed tech on choke everytime and always did get up attack, could have gotten some nastier punishes if you'd picked up on that

 

[TM 023]

Hey. I made a ganon montage last month, with some of my highlights. Give it a look and tell me what you think .

 

[mgleed]

I watched game 1 and it seems like you just aren't very experienced in the mu, that zard seems pretty run of the mill. Try to pick up on habits more, he missed tech on choke everytime and always did get up attack, could have gotten some nastier punishes if you'd picked up on that

Thanks, but yeah, you gotta watch the later games. I caught on to the missed techs to getup attack (and he still didn't mix it up later, which was strange), but he got a ton better imo, esp. with edgeguarding and zoning. Try watching a couple in the middle.

 

[MezzoMe]

Got bodied by this Zard yesterday in a long session on FG. I'm not at the top of my game right now by any means, but I don't feel far from it. This Zard adapted to me very well. I'll be reviewing the video as well, as I think this matchup will actually be helpful for identifying my weaknesses in my fundamentals, more than just my inexperience in the MU. If anyone has time and wants to provide feedback, at least on the latter half of the matches, I'd appreciate it! Feel free to speed up to 1.5x or so on YT if that helps. Thanks! (A couple who I'd enjoy hearing from, but no pressure: @A2ZOMG @Swoops adom4 @HeavyLobster )

I see, he is that kind of For Glory player, I'm referring to the kind "Im gunna attak u so u don hit me". You can see that by how he threw random attacks in the air even where it was completely useless. This kind of playershave the urge of attacking you, no matter when or where, they have no perception of your options whatsoever and always attack where you are, never where you could be, the exception being when you were at the ledge where he withdrew, and you decided to go straight in his face, for some reason. Beside that you can see he attacks never considering what you can do, if you just put yourself out of the way of his aerials, he still woul've swinged in the air and be left wide open. This is the most blatand when he is in disadvantage, where he always does airdodge>attack, even if that means Down Bing at point blank like a ****ing idiot, or the jumping over your head and then Bairing when he is cornered, wich has the same amount of For Glory in it than the option before. Never considering the idea that you could shield and punish easy like np because he made attacks at point blank, he only focused on swinging his way out of disadvantage, nevermind that the concept of disadavantage is that options like this become easily punishable. Oh, and if you suspect a Side B, you can literally charge USmash, react to it and outspace him while remaining unscathed altogether, it's all about tempism, he was more prone to make fire blitzes when these would go over your hea, but not over USmash(again, only considering your position but not your options). What I said about him attacking ad nauseam repeats when you were on the ledge, where he kept mashing attacks toward your shield, resulting in him becoming very vulnerable to simply rolling behind him, depending on the timing he wouldeither throw one more swing in the air or raise his shield, so I'd say the best option in that case is Side B.
Like, really, instead of, you know, outspacing you and waiting for your reaction he mashed attacks hoping to cover random ledge options
Furthermore, he always jumps out of combos, without moving horizontally out of the way because "u attakd mii now I gan attak u"
I also think you should work on your DI

 

[TM 023]

Got bodied by this Zard yesterday in a long session on FG. I'm not at the top of my game right now by any means, but I don't feel far from it. This Zard adapted to me very well. I'll be reviewing the video as well, as I think this matchup will actually be helpful for identifying my weaknesses in my fundamentals, more than just my inexperience in the MU. If anyone has time and wants to provide feedback, at least on the latter half of the matches, I'd appreciate it! Feel free to speed up to 1.5x or so on YT if that helps. Thanks! (A couple who I'd enjoy hearing from, but no pressure: @A2ZOMG @Swoops adom4 @HeavyLobster )

So, I watched ultil 28 minutes (I'll watch the rest), and I saw somethings there:

1. You should have used your grabs more against this zard. Yeah, you can't follow up zard after a dthrow due to his weight, but fthrow and bthrow are fine to put him offstage.
2. Ledge trumps are amazing against zard. His hurtbox while grabbing the ledge is so big that you can fsmash, ftilt, dtilt, fair or even ganoncide while onstage.
3. Zard was always using an attack to land onstage and after getting hit. Shield grabs would work fine.
4. When you were offstage, zard was always next to the ledge throwing some aerials. Bypassing the ledge with Up B would also work.
5. And after flame choke, zard was always doing a get up attack. You got this after some battles, but it's good to remember.

 

[Koskinator]

1st BotanicSage
2nd Dregoon
3rd Emperor
4th Lordmix

Rip koopas

 

[thechoznjuan]

User name: thechoznjuan
In-Game name: thechozn / IT'S A ME
3DS Friend Code: 2981-8105-7158
(Wii U) Nintendo Network ID: thechoznjuan
Country of Residence: Utah, USA
Palette Colour: 7
Message: I've been in competitive smash for a little over a year, but I just recently started taking it to the next level by studying frames and matchups and what not. I also main Mario, but I really want to get good with Ganon. I'm still kinda new to maining Ganon, but I'd like to learn as much as I can. Don't be afraid to call me up!