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[shaSLAM]

we tired of being bes so we seldom talk about it anymore.

foreal old news

kinda wish NC would take that title from us aint happenin tho wonder why

 

[Saki-]

Must I say more?

Anyway with the latest Mobile tournament we're nearing our final month for a tournament for updates. <.<.... Time for biased placings again.

 

[TheLastCacely]

Lolroflmao

 

[shaSLAM]

are we electing panel again and stuff? or staying with the old?
id like to be on it if we do ive been to every tourney in state this season i think. id be serious bout it im really getttin into having an accurate portayal of AL PR

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

No one's been to every one in this state because no one came to Dauphne except us and none of us have been to all of them.

 

[shaSLAM]

what is a daphne?

 

[Saki-]

It was the mobile tournament~

Well Panel wise....I'd like to say stick to the old, but I'm starting to think we're going to rely more on people whom are not on the current panel instead of people who are our currents. More input from everyone is going to be needed until our tournaments become more frequent.

We will be using any oustide tournament that any from Alabama has partaken in. Yes this includes MLG.

I'll gather threads and such, but for now I'd like opinions on the current top 10 and how it should be altered (placings, whom should be removed, whom should be added etc).

 

[shaSLAM]

only thing i got is munkus hasnt been to a tourney in a while and elev8 said hes quiting.
i need to see results to determine placings. i cant recall everything clearly.

i think nice1 been doing good though and zero prolly going up and cheap has been getting gayed.

 

[Saki-]

Yeah Munkus' spot isn't looking very safe right now and Elev8 has announced the possibility of not being able to play when he said he'd spend more time on the weekends with his girlfriend. I wouldn't say his end is near just yet.

However! With the laaaarge gaps between tournaments in Alabama I really can't justify inactivity. I mean some people just can't make it to tournaments in Georgia and Mobile. We need to find a nice and easy venue and make sure we're able to host the tournament on that day (Mc Killa....) and that it's convienant for the community.

But that's a problem that will be fixed rather shortly. Gamebox making the move to try and host tournaments monthly, and Serin has the ability to host tournaments in an area thats convienant for Alabama (distance wise). It's up to us really :3

Anyway I've come down to a few final options
1.Cut the PR down to top 5 only
2.Delay the update until after Spring Break
3.Update PR via result points
4.Let the community decide as a whole using top 10 opinions (the usual Q.Q)

The update will be done in December unless option 2 is favored *sigh* I should have worked harder on this lol

 

[shaSLAM]

yeah i like top 5 kola.
and yeah. inactivity is like Al's middle name so really i cant really dismiss anyone for being inactive.
because if someone shows up to one tourney a year here, thats pretty much an average activty in AL.

and yes, use a point system. its what FL does and they are maaaaaaad legit as balllllls mad legit :D lol

 

[*Cam*]

yeah i like top 5 kola.
and yeah. inactivity is like Al's middle name so really i cant really dismiss anyone for being inactive.
because if someone shows up to one tourney a year here, thats pretty much an average activty in AL.

and yes, use a point system. its what FL does and they are maaaaaaad legit as balllllls mad legit :D lol

I agree with this.

 

[Saki-]

Top 5 would be looking more like this post update. But that would be pretty biased eh?

Reflex
Elev8
Billy
George
Will

 

[I SEE YOU]

Top 5 would be looking more like this post update. But that would be pretty biased eh?

Reflex
Elev8
Billy
George
Will

I think George has beaten Billy head to head more often. I wish will lived closer and was able to go to tournaments, but he hasn't been to one in awhile, so i wouldn't put him @ 5. I think you should look @ Rag. He goes to tournaments (he, ryker, and jin travels to every Auburn tournament) and he does well. Shaslam would probably be right on the outskirts of a top 5 too. We should just throw some results up and compare.

 

[Saki-]

Hmm, well the first page is updated with links to the results that Alabama has partaken in.

Billy beat George at the latest Gamebox, it could be 1-1 for them. :V


Edit:

Thoughts on top 10
I made a few notes, I'm not quite finished yet but this is what I believe the bottom 5 would look like

Zero_Gamer
Cheap Peach
Slam
Ragnarok


10th place could be argued with Serin,Kola,and Janitor.


I'll probably tally points with results to add to my thoughts. These were just done from who beat who's, my general knowledge of the players themselves, and notable oos victories.

 

[I SEE YOU]

Top 5 would be looking more like this post update. But that would be pretty biased eh?

Reflex
Elev8
Billy
George
Will

After looking @ results, this is pretty accurate. Billy has placed better than George more consistently. I didn't know Will went to the Gamebox tournament, so technically he's @ the average tournament attendance. Rag and Slam attend more tournaments so i would be partial to adding them, but it's not my decision. More ppl need to get on here and figure out what's going to happen.

 

[Saki-]

Yeah more input would be lovely

make sure to check out my edited post if you have the time

 

[Purple]

Everyone on that top 5 comes to GA consistently.

There is meaning in that.

 

[Saki-]

Reflex,Elev8,Billy, and George yes

Will, not so much

Anyway the Bottom 5 is going to be pretty difficult because it begins to be done mostly by assumption. Not to mention theres a pretty noticable skill gap from the top 5 and to some degree the bottom 5. Our scarce in state tournaments isn't going to make this any easier either....

So bottom 5, I've pretty much confirmed in my list the 6th spot. But I've revamped the other places a bit. I believe we need to argue the following spots with the following players (others are free to give different input whenever)

6th.Zero_Gamer
7th.Slam,Ragnarok loser argues 8th with Serin and Cheap
8th Serin,Cheap (loser from 7th) Losers argue 9th
9th ^
10th is argued with the remainder and Janitor, Aloha, and Kola
(example of what I'd like to debate after all lists are put together)

once more. This is simply my list. Please make your own if you do not agree with mine.

After the lists are put together we'll final it up with adding points from results and oos wins against other state PRs.

My finished top 10

1.Reflex
2.Elev8
3.Billy
4.George
5.Will
6.Zero_Gamer
7.Ragnarok
8.Slam
9.Serin
10.Janitor

#6.
Why-
Well our constent matches in the Birmingham crew made it clear that Zero is far better than both Cheap and myself. Using the assumption factor I placed him above Slam and Ragnarok. Why so? Lucario doesn't have the worst matchup to Metaknight, but if things look grim he's going to play to win during dittos. In the past he's shown great performance against the bottom 5 and has even given George a few losses. He's a really smart player that uses his camping to kill momentum, but also prevents any hype on his side.

#7 Ragnarok
Deciding Factor: Results from tournaments & Victory over Slam at Ausom 2

I've never seen this guy tbh. I don't know how he plays nor his matchup experience. I'll simply have to judge from what I read. Ragnarok is voted Mobile's best player, yet he has yet to be recognized on the PR for the lack of being noticed by previous panelist & the majority of the smash crew outside of Mobile. I could probably scrap together a few more results to help my arguement with a little help with the mobile smash crew. Going on a whim and assuming that this Metaknight might be able to beat Cheap's Peach (He was also more consistent of going to tournaments than Cheap).

#8 ShaSlam

*note* Ugh I haven't seen Slam play at all this season either. My views of him are pretty much biased assumptions from last season.

After comparing the wins and losses of both players it only came down to the match he and Ragnarok played. Slams placings also puts him above Cheap. In the past he and Cheap went even with each other due to matchups. Slam, now a mk main, will probably have an edge for the same reason.

#9 Serin
A great player that is constantly plagued with inactivity. His tournament attendance was fairly nice. From his attempt to start the season with the Montgomery tournament, to his finish at Ausom 2. He has the green light for that reason despite his...mediocre placings. Using the assumption factor I believe he'd give Zero,Janitor, and Myself a difficult time.

#10 Janitor
Terribly difficult choice to make. I narrowed it down to Myself, Cheap, and Janitor. If we were going by activity, I had the advantage. If we were going by improvement and whom could give the remainder of the PR a difficult time, Janitor would have the advantage but is by far the most inactive for the PR list. Yet Cheap consistently beat Janitor last season. However! In the only set they've played this season Janitor emerged victorious. Yet, Janitor later ending up losing to Aloha. A player the remainder of the Vestavia crew has beaten. Cheap also beats me slightly more than I beat him.

plus it's just rude for me to rank myself higher than people I know I'm not better than. ;P

Alas making a solid PR will probably not be an option due to the scattered and lacking tournaments. Top 5 seems like the most viable option. Alas I'd like to recognize those whom tried hard this season.


Well there's my list. I'd like to see more

 

[*Cam*]

To help people out...

AUSOM 2 Results:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=288647&highlight=ausom

Vulcan Gamebox VI Results:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=285837&highlight=alabama

Um, what other tournaments am I missing? I couldn't find the results from the Daphne tournament.

 

[Saki-]

Uhh I've got it handled on the second post on the first page

 

[*Cam*]

Oh, I missed that completely.

 

[_Keno_]

The AL pr is almost becoming nonsense. I think we should narrow it down to top 8.

Kola, despite your nooby not attending tournaments attitude, you are still better than the bottom 6 you listed.
Also, your rankings and reasons are terrible. I do feel that Zhero_Gamer deserves higher than 10th this time around though.

And I definitely dont want to be ranked, though I probably wouldnt be anyways. Contrary what Kola has said, I've traveled oos more than 75% of the alabama players this season.

My inevitable decline in brawl activity, and even in melee, will keep me off this list. I'm pretty much done after january. I'm moving on to a better game like SC2, and this spring some new MMOs.
Expect to see me at anime conventions and any gamebox tournaments though

 

[Saki-]

ouchie

xP okay so maybe my reasons were scrubby. But I'm pretty sure that I can't beat Janitor, Zero, and metaknight's that know what they're doing. This season I've gone 0-3 with Metaknights. The players are just picking up faster on the metaknight meta-game faster than I am learning my character.

I'm all for making it top 8 too, but I'm leaning more to top 5.

More input would help to the deciding factor. <.<;; and if you know anything to make it with less non sense let us know. I'd like to get these things fixed for once.

 

[*Cam*]

ouchie

xP okay so maybe my reasons were scrubby. But I'm pretty sure that I can't beat Janitor, Zero, and metaknight's that know what they're doing. This season I've gone 0-3 with Metaknights. The players are just picking up faster on the metaknight meta-game faster than I am learning my character.

I'm all for making it top 8 too, but I'm leaning more to top 5.

More input would help to the deciding factor. <.<;; and if you know anything to make it with less non sense let us know. I'd like to get these things fixed for once.

I can sympathize with regards to your Metaknight problem. After AUSOM 1, I felt pretty confident against Slam, but I was cooked once he switched from Wario. I think I got two stocked the first match and JV two stocked the second match. And Ragnarok also got significantly tougher at AUSOM 2 than he was at AUSOM 1. I only played him in friendlies at AUSOM 2, but he was beating me consistently. I think if we did have another top 10, we would have more Metaknights than ever before. Even though Dan is off the radar, he also uses Metaknight a lot, and Billy has recently picked him up "for fun." Kismet has been playing him more and more. I think the time has come that we actually need to learn this matchup in Alabama.

I would just do top 5 with a points-based system so we don't have to go through the drama of a panel. I wouldn't do the points based strictly on placing either because people get stupid easy brackets or byes in tournament a lot.

I'm also not sure your reasons are all that great for your top 10, but I can agree to disagree. Instead of arguing about it, lets just do the point system and let the chips fall where they will.

I wish I could go to more tournaments, but I have issues driving in big cities like Birmingham and Montgomery, so I'll just have to keep up with everyone's progress on smashboards and at the Auburn tournaments.

 

[I SEE YOU]

We should do a top 5 and focus our PR on head to head IN STATE matchups. That's why it's important to keep brackets for our tournaments as well as results.

 

[Zero_Gamer]

The top 5 is so obvious though and will likely never change. Georgia area is too good and they have the luxury of practicing with the amazing players. Bottom 5 + George doesn't have that luxury and I fear won't get to the same level without a miracle, regardless of potential.

Also, Kola > Cheap Peach. I don't know about Janitor though.

 

[stealth3654]

We just need to hold more smash fest like GA does

 

[Saki-]

Top 5 has changed slightly in the past few updates.

We really don't have the data to make top 10.

Point wise would result in this (based on placings)

Reflex
Elev8
Billy
George
Ragnarok

or if you'd like I could make a points system on PR members beat. but that'd leave Rag without any shot at all.

If we were going by the top 5 in the state then we'd be going back to my top 5 list
Reflex
Elev8
Billy
George
Will

 

[*Cam*]

Just do it so that you can gets points for beating non-PR people, but it's less points than beating a PR person.

 

[Zero_Gamer]

So what would we do about lack of activity, even if that person/those persons are obviously better?

 

[*Cam*]

It doesn't matter if they are obviously better if they don't go to tournaments. You have to go to tournaments to prove you are still better. We could set a tournament and say anything before that tournament won't be considered for this update if that helps.

 

[TheLastCacely]

the thread titles makes me believe a form of trash talk is going down

but the definition of salabamer combo eludes me.

 

[Zero_Gamer]

The Salabamer is a creature of elegance; a creature of wisdom; a creature of power. The most powerful combo that could possibly exist and its discovery is accredited to the state of Alabama and manner in which this attack is carried out, much like the salamander - cunning and vicious.

 

[stingers]

nc > al

forever

 

[Saki-]

It doesn't matter if they are obviously better if they don't go to tournaments. You have to go to tournaments to prove you are still better. We could set a tournament and say anything before that tournament won't be considered for this update if that helps.

Hmm

Well it would make it more right than accurate. If that is what the state wants then yes.

Are we going to add additional points to the list created by the panel too?

 

[Zero_Gamer]

I propose we have a combined power rankings list for AL and NC.

I'm not sure how that would work, though, since we'd just paste NC PRs to the bottom of our own PRs.

 

[stingers]

whats your record with me again zero? 0-15?

 

[Zero_Gamer]

I don't remember. Although I do recall getting better as soon as I moved here.

You gonna try to get the crowd against me when we play?

 

[TheLastCacely]

whats ur record with me zero?

0-1?

yea.... im hard body.

 

[Zero_Gamer]

lolKeith

Ya got me.

You've beaten me every time I challenge you to a being black contest.

Too bad this thread is about Smash and you're so offtopic.