The 2GGC: Civil War Discussion Thread

[Fenny]

Kome 2-1 Tweek

Two Shulks in top 96

Rejoice you Monado Boys and Girls

 

[Deleted member]

and people are still saying Shulk is worse than Ike

 

[Ziodyne 21]

A Shulk beat one of the best solo Cloud's at top level.

My life is complete now.

Who invalidates who now ya spiky haired dingbat!

 

[|RK|]

Granny Smith(?) > Venia


EDIT: Wave A Top 96 begins

Oh damn, I knew he was good lol, but I didn't expect this. I was warming up w/ him and Zyro this morning.

 

[Laken64]

Looks like shulk will be the hot topic of the meta thread with all these upsets

 

[TDK]

I love how as soon as Nicko gets an amazing upset Kome gets one right back

 

[T4ylor]

Meteor is an SOnic, not Ryu


EDIT: Remzi> Tyrant

I was told he used his secondary Ryu to take it

 

[soniczx123]

A Shulk beat a Cloud at top level.

My life is complete now

Shulk actually does decently against Cloud cause of his larger range and the ability to keep up with Cloud on the ground and edgeguarding him is easy.

 

[ShadowGuy1]

Sucks that's Kome faces Fatality in Top 96. FPS2 did not make it look good at all for Kome.

 

[Deleted member]

Sucks that's Kome faces Fatality in Top 96. FPS2 did not make it look good at all for Kome.

Kome could've gotten notes from Fatality or learned the MU since then. Tremendo Dude got notes from him when he faced him at Smash Con.

 

[Minordeth]

Meteor is an SOnic, not Ryu


EDIT: Remzi> Tyrant

Oh, I retract my statement until Leo loses to another Ryu.

But Kome over Tweek... whew...

 

[TDK]

Saj times out scizor on FD to take the set 2-1

Good stuff to scizor though, 97th is definitely solid

It's so awesome to see Link and especially Shulk making strides

 

[TTTTTsd]

There were people who thought (as of now) that Ike > Shulk, based on current trends?

I mean not like being ranked over Ike is the greatest of accomplishments but.....huh?

 

[Deleted member]

There were people who thought (as of now) that Ike > Shulk, based on current trends?

I mean not like being ranked over Ike is the greatest of accomplishments but.....huh?

I dunno, it's pretty common opinion in the metagame thread.

I've thought that he's better than Ike for months now.

 

[Minordeth]

Wonderbreads Mac kept it close with Zero's Sheik right up until game 3. And then Zero murdered him forever and ever. 3-0.

 

[TTTTTsd]

I dunno, it's pretty common opinion in the metagame thread.

I've thought that he's better than Ike for months now.

I don't see it in the modern age tbh. I mean the argument could've been feasibly made about 3-4 months ago, especially a year ago, but now? Just seems strange to me. Ike has similar issues but he lacks a mixup mechanic (a gimmick, if you will) and while he has better frame data he also gets gimped much easier.

I think the gap between the two characters will only grow unless more Ikes start going around besides like, Ryo. I don't think Ike is a dead end character either but....travel!

 

[FeelMeUp]

Ike vs Shulk is a pointless argument. Feels the same as when people argue Puff vs Ganon.
I don't think anyone really cares about which character is better.

 

[TTTTTsd]

Ike vs Shulk is a pointless argument. Feels the same as when people argue Puff vs Ganon.
I don't think anyone really cares about which character is better.

I'm struggling to see the point you're conveying? Nothing wrong with discussion beyond the top echelon of characters. It's thought provoking to go outside of the usual bubble of discussion, IMO.

 

[Nidtendofreak]

I'll wait for Shulk's Palutena-like surge to die down. Same pattern, same song and dance. Will probably last roughly the same amount of time, meaning it will stop roughly a month or two before the next tier list comes out.

Until then its entertaining to watch. Shulk is fun to see in action.

 

[ARISTOS]

I'll wait for Shulk's Palutena-like surge to die down. Same pattern, same song and dance. Will probably last roughly the same amount of time, meaning it will stop roughly a month or two before the next tier list comes out.

Until then its entertaining to watch. Shulk is fun to see in action.

Shulk is a lot more interesting and complex than Palutena ever was

 

[NotLiquid]

Apparently Vash beat Pugwest 2-1 but the score was reversed by the pool captain since Pugwest called foul on Vash's coach as they had a stray pair of instances shouting "play it safe" mid-match.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spo14t

 

[Deleted member]

I'm struggling to see the point you're conveying? Nothing wrong with discussion beyond the top echelon of characters. It's thought provoking to go outside of the usual bubble of discussion, IMO.

I agree myself.

If anything the two can be compared because they're basically the poster boys for low-mid swordsmen that have... really big swords.

I'll wait for Shulk's Palutena-like surge to die down. Same pattern, same song and dance. Will probably last roughly the same amount of time, meaning it will stop roughly a month or two before the next tier list comes out.

Until then its entertaining to watch. Shulk is fun to see in action.

I dunno. Palutena's hype never reached the same highs as Shulk is right now. Not to mention he's been doing well ever since GOML 2016.

Though knowing you, it'll be hard to stray how you feel. You underestimate how passionate Shulk mains are about their character.

 

[NairWizard]

I'm struggling to see the point you're conveying? Nothing wrong with discussion beyond the top echelon of characters. It's thought provoking to go outside of the usual bubble of discussion, IMO.

Agree.

None of the discussion we have about any character is at all relevant. It doesn't matter who #1 is or who #50 is. We just discuss characters because we enjoy it, full stop.

Also, I predicted that ZeRo would get upset only because @Das Koopa jinxed him by saying that it was extremely unlikely given his pool.

 

[Minordeth]

WaDi vs Larry hurts my soul. WaDi is so close to being a top tier player. From what I've seen of him versus the other explosive top tier player (Nairo) he just has to make a few minor adjustments in his play to be a consistent contender.

Aaaand just kidding. He's beasting on Larry right now.

 

[TDK]

Skorpio 2-1 Tyrant

Mr. Con Con > ScAtt

 

[ARGHETH]

And now for a Robin ditto
yay

 

[soniczx123]

I'll wait for Shulk's Palutena-like surge to die down. Same pattern, same song and dance. Will probably last roughly the same amount of time, meaning it will stop roughly a month or two before the next tier list comes out.

Until then its entertaining to watch. Shulk is fun to see in action.

You don't seem to be a fan of bad characters making a splash and potentially rising, unless it's Ike.

 

[Deleted member]

You don't seem to be a fan of bad characters making a splash and potentially rising, unless it's Ike.

Hey, are you implying Shulk is bad fam? :^)

M would not like to hear this

 

[Minordeth]

Larry is so good at adapting. Catching WaDi overrelying on Nair and predictable ledge play. WaDi got caught doing Drop>Uair off the ledge waaaay too much in game five. He did it literally three times in a row and got punished all three times. Ughhhh.

Lurr over WaDi 3-2.

Edit: one of the key differences between Aba and a WaDi is that Aba has better conversions off of Nair and is more willing to spam Dtilt and Shadow ball for spacing and safety.

WaDi is excellent at airdodging avoidance, but he started panicking at the ledge and went too much on autopilot.

 

[TDK]

Anyone want to talk about Ven's 65th with Solo Zelda?

 

[Deleted member]

Anyone want to talk about Ven's 65th with Solo Zelda?

it's pretty cool he made it in top 96, especially for someone as limited as Zelda

 

[FeelMeUp]

What the **** even is Bayonetta.

 

[NotLiquid]

Best character in the game guys

https://clips.twitch.tv/PrettySingleHerbsHeyGirl

 

[ぱみゅ]

Apparently Vash beat Pugwest 2-1 but the score was reversed by the pool captain since Pugwest called foul on Vash's coach as they had a stray pair of instances shouting "play it safe" mid-match.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spo14t

These coaching rules are pretty dumb imho.
Shouting tips is something anyone in the audience can do, and it's not like the opponent can't catch something from there, too.

 

[Minordeth]

What the **** even is Bayonetta.

Yeah... captain Zack... is a savage.

And so is Mr E and his Lucina double footstool to mangle M2K's Cloud game 1.

 

[Nu~]

So captain Zack just 0-death'd kameme and he died at 37%...

Why is Marvel being showcased on the smash 4 stage??

 

[TDK]

https://clips.twitch.tv/NaiveSquareBulgogiStrawBeary

Dark Pit does something for once: Episode 2

 

[Minordeth]

Dark Pit better than Sheik confirmed.

 

[NotLiquid]

Every time I'm watching CaptainZack play it just feels like he's playing with infinite jump hacks on

 

[Fenny]

Why is it that when you're playing Zack and he's at the ledge, you're still at a disadvantage

He's like a living breathing hitbox, Kameme couldn't touch him at the ledge to save his life

Every time I'm watching CaptainZack play it just feels like he's playing with infinite jump hacks on

He uses that third jump glitch like it's a regular part of her moveset, it's insane