The 2GGC: Civil War Discussion Thread

[Illuminose]

It's time for the most stacked tournament of the year thus far. 47/50 PGR and top talent from around the world will be in attendance.

stream schedule: http://imgur.com/kmInzms
stream links: twitch.tv/2ggaming twitch.tv/esasmash

bracket link: https://smash.gg/tournament/2ggc-civil-war/events/wii-u-singles/brackets/62978

projected pools graphics, made by kuda:
https://twitter.com/cooder_ssb4/status/844956659130646529
https://twitter.com/cooder_ssb4/status/844956730664505344
https://twitter.com/cooder_ssb4/status/844956775312871424
https://twitter.com/cooder_ssb4/status/844956819567009792

Spoiler: Upsets

EVERYTHING

 

[ligersandtigons]

which pgr ppl arent attending?

 

[TDK]

Taiheta, KEN, and Hyuga.

Illuminose it's 47/50, not 45.

 

[Ziodyne 21]

Salem / Mew2King 2-0 ZeRo / Nairo

Bayo and Cloud look absolutely ridiculous as a doubles team.Salem and M2K showing some great teamwork there.
Interesting how Salem kept using Witch Twist on Mew2King offstage to get him back onstage when he would normally not make it

 

[OverTime]

ANTi & Larry Lurr 2-0 Komorikiri and Ranai

They looked like they just separated the two and one the 1v1 MU a lot. ANTi and Larry don't have the best synergy not a lot of team combos polished. ANTi even messed up a throw to Finishing Touch.

I wonder how far it'll take them.

 

[Fenny]

https://clips.twitch.tv/TardyMoistRingNerfBlueBlaster

Double Cloud....

 

[Yonder]

I nominate we change the name "doubles" to "Clouds"

"Hey man, those Clouds brackets were insane!"

"Yeah, Did you see the Cloud vs Cloud vs Cloud vs Cloud in the Clouds finals? They really pushed the...Limit!"

 

[OverTime]

Has there been a quadruple or even triple cloud set played already?

 

[TDK]

So I left for an hour and came back to VoiD getting 2-stocked by Trela's Mii Swordfighter.

What?

 

[Wintermelon43]

So I left for an hour and came back to VoiD getting 2-stocked by Trela's Mii Swordfighter.

What?

Wait wait wait what???

 

[Game7a1]

https://clips.twitch.tv/SingleCaringMuleDuDudu
Here's a clip of both stocks being taken.
(I would have never imagined Swordfighter's F-Tilt being used as countering a get-up option.)

 

[Wintermelon43]

Also, I thought singles was starting tomorrow?

 

[Yonder]

So I left for an hour and came back to VoiD getting 2-stocked by Trela's Mii Swordfighter.

What?

Here I thought this was just my early drinking making me see things.

That's pretty boss.

 

[Game7a1]

And with that loss, there goes any chances of a Mii Saga with Free Mii moves. Oh well. Trela put up a nice showing.

 

[ShadowGuy1]

Also, I thought singles was starting tomorrow?

It's for the April Saga round robin, which is now Greninja Saga.

EDIT: and it was Vs Voids Roy

 

[Illusion.]

Time to finally go to a Saga.

 

[FullMoon]

Time to finally go to a Saga.

Go for me bro because I won't be getting out of Brazil anytime soon

 

[FeelMeUp]

People called me crazy for calling + the best team in the game, but it's really been showing up both here and at the last tourney.

 

[DanGR]

People called me crazy for calling + the best team in the game, but it's really been showing up both here and at the last tourney.

Not everyone ^^

https://smashboards.com/threads/4br...ive-impressions.440784/page-203#post-21598822

 

[NotLiquid]

Is there any particular reason why Marss drops his first stock with Lucario in Doubles?

 

[TDK]

Is there any particular reason why Marss drops his first stock with Lucario in Doubles?

To get bonus Aura.

 

[BSP]

People called me crazy for calling + the best team in the game, but it's really been showing up both here and at the last tourney.

I still think Mario and Diddy are close, but we really saw the power of sheik's handoffs to Cloud. Doesn't matter how sheik grabs you, Cloud can kill you for it.

Immaculate doubles play in that GFs, it was a pleasure to watch.

Side note: not a fan of gunblade's long hair lol

 

[Das Koopa]

Is there any particular reason why Marss drops his first stock with Lucario in Doubles?

Aura

but as plainly demonstrated it's a terrible idea

 

[~ Gheb ~]

It's an old strat from Brawl that no longer works in smash 4.

 

[ShadowGuy1]

SOME stuff not bracket related but still interesting

Fuwa3-2Pugwestin a MM I believe. They said it was last Hit last Stock so maybe Fuwa got more Marth MU practice after FP?

Hikaru>Tyrantin what I believe was a serious friendly? Hard to tell based off his twee but Ik Hikaru won in a Bo5 and that Tyrant hates Upthrow Comboes.

 

[Das Koopa]

pools predictions

Spoiler: Pool A1

ZeRo (To Top 96 Winners) > DKwill (To Top 96 Losers)
Dyr (To Top 96 Winners) > Earth (To Top 96 Losers)
Zephyr (To Top 96 Losers)
ImHip (To Top 96 Losers)

Predicted upsets: Dyr > Earth, Zephyr > Xzax

Spoiler: Pool A2

Ally (To Top 96 Winners) > Charliedaking (To Top 96 Losers)
Locus (To Top 96 Winners) > Mr. E (To Top 96 Losers)
DJ Fliphop (To Top 96 Losers)
Vinnie (To Top 96 Losers)

Predicted upsets: Charliedaking > Vinnie, DJ Fliphop > Jtails, Locus > Mr. E

Spoiler: Pool A3

Dabuz (To Top 96 Winners) > False (To Top 96 Losers)
WaDi (To Top 96 Winners) > MVD (To Top 96 Losers)
Luhtie (To Top 96 Losers)
Aarvark (To Top 96 Losers)

Predicted upsets: Luhtie > Fuwa.

Spoiler: Pool A4

Mr. R (To Top 96 Winners) > Mew2King (To Top 96 Losers)
9B (To Top 96 Winners) > John Numbers (To Top 96 Losers)
Braixen (To Top 96 Losers)
Mr. ConCon (To Top 96 Losers)

Note: Ryuga could not attend.

Spoiler: Pool A5

Larry Lurr (To Top 96 Winners) > FOW (To Top 96 Losers)
Zinoto (To Top 96 Winners) > Nietono (To Top 96 Losers)
Sonido (To Top 96 Losers)
Captain L (To Top 96 Losers)

Predicted upsets: Sonido > Zex

Spoiler: Pool A6

Salem (To Top 96 Winners) > Eon (To Top 96 Losers)
Shuton (To Top 96 Winners) > JK (To Top 96 Losers)
Slither2Hunter (To Top 96 Losers)
Angel Cortes (To Top 96 Losers)

Predicted upsets: S2H > Karna

Spoiler: Pool A7

Tyroy (To Top 96 Winners) > Kirihara (To Top 96 Losers)
ESAM (To Top 96 Winners) > Shoyo James (To Top 96 Losers)
Raffi-X (To Top 96 Losers)
Venom (To Top 96 Losers)

Predicted upsets: Tyroy > Kirihara

Spoiler: Pool A8

Kameme (To Top 96 Winners) > iStudying (To Top 96 Losers)
Captain Zack (To Top 96 Winners) > Zenyou (To Top 96 Losers)
8BitMan (To Top 96 Losers)
ScAtt (To Top 96 Losers)

Spoiler: Pool B1

MKLeo (To Top 96 Winners) > T (To Top 96 Losers)
6WX (To Top 96 Winners) > GrimTurtle (To Top 96 Losers)
K9sbruce (To Top 96 Losers)
NAKAT (To Top 96 Losers)

Predicted upsets: GrimTurtle > NAKAT, T > K9sbruce

Spoiler: Pool B2

Nairo (To Top 96 Winners) > Saj (To Top 96 Losers)
Javi (To Top 96 Winners) > Rich Brown (To Top 96 Losers)
Venia (To Top 96 Losers)
Shaky (To Top 96 Losers)

Predicted upsets: Javi > Rich Brown)

Spoiler: Pool B3

komorikiri (To Top 96 Winners) > Pink Fresh (To Top 96 Losers)
Samsora (To Top 96 Winners) > Dath (To Top 96 Losers)
DarkShad (To Top 96 Losers)
Lycan (To Top 96 Losers)

Predicted upsets: Pink Fresh > DarkShad, Lycan > TLTC

Spoiler: Pool B4

VoiD (To Top 96 Winners) > Day (To Top 96 Losers)
HIKARU (To Top 96 Winners) > Ned (To Top 96 Losers)
Zan (To Top 96 Losers)
Legit (To Top 96 Losers)

Predicted upsets: HIKARU > Ned

Spoiler: Pool B5

Wrath (To Top 96 Winners) > Abadango (To Top 96 Losers)
Pugwest (To Top 96 Winners) > Elegant (To Top 96 Losers)
RoguePenguin (To Top 96 Losers)
Ac (To Top 96 Losers)

Predicted upsets: Wrath > Ac, Wrath > Abadango, Pugwest > Elegant, RoguePenguin > Vash

Spoiler: Pool B6

Tweek (To Top 96 Winners) > Kome (To Top 96 Losers)
Trela (To Top 96 Winners) > Fatality (To Top 96 Losers)
Teb (To Top 96 Losers)
Ryo (To Top 96 Losers)

Predicted upsets: Teb > S1, Kome > Ryo, Trela > Fatality

Spoiler: Pool B7

Ranai (To Top 96 Winners) > DSS (To Top 96 Losers)
Marss (To Top 96 Winners) > Tyrant (To Top 96 Losers)
Skorpio (To Top 96 Losers)
SS (To Top 96 Losers)

Predicted upsets: Skorpio > Remzi

Spoiler: Pool B8

ANTi (To Top 96 Winners) > Nicko (To Top 96 Losers)
Falln (To Top 96 Winners) > tsu (To Top 96 Losers)
JJROCKETS (To Top 96 Losers)
Glutonny (To Top 96 Losers)

Predicted upsets: Nicko > Glutonny, Falln > tsu

 

[ShadowGuy1]

Lord Bahumat2-1 FinalBoss(Upset)

 

[adom4]

Rickles beat tremendo dude 2-0

 

[Yonder]

I've noticed during the Bahamut match jus how good ganondorf's edgeguarding game really is. Reverse upairs, choke is scary when stocks are tied, long lasting hitboxes with lots of knockback for those blastzones...that's how Ganondorf got most his kills.

 

[Wintermelon43]

Andddddd this is when the fun starts

Edit:Yep. Fow 2-1 Larry

 

[Illusion.]

DJ Fliphop 2-1 Mr. E

 

[NotLiquid]

FOW sends Larry Lurr to losers (2-1 in Pools)

wat

 

[Wintermelon43]

It's a shame Larry and FOW had to play in round 1 pools, I wanted both of them to do really good.

 

[Das Koopa]

This is a terrible day for Marth. Aarvark 2-0 False, MVD 2-0 Fuwa, and DJ Fliphop 2-1 Mr. E.

 

[adom4]

I've noticed during the Bahamut match jus how good ganondorf's edgeguarding game really is. Reverse upairs, choke is scary when stocks are tied, long lasting hitboxes with lots of knockback for those blastzones...that's how Ganondorf got most his kills.

His edgeguards are godlike, he has a lot of versatility offstage & has a good niche in reverse Uair to catch wall hugs, if he could go deeper horizontally it'd be beyond broken.

 

[Illusion.]

Karna 2-1 JK

 

[Ark of Silence101]

This is a terrible day for Marth. Aarvark 2-0 False, MVD 2-0 Fuwa, and DJ Fliphop 2-1 Mr. E.

It's also been a rough day for Fox as both Charliedaking and Larry Lurr are already in losers as well.

 

[ShadowGuy1]

Sonido2-1Zinoto

 

[TDK]

MVD > WaDi
Xzax 2-1 DKWill

 

[ShadowGuy1]

Stealthy(No idea on main) > Eonand Angel Cortes

EDIT: 8BitMan >Zenyou
Scatt> Istudying