To the Disco Room, I present to you the third edition a Post-by-post analysis done by Junglefever.
Let's hope SWF doesn't crash on me again.
I don't think past playstyle with this group is a good idea. They're most likely still trying to figure out a playstyle that works for them, so I like to give them a bit of room.
I really don't know what this question means. If I based my vote completely off of whether someone was new or a vet, that would be incredibly stupid. In that situation, I would try to figure out what the noob was, as I would imagine they're easier to figure out.
Again, this isn't something I feel is just a thing where there is a better chance of winning by choosing one. People have to definitely pay attention to role claimers. There are some situations where you don't want to lynch them. If I answer this question further, I feel as though I'm answering a loaded question.
Answers.
Okay I was fine with this answer and agree with it for the most part. I, for one, do things differently in each game (intentionally or not intentionally, visible and not visible), so I think this was a solid answer to my question. He answers the question further in the following post
Lynching them (cons)
-possible dead PR
-possible -1 for town
(pros)
-info
-possible dead mafia
-possible -1 mafia
leaving them (cons)
-possible mafia is left alive, can lead town the wrong direction
-we don't know for sure what they are (can make us focus too much on them)
-if a PR, mafia will most likely NK the roleclaimer, doc has a somewhat hard decision to make.
(pros)
-if town, they can give us more info, although we don't know if it's reliable
Either you're trying too hard to be town (possibly mafia), or you made a mistake.
If you know anything about me in the DR, it'd be that it's the room I visit most and unless something really bad happens, I won't be gone for extended periods of time.
FoS: Roxy
A decent post but then a bad nudge on Roxy for something really dumb. All Roxy said is he wanted you to post more and this reaction seems like an omgwtf reaction, aka not a good one.
Honestly, town never has a reason to lie.
I mean I can't see a situation where it would actually help.
Anyway.
I feel as though Frown or Roxy is mafia.
Frown seems to be really wanting Roxy dead, and points out all his mistakes.
Roxy from earlier. But this isn't much, so I dunno.
Pushing for the Roxy lynch, admits its not much.
Don't really see the issue with what he's saying with Frown though. Pointing out mistakes helps people find scum tells, town tells, and in general more **** about the person, so I don't see why this is scummy. Small pieces make up a big picture.
I believe I acknowledged the fact that it isn't much, and reinforced it further by not voting.
Pussyfooting and looks like backpeddelling because he was pushed around a bit. There's pushing for a lynch on something small then theres pushing for a lynch on nothing. Looks like pushing on nothing here, and he acknowledges it.
Only thing with Frown is that he has been consistently on Roxy for a while. It just seemed to me like he was really pushing for people to notice small things about him and vote.
But eh. I don't think anyone is really vote worthy right now. I don't think FoS=vote like Roxy said.
Again, don't see what's wrong with Frown by what he's saying. It's not really tunneling, imo. People do need to notice the small mistakes people make.
That's an extremely dumb thing to say.
It's as if you know that Jungle is town, you're not even considering that he's mafia.
It was dumb but also looks like another opp to jump on Frown.
Eh. Have to say that the only person that I see as possible scum is Matt atm.
I want a vote count before I do anything though.
And I guess I didn't realize Jungle was that worried about me. My inactivity earlier on probably contributed?
What happened to frown at this point? Why Matt? At this point he didn't say anything about it, meaning it looks like he's cruising on the easy lynch to me.
Matt seems like desperate town to me.
With his roleclaim, I think it might be a good idea to get rid of him despite him possibly being town, like Roxy said.
But alas, we shall await his post.
So now Matt's town? There wasn't alot different between this post and his last post. I don't really understand what changed his mind. Again looks like back pedalling scum trying not too look to opprotunistic.
Well really, you shouldn't be editing at all.
Just post again and fix your mistake.
But eh. I do think (and it is not ridiculous or silly to say this) that one or even two of the people on the Matt vote are scum.
I agreed with this.
This is honestly something I wish I would have thought of and brought attention to.
I don't really think Roxy was trying to get thoughts out to mafia, just trying to figure out Matt, though. So eh, this kinda makes me want to not worry about Roxy atm.
As for Matt's post and Jungle's response, it makes me feel as though both Jungle and Matt are town.
I'll make a separate post for reasoning, hold on
Not computing, you're really back and forth on this lynch here. I'm confused how it doesn't make you worry about Roxy when my point is that it makes me worry. Does he really need all that to figure out Matt?
I was writing a post up in the scenario that Jungle is scum, and it really didn't make sense to me. For clarification, at the time I was considering him as scum.
Jungle (mafia) vs. Matt and Me (town)
he has been pointing at us both for a while, really. What could he accomplish like this though? If Matt was lynched, and flipped town, it would destroy the reasoning that we were scum buddies. That's not to say I would be cleared though, I think he has been suspicious of me before Matt.
If I'm not mistaken, this is the scenario that Jungle has in mind. (matt+me scum buddies)
I don't think Jungle would really do that if he were mafia. It doesn't appeal to town the way I see it. I'll clarify. Assume Matt was lynched, -1 town, and mafia didn't NK me. D2, the scum buddy thing would be gone. He'd have to get town to vote me, and eh. I think that'd be hard. I'm not sure many people are suspicious of me right now.
Basically, he'd leave himself looking like scum imo, and I think a more experienced player would be smart enough to look at possible outcomes...
Maybe I'm thinking too hard though.
Until someone corrects my logic here, I'm thinking that Matt and Jungle are town.
I'd like input on this from people besides Jungle and Matt though, although I don't ind if you guys have anything to say.
Just because I think you're both scum, and one of you flips town, doesn't mean the other is town. Scum buddying town or scum defending town is a good possibility to help them clear themselves to an extent. I never said I thought you guys were scum buddies. I don't have much of a conncetion between you two other than the fact that you're sitting with a fence pole up your *** on it. My day 2 vote/lynch prospects could be totally different from my Day 1 prospects.
vote: 2 day extension
I hope this doesn't come back to hit us later on :L
In what situation would it hurt us later on
I never said it would...?
If you need me to clarify, I was saying I hope something doesn't happen later on that makes us want to use an extension. That =/= Yeah we're going to need it later.
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This sectino is on stuff that has happened since i started this post (pre long 502 johns)
I like what a lot of Big Sis had to say. Some of it was outdated but I think her ideas were clear and concise. I 100% endorse her last post where she states that discussing who someone thinks is scum is better than discussing who someone thinks is town. Doing the latter implies trust, which mafia uses to our disadvantage.
CLaiming (at least normally) doesn't happen in forum mafia as often because no one knows if their claim is right or not, even doctors. For example, in Alice in Wonderland Mafia, Chaco was a doctor. N3 The tracker tried to track Chaco and I, as the watcher, chose (coincidently by guessing) the person Chaco claimed he protected. Chaco had already claimed D1, then we made him claim where he went D4. I never saw Chaco at the body, tracker said Chaco stayed at home. Meaning, Doctor went no where. So we lynched Chaco. Chaco, the MOCK doctor, had been lynched. But he wasn't told that until he died. On the notion of cops, there are cops of varying sanities where they might get reverse results, all guilty, all innocents, or might just fail all the time.
What I'm trying to say is claims need to be tested so following cops and doctors d2 isn't a very smart idea. This is to say that they are cop or doctor at all. Generally it takes 3 or 4 investigations to figure out what you are or not.
I can see where Roxy would want to get D1 over with though, just do to his EM experience. Doesn't generally last long over there. Null tell from me on that.