T-t-tier list

[Emperor Time]

I hope this is OK. But I seem to be the only one here right now, and want to wake you guys up with something :D

New tier list
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=236407

I thought we'd go down a lot more.

Discuss :s

 

[Jon?]

I'm surprised. I thought Falco was gonna drop 3-4 spots in tier.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

So did I, but apprently they think that Falco is still up there. Too bad we dont' have many tourney results to show for it <_<

 

[pure_awesome]

If Falco had dropped, it would have been entirely due to his lackluster tournament results. I've always been of the opinion that that's not what tier lists are about, nor should they be.

As a character, Falco is fundamentally amazing and definitely better than the characters who are below him on the tier list. He deserves his spot and to be completely honest I'm a little bit impressed with the SBR for recognizing that.

Wario also deserves his spot above Falco due largely to the efforts of people like Phantom and Fiction. Congrats to those guys are in order for real.

 

[M@v]

I thought Falco was going to drop more due to the bad tourney results. What shocks me even more is that Wario is the one that bumped him down.

 

[Hawks go Caw]

Wario's gay. Super armored Fsmash for the cheap.

 

[Teran]

He barely dropped at all.

All that matters to me is Falco > Marth

 

[Red Arremer]

Marth is horrible.

 

[Turbo Ether]

Lol @ tournament results. All you have to do is look at Falco's options, and you can see that he is clearly a top 5 character, tournament results aside.

 

[gunterrsmash01]

Yeah as long as Falco beats DDD, somewhat beats Snake, beats Wario, beats Diddy, goes even with Metaknight, he's staying top 5.

 

[Denzi]

Yeah as long as Falco beats DDD, somewhat beats Snake, beats Wario, beats Diddy, goes even with Metaknight, he's staying top 5.

I thought Falco went even with Wario.

 

[Emperor Time]

I think Wario can cg us to ungodly percents. But my memory is failing me ATM >_>

 

[Hawks go Caw]

It starts at like 50 and goes to 100 and it's not seen often.

 

[Jon?]

After CG damage, Wario ***** us in our aerial game.

 

[PoweredVolt]

Was NOT expecting Falco to be that high...he does have the potential for that spot though.

And Jon, just close up aerial. : D

 

[thexsunrosered]

we're only this high still cause SK92 almost beat M2K in the West Coast Circut xD

 

[pure_awesome]

we're only this high still cause SK92 almost beat M2K in the West Coast Circut xD

DEHF and Kismet both came stupidly close to beating him as well, and I think they both did better than SK did.

 

[thexsunrosered]

DEHF and Kismet both came stupidly close to beating him as well, and I think they both did better than SK did.

o.o i didn't know they went

 

[pure_awesome]

o.o i didn't know they went

DEHF is gud.

 

[Marcbri]

I expected Falco to be 5th with diddy 4th but it's still a pretty good spot for him.

 

[haha001]

I thought that falco would have fallen a bit more than that, but i never thought that Wario could EVER get a highter position than Falco.

 

[Notra]

i can see wario but not diddy. once u know how to play diddy, he's like falco. kills arent that easy. but i think falco can get combos better, so id take falco.

 

[Denzi]

I expected Falco to be 5th with diddy 4th but it's still a pretty good spot for him.

I expected Diddy to knock us out and Wario to stay below us. I always forget how good Wario is until I go and play a good one.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

But I wonder if results will be any different. Falco will likely still be below the top 4 or even top 8 in most tourneys. Snake and MK will still dominate the tourney scene. And others such as IC, Wario, DDD, and Diddy will be the ones that fill in the top 4/8 spots.

(This is referring to major tourneys).

There still aren't many of us that go to tourneys still. Falco's seem to be species of bird that leaves only on the west coast of North America xD

 

[kismet2]

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tourneyplay

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tourneyplay

Tlink vs Pika. Needs more chicken

Commentary seems kind of quite.

 

[kismet2]

Tlink vs Pika. Needs more chicken

Commentary seems kind of quite.

CHKN

But yeah, they need to find a better commentator.

 

[AvoiD]

Wario's higher cause good ones don't get grabbed, in example, like Fiction.

Only reason he's higher then us. x]

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Wario's higher cause good ones don't get grabbed, in example, like Fiction.

Only reason he's higher then us. x]

The reason is that he cannot get hit. Too much aerial mobility. I bet MK could do something like that, or at the very least pull a semi-air camp game. I would hate having to face an air campy MK as some characters x.x

 

[AvoiD]

A good Jigg could do the same :\

His ground game is plain ghey, but his air game is to good.

And so would I lol.

 

[Hawks go Caw]

Have you guys watched any of the Falco's vs M2K matches? More than half of it is him Dair'ing above them. That **** just looks annoying and hard as balls to get around.

 

[Emperor Time]

Yeah, SH dair is a bish. And I think they can do it twice in one SH...:/

 

[pure_awesome]

To be honest I've never had any troubles with MK Dair camping. Maybe it's because Montreal doesn't have super pro MK player, but hey.

Shield it and fullhop Bair OoS. His Dair doesn't repeat itself that fast.


If you want to practice getting around it, hit up AiB and ask Umbreon to play. It's like, 95% of his game and he does it pretty good.

 

[Denzi]

Shield it and fullhop Bair OoS. His Dair doesn't repeat itself that fast.

I would only expect that to work a couple of times though, as it requires MK be behind you, and he controls where he is.

 

[pure_awesome]

Front hitbox of Bair is surprisingly big. Just jump forward and C-Stick the Bair.

If he's actually far enough that it wouldn't hit, drop your shield and run away from some more Lasers. Or use Nair/Dair.

And finally, if you're really, really unhappy with the situation, IAP OoS to reset spacing.


I'm finding more and more that I really like playing Metaknights. They're so light, it's great. I just wish I could get on the %)(*&($^@!$*(^& ground.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Front hitbox of Bair is surprisingly big. Just jump forward and C-Stick the Bair.

If he's actually far enough that it wouldn't hit, drop your shield and run away from some more Lasers. Or use Nair/Dair.

And finally, if you're really, really unhappy with the situation, IAP OoS to reset spacing.


I'm finding more and more that I really like playing Metaknights. They're so light, it's great. I just wish I could get on the %)(*&($^@!$*(^& ground.

Now why in the world are you going against the Falco credo. "He always prefers the AIR" Stay in the air >: (

 

[Shy Guy 86]

Well at least its only -1, which isn't a big difference. Is he very close to Wario though?

 

[Denzi]

Well at least its only -1, which isn't a big difference. Is he very close to Wario though?

If you mean matchup wise, I believe they go 50:50.