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Sydney Smash Thread - Comrades Of Xeno -

Bjay

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Hopefully that will buy you some more study time Jason!

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This Melee Vs Brawl thing is still going on...

It's as if we only have a choice BETWEEN Melee and Brawl. You can always play both. The only reason your skill level for Melee would drop is because you either don't play for ages and become rusty, or you become so used to Brawl, that when you play Melee you do things that you'd only do in Brawl.

I for one prefer Brawl over Melee but to me it's pretty much playing another 'version' of Smash. Using Street Fighter as an example, there's all different Street Fighter games, and some of them vary between each other, whether its the series within itself, or whether it's just general changes like nerfing characters, and stuff.

But seriously I don't what gamespeed has to do with anything (look at Tekken for example). I'm sure it was obvious that nerfs, physics, techniques and stuff would change as Brawl would happen, but while that happens, there are new techniques, 'new tiers', and stuff.

In the end everyone has different taste, so there's no point really wasting time bagging out this and that when it's not gonna even do any good or help the situation.

Sydney's Melee competitive scene has always been small. But that can depend on the opinion, whether they be regulars, the total amount we've had for a scene ever, or whether smashers feel like joining in on the fun, be they play competitively or not. I believe that the scene boomed at one point, but from there it slowly got smaller and smaller. I want to see what happens with the Brawl scene.

Melee will only die if you stop playing it, there will be no scene if there is no one playing the game. But you have to be realistic that if we were to have a Melee tournament say in a few months time, the numbers for the tournament would be less than OHN6. I dunno where I'm really going with this (and why I even brought up a tournament it was totally random since you can obviously just play Melee at meets) but, let's say Melee is just some other game that's not even Smash. As long as there are those playing it (and it seems most of our 'scene' seems to prefer Melee over Brawl) then it won't die. It can be played alongside Brawl as a different game. Because that's what it is, a different game.

I don't even know why I said all this *shrug* I guess I just felt like it? Cause I don't even know what point I'm trying to get across.

Play Melee, or play Brawl, or play both. There's nothing stopping anyone from playing whatever game they want to, I mean Xeno brought Guilty Gear to the SCAB tournament.
 

S.D

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Brawl will most certainly bring in a massive new population of scrubs, but...there is nothing wrong with that at all, more people means a much better development of skills and character diversity. I now sorta see what will happen with Smash now, Brawl will be big, bringing many tournaments and raising smash to a much larger level then Melee ever was in Sydney.

However, this does not mean Melee shall die, I for one think its a too good a game for that to happen and plan to have Melee tourneys in the near future...

I really do think Melee is the better game...but yeah...Brawl can be fun
I would have to agree.

Brawl has the potential to be a really good thing for the Australian smash scene - bringing new interest new players etc.

Sure melee had more depth, and those who were able to come to grips with some of it really enjoyed the game. I liked melee for this reason, but that doesn't mean there is no place for brawl in a competitive sense. Brawl is a different game, with different requirements to be skilled.

You are likely to see an average melee player with no DI and little technical skill get 4 stocked by someone who has a great deal of skill and knowledge in melee, but the same thing will happen against kulla in brawl for instance.

Theyre just different games, they both have a place i think, which should keep people in both camps and those on the fence happy. :)
 

Jaz

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it's like politics and religion right?

right I'm all clear for the tourny Kulla, Hamlet is on the friday so i'll see you guys there. i'll try bring my tv, its small though!
and a wii with just brawl aye

Lets see what this brawl is made of aye ;)
 

ComboTurtle

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Jesus, here i'm NOT being sarcastic. You aren't funny, and your attitude is junk.

Stop acting good when all you do is whine and complain about the game. Stop acting like you are the super isai uncaring of this game. Regardless of your placing, you still suck if your attitude is comparable to a stuck up 10 year old.

Stop devaluing everyone that enjoys the game. I play it, i think it takes quite a bit of skill to play at the level kulla does for instance. YOu don't think so? Cool. GTFO and don't play the game. If you come to my meets, my tournaments, you better start to learn some humility, you dont' act like this irl. Why do it when you have a screen to defend you.

.... and hey xeno

How about this for a final thought. If you don't like brawl, don't come to brawl tournaments. Simple!!!! That way we don't need to hear about your dislike of brawl. It's funny that the people that prefer brawl don't sit on these forums and chat about how terrible melee is. Funny right?

Here's a view for you. Both games are cool. Upcoming tourney is a _BRAWL_ tournament. If you are going to spend the day whinging about the game I enjoy, i for one don't want to see you there. I'd rather play with the new players in the community, those "noobs" and "scrubs" xeno that apparently are below playing you, i'll happily vs them. You know what's even worse xeno? That you are a scrub in this game. You are on the same level as they are. As you said, a new equality for a while.

So don't talk about brawl scrubs harshly. You're one too!



I play brawl and have a melee technical game. NOONE IN AUSTRALIA COULD PLAY PROPER COMPETITIVE MELEE, WE SUCKED. Compare even CAO to good american players and we shrivel up and die. Don't act as if you played at that level.

Wanna know why i prefer brawl? I PLAYED MELEE FOR FOUR YEARS
hey no need to go super haywire like im half mucking around with all the **** i say, but in all honesty the majority of the reason im being a jerk about brawl is because it does require 0 technical skill like you can watch a youtube video not even play the game and then the next time you play the game, just incorporate what you see on the video into your own game i.e roll downsmash XD. I just really dislike the fact that there is no technical skill in the game at all however it is still "fun". Also no one really "prefers" brawl and if they do the majority of them are just randoms that like items on etc, have never played melee competitively and like to trip over into final smashes and have a good laugh. Anyways your post opened my eyes to what a giant douche bag you are, i dont want to come to your f@g meets anyways (its not like anyone is going to get better from attending them anyways, everyone is as good as theyre gonna be and you suck) and the only reason im still coming to the touney after that post is because i already have plans in the city, eat ****.
 

Shaya

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Brawl will most certainly bring in a massive new population of scrubs, but...there is nothing wrong with that at all, more people means a much better development of skills and character diversity.
Agreed whole-heartedly. Even though we had a chat about this after your Revo tourney update.

I am what most would see as a scrub, even though I was 'once here' before brawl, it was temporary.

My reasons for not sticking around have already been said. I played Smash64 for years, hell, I've been playing Smash64 for that 6+ years (probably 8/9 years really) countlessly. Until last year I had played Melee a total of two times MAX. I bought melee due to getting a free gamecube off of someone because of well, getting a free gamecube. I played a bit with friends, enjoyed it, thought "hey there may be more out there". I then went to a smash meet and saw the difference in skill ( 4 stocked by Pat ;_; ) and thought it would take me a very long time to catch up to these people.

Sure I've played melee a bit since then and gotten better, but I'd probably still get 4-stocked. Melee to me is probably what brawl is like to many of you, "Fun". At the time of this meet Brawl was in the works anyway, and my train of thought was "I'll leave this for now and come back when Brawl is here, it will be a new plain field, where I will be able to grow (i.e. keep up) with the rest of the community because, I'll be there from the beginning".

Now I've gotten brawl and played a bit, and even played Jaz, who is arguably one of the best melee players in Australia. Jaz was still better than me, and it's obvious why, Brawl still is a lot like melee. However, the gap was smaller, I didn't feel crushed, the margin between us grew smaller as we continued to play, I started to win a few matches. It's this point here that makes me go "Brawl definately has a future". I played a lot longer than "20 minutes" before vsing Jaz, but still continued to grow after playing probably 40+ hours.

The ground has changed for brawl, it's mechanics are slower, but I'd say it's potential is still all there and the metagame will grow even faster due to the larger-over-all amount of brawlers world-wide compared to Melee.

Finishing up, Smash64 is superior to both Melee and Brawl. (Oh wait, I'm saying that because [obvious]).

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In other news, I need a brawl partner for the tournament. HEAVE HO!
 

forky

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Way to offend a HUGE amount of the playerbase with those comments. That we all suck and can't improve.

I think i'll refrain from replying further as it'll result in both of us being banned. However i appreciate the opinion. If you do turn up to the tournament, best behaviour!
And yes, these arguments do need to stop. Don't like it, don't play it. Stop posting about it at least.

Comparing apples and oranges does NOT work.

Regardless of all the anger and what coinciding with brawl, lets make this upcoming tournament is full of awesome success, as we have nearly every single time. Which is not me, or Kulla, or the tournament organisers, but our awesome community that create that, and preserve it.

Also, i apologize the massive announcement didn't happen yesterday. Due to various circumstances, it will be delayed to Saturday afternoon. (Guarranteed this time) ... Stick around... It'll blow your socks off.
 

ComboTurtle

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Way to offend a HUGE amount of the playerbase with those comments. That we all suck and can't improve.

I think i'll refrain from replying further as it'll result in both of us being banned. However i appreciate the opinion. If you do turn up to the tournament, best behaviour!
And yes, these arguments do need to stop. Don't like it, don't play it. Stop posting about it at least.

Comparing apples and oranges does NOT work.

Regardless of all the anger and what coinciding with brawl, lets make this upcoming tournament is full of awesome success, as we have nearly every single time. Which is not me, or Kulla, or the tournament organisers, but our awesome community that create that, and preserve it.

Also, i apologize the massive announcement didn't happen yesterday. Due to various circumstances, it will be delayed to Saturday afternoon. (Guarranteed this time) ... Stick around... It'll blow your socks off.


If people actually read my post i didnt say they suck i said that i dont think there will be much improvement in the game and i also dont think im good at the game, i just think the gap between the tiers is too large, if everyone played metaknight and snake im sure id get pwned (kulla is a good example) anyways yep im done with the discussion because i really have nothing left to say thats just my opinion on the game and i do still find it fun just not in the same way as melee p.s xeno i love you lots
 

Zaidou

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Fire Emblem Doesn't. I Played It For Eight Hours Straight Til 4 In The Morning. Woooooooo........
 

Zaidou

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stop Promoting Fire Emblem Here! *has Nephenee Killed*
=( *isn't Into Death Porn*

Seriously The Game Is Bloody Well Written. I'm Up To This Crazy Bit Where All The Crazy **** Is Going Down And I Had To Tear Myself Away To Get To The Comp And Start Studying For Exams......

So.........BRAWL Eh?
 

CAOTIC

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dammit fork im not that **** at melee i went undefeated against masashis fox and marth, but tis true he doesnt play that game anymore. all is brawl in japan :grin: gawddammit @ his pit and ike

now that im back i can secure hotham accommodation so sit pretty <3
 

unreon

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No it's actually my copy; I got it in a New Jersey Gamestop in the preowned pile for $15. I remember the one employee saying to the other: "Hey, you know the guy from The Sims is going to cameo in Brawl?"

I only borrowed your Pikmin, which is currently sitting under MGS4, CoD4, Burnout Paradise, Persona 3, Beyond Good and Evil, Psychonauts, Okami...replaying SotC and Ico...starting Ninja Gaiden DS, The World Ends With You...

Yeah, my gaming pile has grown despite exams. T_T

I'll finish Pikmin ASAP (probably after MGS and CoD) so I don't wind up believing its actually mine lmao :D
 
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