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Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

Should we add a poll to the thread?


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Solfiner

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Tomorrow we will be At The End of All Roads, the last Smash update
Together, We Ride to it, Comrades
So have a last bingo card and Rise To The Challenge
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I mean, it's a way to balance them because of how huge and powerful they are
where is the wolf panel!1?? :troll:
 

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I, uh. . .had a pattern behind the way I arranged it that looked better in Roster Maker. The top section is all of the Smash 4 characters in alphabetical order with a block of placeholders, set up in a way so that any cuts would be conspicuous. I separated first and third parties weirdly because I forgot the image would be transparent, and Elma. . .kind of did her own thing.



So this is the roster you are given to make more realistic (if possible).
 
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Tomorrow we will be At The End of All Roads, the last Smash update
Together, We Ride to it, Comrades
So have a last bingo card and Rise To The Challenge
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I mean, it's a way to balance them because of how huge and powerful they are
>Luma nerf and Unneeded nerf are separate categories

Nice meme

But he's not gonna be nerfed. It's not like it's something they've done much of before, he's received buffs in the past actually.
 

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Wasn't Star tropics never released in Japan?

Seems like a deal breaker to me.
I don't know, let me check. Any other suggestions. I need a new series from the same year as him.

Special preview for the live-action Sonic movie.
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Already looks better then most sonic games!
 

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Wasn't Star tropics never released in Japan?

Seems like a deal breaker to me.
Forget about getting Mother 3 to the west let's make a riot to get Startropics to Japan, Japan must not miss out on this hidden gem.;)
( But in all seriousness Startropics does seem like a hidden gem )
 

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Who I want (Smash NX):

-Layton
-Inkling
-King K. Rool
-Ridley
-Dillon
-Agnes (Bravely Default)
-Quote
-Takamaru
-Sylux

We'll probably get 1/9th of these.
 

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Wasn't Star tropics never released in Japan?

Seems like a deal breaker to me.
yes
no western-only game has ever gotten so much as a sticker to my knowledge
startropics and its sequel, geist, metroid prime trilogy, kid icarus 2 prior to ssb4 (and it still has nothing), gumshoe
 

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People imply Source Gaming hates Wolf. This probably wont help

RIP


Edea tho
I would, but main characters get precedence. :ohwell:

Ideally, Edea would be a nice AT. Oh, and all of the Special Attack themes please.
 

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Source Gaming should make one for Snake ( if they haven't already ). Wolf is going to be in SF Zero and might be brought back to the next Smash game ( If there is one ), Ivysaur and Squirtle have Pokemon and possibly next Smash game, ICs have cameos and possibly next game and you get the idea with Young Link and Pichu.
However with how Konami has been lately i don't have much expectations for him nor the MGS series advancing any time soon, it's a shame to lose such a unique fighter.
And this is coming from someone who never played a MGS game ( Unless you count that fanmade christmas game :p ) nor used Snake in Smash much.
 
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Source Gaming should make one for Snake ( if they haven't already ). Wolf is going to be in SF Zero and might be brought back to the next Smash game ( If there is one ), Ivysaur and Squirtle have Pokemon and possibly next Smash game, ICs have cameos and possibly next game and you get the idea with Young Link and Pichu.
However with how Konami has been lately i don't have much expectations for him nor the MGS series advancing any time soon, it's a shame to lose such a unique fighter.
And this is coming from someone who never played a MGS game ( Unless you count that fanmade christmas game :p ) nor used Snake in Smash much.
It's a "new segment" so every vet is probably getting a funeral.
 
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Sooo, I jist finished my first day of Yoga...

I now have more reapect for :4wiifit:. :p
 

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Just had a lovely little conversion with a Know It All on Facebook who clearly didn't understand how one element in negotiations can hold up an entire game.

It was about how he thought all the DLC should have just been base game content.

His problem for negotiations stalling production? Start them earlier. I bring up how that would just hurt other content and take time from it like Sonic did with Brawl.

He then later changed his tune and said ''Oh, negotiations for one character don't stall an entire game. That's now how the industry works. I took a few classes."

 
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Er...It's possible for Killager to pocket Bayo's Smash...Halp
Bayonetta: Killer of gods.
Villager:God of killers.

Where is your god now, Bayonetta?



In all seriousness, it'll probably be unpocketable like Olimar's pikmin. God, wouldn't it be great if Bayo turned out to be a Sheik/ZSS counter and then Villager was a counter to her?
 

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Eulogy for Pichu:

"You bewildered, and beguiled... Now, BEGONE!"

Rest in masochism.
 
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Ok so I updated my roster after playing around in the maker:
SmashNX Prediction Final.png


I cut Crash and Mike Jones, and badge bunny. This was so I could organize it a bit better.

-I added in bandanna dee because he is fairly requested, didn't disrupt the previous arrangement, would be a unique newcomer to do, without taking to much time( they could probably build his model off of Kirby's in all honesty.) Plus he is awesome!

-I cut Crash because I thought it be more realistic that way, and I wanted to change the Css a bit.

-I added Chorus kids. They were meant for the first one, but I forgot about them. I added them to this, due to them being similar to the Ice Climbers it seems, and they would be easier to make because of it.

-Lastly I added Infantry. I know most people go for andy or sammi for an advance wars rep, but I think the tanks make more sense and could be a really cool follow character( similar to the Chorus kids. Plus they are a retro like rep as well.

With that out of the way,
thoughts?

OH and while doing research for this change, I learned this exists:
http://nesguide.com/games/marios-time-machine/

Weird game! Surprised I never heard of it before.
 
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I tried making a roster of my own, but honestly couldn't figure out who to add other than "safe" options like "A new FE character", "A new Pokemon", "Some retro character", "Inklings", etc etc.

This is why Sakurai makes the rosters and not the fans.
 

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Bayonetta: Killer of gods.
Villager:God of killers.

Where is your god now, Bayonetta?



In all seriousness, it'll probably be unpocketable like Olimar's pikmin. God, wouldn't it be great if Bayo turned out to be a Sheik/ZSS counter and then Villager was a counter to her?
Maybe they made a special exception, but Villager's Pocket and Rosalina's Gravitational Pull usually work on the same stuff, and Rosalina's Gravitational Pull can absorb Pikmin if it's from one of Olimar's Smash attacks.

So Villager should be able to pocket Pikmin that way.
 

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I'm sorry but I have to share this XD.
"Aww man, I was hoping it would either be Banjo, Shovel Knight, Shantae, or King K. Rool. I've now lost all respect for Mr. Sakurai."

:4sonic:*SLAP*:4sonic:

LOL, pretty much. I felt a deep connection with Sonic in that moment.
 

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Sooo, I jist finished my first day of Yoga...

I now have more reapect for :4wiifit:. :p
Welcome to the Fit Clan where we breathe slowly while holding a pose or do some killer exercises. :4wiifit:

I'm glad that you are appreciating the fit mistress in Smash.
 

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"Aww man, I was hoping it would either be Banjo, Shovel Knight, Shantae, or King K. Rool. I've now lost all respect for Mr. Sakurai."

:4sonic:*SLAP*:4sonic:

LOL, pretty much. I felt a deep connection with Sonic in that moment.
Sonic don't take no bull****.

That and you don't mess with his Sega buddies like that

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I'd probably be eaten alive if I made my roster lol
Though I would like to see more of "If I was in charge of Smash 5" rosters rather than a prediction because we already learned this time that we can't do that
Wait, no, why wait when I can attempt to make it a topic? So yeah, if you were in charge of Smash 5, what would your roster be like? Release your bias, cut thos that make you salty but give reasoning
Assuming Smash 5 would be released at the end of this year so it isn't filled with "new Pokemon" and stuff
 

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I. . .I don't even know.

I find something off about the Layton > Jibanyan argument because it seems to partially function on circular logic (I.E. We should request him because we're requesting him), but looking at how other rosters are being critiqued I may as well just start from the beginning and make a secondary roster that covers the issue of trying to make it accurate in the eyes of the public because no one is going to agree on the realism of any one roster.
A) A roster will never be agreed on. Here we are over a year after Smash 4 came out and we still hear complaints about it.

B) Let me try to explain in more depth my case of Layton > Jibanyan.

Layton as a series has run from 2007 to the last installment in 2013 with a total of 8 entires. 6 mainline, 1 spin-off, and then the Ace Attorney Crossover.

It's a series that's been notably acclaimed for its lifespan and it IS a series that really stands out on its own and has done well for itself across the globe (last citing of sales I could find was an announcement in August 2013, at 15 million). Despite the current hiatus, the series is confirmed to be something the maker is intending to continue and Layton 7 IS something that has been announced in some capacity. Layton as a figure HAS been an icon of sorts especially of the DS era for Nintendo and I feel like such is notably more that can be said FOR Jibbers at this current time.

As we've seen a more global impact in some of the decision making in Smash (:4littlemac::4shulk::4bayonetta:) I feel that just looking at the, admittedly large, success of Yokai Watch in Japan is holding it at a higher than it is at this point.

It's not so much of "Request Layton because he's been requested" as "Layton remains a popular and somewhat iconic 3rd Party for Nintendo's history" in the same vein as Phoenix Wright but Jibanyan just seems too enrooted for Japan that I kinda wouldn't be surprised if the series became Japan-only akin to Puyo Puyo because of the raw disparity in popularity.

I could be talking out of my butt but I feel like the two as they stand are on different levels. I'm sure some people will disagree with me on this.
 
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