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#HBC | Joker

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Almost half the slots in this setup are scum, so you'll excuse me for not thinking any of the "but guys, we should lynch people who are useless, and save the scummy people for later" talk is legitimate.
 

#HBC | ZoZo

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Kantrip also hasn't contributed a lot. The slot has like, what, 4 posts and made no effort to read the game. A fall-back in the lynchpool if anything; I'd rather give that slot more time.
Almost half the slots in this setup are scum, so you'll excuse me for not thinking any of the "but guys, we should lynch people who are useless, and save the scummy people for later" talk is legitimate.
Andddd I'll take the scummy and useless guy.
 

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Almost half the slots in this setup are scum, so you'll excuse me for not thinking any of the "but guys, we should lynch people who are useless, and save the scummy people for later" talk is legitimate.
Who is this directed towards? Nobody is lynching anybody for being useless afaik, otherwise we'd probably be lynching Chaco or Gorf toDay.

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#HBC | Joker

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Who is this directed towards? Nobody is lynching anybody for being useless afaik, otherwise we'd probably be lynching Chaco or Gorf toDay.

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dude, it's directed to you.

So far all you've done is suggest that we lynch Ryu for not generating enough content, kantrip because you can't think of anything he's done, and laundry because he jumped on an RVS wagon and went inactive.

If you'd care to give me an actual explanation for why any of these slots are scummy, I might be willing to work with you. I already told you I'm not seeing it, so you're going to have to help me out.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Deadline is today, I have no clue why that vote is where it is.

Gheb is also not a concern of mine right now.

Can we get this show on the road? I have no clue what you're doing, or rather, I want you to not do this thus I say I have no clue to keep my image of you intact.
He's number four on your lynch pool with no elaboration. Kantrip is grimy and hasn't done anything but be grimy. If you do not want Laundry, this is my leading alternative.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Kantrip also hasn't contributed a lot. The slot has like, what, 4 posts and made no effort to read the game. A fall-back in the lynchpool if anything; I'd rather give that slot more time.
Okay. You later point out that the slot has done nothing but be grimy. Okay.
 

#HBC | Joker

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Post a summary on it plz.



Post a summary on it plz.

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Joey made a super opportunistic, and clearly calculated jump on the Maven wagon. He gave a weak justification for it, and has spent the rest of the day trying to shout me down and paint me as ignorant so he can justify ignoring my points. He's been on tilt ever since I voted him for saying "imo tbh" and he hasn't done anything since. I can't see the point about him being useful to generate content, because he can't even be bothered to ask someone to claim when he wants them to. All he's done is sit his vote on Maven, and wall off at me about nothing.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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I do not like Ryker's strategy of "i'm going to make up a horrible lynch and see if anyone is stupid enough to follow it", especially because he didn't seem to care at all when I was "lynched" and I don't see how you can easily believe that he was actually doing that as a trap, and isn't just now trying to back out of a terrible lynch attempt he pushed
That's because I didn't care. I looked it up and saw you weren't dead.

I don't back out of lynch attempts. When I REALLY want a lynch, the lynch really happens.
 

#HBC | ZoZo

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I'd simply rather not settle for Kantrip at this point in time, but he promised to catch up so who knows. I'm going to bed, we'll try to make things work after I woke up to what is hopefully not a ****storm.

Peace and :025::pikachumelee::pikachu64::pikachu2::4pikachu::pikachu:
 

#HBC | Ryker

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So, it's starting to look like toDay will c

ome down to a decision between Ryu, Kantrip and Joey. Where are people's heads at? So far I only see Xonar -> Ryu and Joker -> Joey.

I actually think we should lynch Kantrip first because I don't even remember a single redeeming contribution from his side.

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Hey, that's my boy.

Last time I agreed with you this thoroughly, you were scum in OS's FFT and agreeing with you almost got my slot killed.

Joker, you're making an ass of yourself when no one is antagonizing you./
Maven, if you think I'm important then we can talk about it tomorrow and if you flip everyone will look at me.

I no longer think Xonar and Laundry are aligned. If they're scum, they're different factions. Could both be town. I'm wary of Xonar. I don't particularly want to lynch with him.

I don't think a Joey wagon can gain traction with just Joker pushing it.

Kantrip or Ruy. I'm leaning Kantrip. Ruy is the one I think I'll actually get something of value from given the time Xonar wants to give Kantrip.

I want Ruy's Maven read.
 

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ryker i actually just made chilli and am sitting down with it to read this game right now i promise

expect some kondensed notes in under an hour
 

#HBC | Ryker

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He doesn't want to lynch you. I'll be here when you finish.

@ #HBC | Laundry #HBC | Laundry Xonar's only that nice when he's scum. Please kill him to death later.

This multiple scum factions stuff is decidedly annoying.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Game is fun. Might be that for once in my life I'm not butting heads with Zen and Marshy.

Lack of a doc is annoying. Multiple scum factions is annoying, but the game is fun.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Talk to me Alex. Say something other than "Ruy is so grimy." Talk to me about Maven, Kantrip, Ruy, and Gorf.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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Basically caught up from where I was.
Laundry, sell me on Ruy one way or the other.
When's the last time you've seen Ruy don the #HBC mantra? When's the last time you've seen him do it while being so late, so hard on it, and with no explanation? When's the last time you've seen him do it when the cracks really start showing in a frustrated slot?

I don't like him a bit. Neither should you.

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#HBC | Ryker

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At what point on the wagon did he vote? Do you know offhand? Where did he call #HBC or was he just requesting lynch? Did he say it more than once? Do you know the answers to these questions or did you have to look them up?
 

#HBC | Laundry

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Talk to me Alex. Say something other than "Ruy is so grimy." Talk to me about Maven, Kantrip, Ruy, and Gorf.
Maven is frustrated townie. I seriously had problems with his vote on you and how it conveniently developed from "well you're not scummy but i'm just gonna leave it here" into "you're scummy" at the drop of the hat. he even realized your arguments were **** midway through it and yet he didn't call you scum until the very end but left his vote the whole way. Seeing him crack a bit made me feel a lot better about the slot--I've seen that type of agonized frustration from many slots, often from your own devices.

There's like nothing good to be said about Kantrip. His vote on you was whack as **** and his play itself has been sidelining as hell. He even took a moment to say that he wasn't doing "nothing" when his only posts were "vote: ryker" "ew" and "ew" before that. I don't like him. This is probably the least useful slot in the game.

Gorf broke his self-enforced restriction. He looks like he's gonna put out but I don't like how he jumped to the conclusion that Joker did. There's no reason to follow Joker's argument on a whole because Joey joining the Maven wagon at L-3 instead of L-2 is just basic mafia principle. I don't buy any of Joker's argument because it's so incredibly wrong and missighted and yet it baffles me that Gorf made the same conclusion. Outside of that, I have no real read on Gorf because he's only recently started posting useful content.

I just talked about Ruy.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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At what point on the wagon did he vote? Do you know offhand? Where did he call #HBC or was he just requesting lynch? Did he say it more than once? Do you know the answers to these questions or did you have to look them up?
He was vote 5. I know offhand because I just read it. He didn't call #HBC, he was just calling for the lynch. He said it more than once. No, like I said, I just read it.

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#HBC | Ryker

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Right on all counts with Ruy, unless my memory is mistaken. He's viewing now, so maybe we get more, maybe we don't.

Talk to me about Joey, Xonar, and Gheb.
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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Then I learned why 3 mafia games is a bad idea again.

I read up on Joey and Joker stuff, I'm not really sold on either being solid scum and read it off as TvT right now. I don't think it's one faction necessarily reading scum into another or vice verse.

Maven is a bit better than before, still think he is viable to off today but I'd rather lynch Kantrip looking over actual content and his Ryker vote. Maven has improved since his early vote on Ryker I'd say given how he justified his vote on me. Not really a fan to lynch him right now.

Kantrip hasn't done much of anything to push the game forward, not like I am one to talk though I tried. His vote onto Ryker is legit scummy in my books and the main thing about his play that sticks out to me outside of the lack of content.

Vote: Kantrip
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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Basically caught up from where I was.

When's the last time you've seen Ruy don the #HBC mantra? When's the last time you've seen him do it while being so late, so hard on it, and with no explanation? When's the last time you've seen him do it when the cracks really start showing in a frustrated slot?

I don't like him a bit. Neither should you.

:186:
When did I do any of this? I didn't push the #HBC mantra? I asked people to vote and support me, not for hivemind that HBC is. I had an explanation for every vote I've made this game, less so Joey that was more so to push the game forward though I thought putting him in the spot light would cause some interactions at least. Taught me Joker =/= Joey main a main thing I am 100% on. I don't know what this last part is referring to.

I asked questions to get the game started and make it move, why I haven't done more than that is due to irl stuff, mostly school and write-ups for characters on smash 4. John be johns though.

I wanna add more but I gotta run to a friends house soon for Hyrule Warriors/Smash 4 other things in a but. If the deadline isn't right at midnight tonight I can add more later when I get back.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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Right on all counts with Ruy, unless my memory is mistaken. He's viewing now, so maybe we get more, maybe we don't.

Talk to me about Joey, Xonar, and Gheb.
Joey's null-town. He's blindly adamant that Maven is scum for making the wrong concusion on the slot. Unlike Ruy, who just kept advocating its death and to #HBC it for some reason, Joey at least put out his thoughts on why Maven was scum and actually made arguments for them and stuck to them. I question his jumpiness and I think you made a good point about his jump from following Gheb's logic to following yours on that wagons point, but I don't really think he's that scummy and haven't for most of the game. He looks bad but I don't think he looks scummy.

I have no idea what to make of Ramses at the moment. Catch me on this later.

I don't like Gheb. His early suggestion of "lynches don't mean a lot because scum is always on them" is horse**** to me (reads like what he was doing in KvK where he tried to call me scum for scumhunting). Past that, all he's said is "we should lynch Laundry imo". There's been absolutely little content given from him and it makes me question him. I don't think I'd lynch him on it quite yet and certainly not over Ruy/Kantrip, but I don't really trust him.

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#HBC | Laundry

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When did I do any of this? I didn't push the #HBC mantra? I asked people to vote and support me, not for hivemind that HBC is. I had an explanation for every vote I've made this game, less so Joey that was more so to push the game forward though I thought putting him in the spot light would cause some interactions at least. Taught me Joker =/= Joey main a main thing I am 100% on. I don't know what this last part is referring to..
You were calling for a lynch before a claim and were clamoring that people get on board and lynch him very early in the day phase. Given that you are very typically against that type of behavior, I'm skeptical.

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#HBC | Ryker

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I do like Gheb, a lot. Saying that all he's done is say "we should lynch Laundry imo" is underselling him. He's the main pusher for progress with me mostly just poking people I want to hear things from and getting the ball rolling by pushing Maven's buttons. He tried to shut down the useless Joker/Joey conversation and has been consistently bringing up a larger lynch pool than just you.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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I do like Gheb, a lot. Saying that all he's done is say "we should lynch Laundry imo" is underselling him. He's the main pusher for progress with me mostly just poking people I want to hear things from and getting the ball rolling by pushing Maven's buttons. He tried to shut down the useless Joker/Joey conversation and has been consistently bringing up a larger lynch pool than just you.
I'm not inclined to agree though I must've missed him trying to shut down the Joker/Joey conversation as I don't remember it happening. Most of his play that stuck before I reached the point that I have said before has been exactly what I have said it is. I'll go reread because I didn't pay much attention towards the end (Joker/Joey conversation had me skimming about halfway into it).

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#HBC | Laundry

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That's not what I meant at all. I meant what do you think of Ruy's thought process behind the reads. Why is he saying those reads?

Also, if his reads are so similar to your reads, then should he live?
I'm not sure what you're trying to get at with the first question.

It makes me more inclined to vote Kantrip.

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#HBC | Ryker

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Alex, what do you think of Ramses asking you not to post stream of conscious and otherwise trying to limit what is presented toward the end of the day?
 

#HBC | Ryker

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I'm not sure what you're trying to get at with the first question.

It makes me more inclined to vote Kantrip.

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Mostly I wanted your thoughts on why scum Ruy's reads were as he stated, but then you back off of certainty on scum Ruy. I assumed your read would stand. I wanted you talking about your suspect. I've found more important things to talk about.
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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You were calling for a lynch before a claim and were clamoring that people get on board and lynch him very early in the day phase. Given that you are very typically against that type of behavior, I'm skeptical.

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Why would I care about claims when there is only 1 that matters, cop, and that will die right away when claimed. All scum will claim this to live, so why does a claim matter in a set-up like this?

Like you even said, it was early in the day phase. If i were to ask for one, why so early?

Yes I normally ask for a claim, not in this set-up because it doesn't mean ****.
 
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