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Legalizing incest would lead to an increase in babies who are screwed up, and it messed with DNA and crap.

Plus it's freaking gross. Have you ever met people who commits incest=??? I have, and they were messed up more than anyone I have ever known.

I'm pretty sure he was inspired by the Alien Ant Farm cover of that song...
or you can make it illegal for them to have children forcing them to adopt and if the girl gets pregnant by accident there are always abortions

Pro life vs Pro choice
I wanna see every one get mad
 

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With Project M 2.6 and Meta Knight coming out soon, y'all should download this Meta Knight texture hack.
or you can make it illegal for them to have children forcing them to adopt and if the girl gets pregnant by accident there are always abortions
If you wanna have sex with your siblings, you got issue. We have natural indicators that prevent incest; heck, raccoons have indicators that make them migrate in order to avoid incest. I've mentioned before girls that are of French/Nordic ancestry and blonde/brown/red-haired Caucasian girls are undesirable to me because of such indicators. If you don't have that, you got some sort of developmental sexual disorder (if I was still a psych major, I probably would know more).
What makes you so sure?
I've heard him tell that story several times.
 

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If you wanna have sex with your siblings, you got issue. We have natural indicators that prevent incest; heck, raccoons have indicators that make them migrate in order to avoid incest. I've mentioned before girls that are of French/Nordic ancestry and blonde/brown/red-haired Caucasian girls are undesirable to me because of such indicators. If you don't have that, you got some sort of developmental sexual disorder (if I was still a psych major, I probably would know more).
if the siblings grow up with each other yes there will be no attraction if there is it is unatrual but if they are separated at an early age and meet each other as teens or adults the Westermarck effect will take place they will be sexually attracted to each other because of their similar DNA
 

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YAY I STARTED A DEBATE! WAHOO!

#MarioBorsLegal2013

Walk of stages were usually banned for walkoff camping yes? If someone were to prove that said camping wasn't broken, would people allow those stages to be legal?
 

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I can't believe they went for it.

It really was at first just to show how silly arguments can be here, but I'd actually be cool arguing over walkoff stages.

I'm obviously pro incest, I married a relative so I doubt I wanna be in this argument. :troll:

My wife is related to me simply because we both have royal blood from thousands of years ago. The amount of spit we've had genetically is astronomical.
 
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I'm gonna name 7 characters, assuming all other possible choices are already in, I want you to rank these 7 from most likely to least likely in your opinions. Try to be as objective as possible.

Here goes:
Isaac
Saki
Lyn
Roy
Ashley
Waluigi
Bowser Jr.

Next in vets.

Choose 5 to cut from this list:
Lucas
Falco
Jiggs
Snake
Ice Climbers
Toon Link
Sheik

No need to give reasoning, just choose.
 

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I'm gonna name 7 characters, assuming all other possible choices are already in, I want you to rank these 7 from most likely to least likely in your opinions. Try to be as objective as possible.
Here goes:
Isaac
Saki
Lyn
Roy
Ashley
Waluigi
Bowser Jr.
Next in vets.
Choose 5 to cut from this list:
Lucas
Falco
Jiggs
Snake
Ice Climbers
Toon Link
Sheik
No need to give reasoning, just choose.
didn't you just post this in the Roster Prediction Thread why do we need 2 threads talking about this
 

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I am actually surprised incest is even illegal?

Like, who would even jump on that wagon if it was legal.


I'm guessing it's like an added penalty for various sexual abuse charges?
 

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Okay, so in my opinion, the order for the first set goes

Isaac
Roy
Bowser Jr.
Saki
Lyn
Waluigi
Ashley


Then, if I had to choose from those for five cuts...

Snake
Toon Link
Sheik
Lucas
Falco

(I have reasons for this, but I'm not allowed to give them...)
 

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If you wanna have sex with your siblings, you got issue. We have natural indicators that prevent incest; heck, raccoons have indicators that make them migrate in order to avoid incest. I've mentioned before girls that are of French/Nordic ancestry and blonde/brown/red-haired Caucasian girls are undesirable to me because of such indicators. If you don't have that, you got some sort of developmental sexual disorder (if I was still a psych major, I probably would know more).

My contribution to this is that arranged marriages tend to be much more successful if you didn't know the person before hand as opposed to growing up with them. The theory behind this is that, if you grow up with the person who you're going to be forced to marry, they feel like siblings and it just gets too incestual for comfort.

Hey, a bunch of my SmashBoards buttons are weird colors, like the "Post Reply" button is now a super garish yellow and the alerts button turns red when I click on it. Is this just something they're doing now?

'Cause it's kind of awful.
 

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@ Aylas
"Walk off camping" hasn't really applied to Melee much on Mushroom Kingdom II when that stage is legal. The problem, again, is all walk off stages (sans moving stages with walk off parts) are just bad stages or don't fit the merits of a legal tournament stage.

If say Bridge of Eldin, for example, was playable in Melee and was 1/5th the size, it could definitely be tournament legal. Probably not a tournament stage, but legal nonetheless. In Brawl, however, with all kinds of stupid problems related to grabs, it would definitely still be banned. Plus, like you mentioned, camping and stalling tactics being prominent strategies hurts, especially since camping and stalling is such a huge part of the Brawl competitively.
if the siblings grow up with each other yes there will be no attraction if there is it is unatrual but if they are separated at an early age and meet each other as teens or adults the Westermarck effect will take place they will be sexually attracted to each other because of their similar DNA
While psychologically I agree with that point, physically I don't. Again, I find people who look relatively similar to me, my siblings, and often my cousins unattractive. That is a natural sensor in all humans, and many species of animals that sexually reproduce.

Again, I'm talking more about the physical aspect of it, rather than the psychological.
 

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"Walk off camping" hasn't really applied to Melee much on Mushroom Kingdom II when that stage is legal. The problem, again, is all walk off stages (sans moving stages with walk off parts) are just bad stages or don't fit the merits of a legal tournament stage.

If say Bridge of Eldin, for example, was playable in Melee and was 1/5th the size, it could definitely be tournament legal. Probably not a tournament stage, but legal nonetheless. In Brawl, however, with all kinds of stupid problems related to grabs, it would definitely still be banned. Plus, like you mentioned, camping and stalling tactics being prominent strategies hurts, especially since camping and stalling is such a huge part of the Brawl competitively.

While psychologically I agree with that point, physically I don't. Again, I find people who look relatively similar to me, my siblings, and often my cousins unattractive. That is a natural sensor in all humans, and many species of animals that sexually reproduce.

Again, I'm talking more about the physical aspect of it, rather than the psychological.
I was just saying its psychological not trying to say its a good thing although I do find it hot ..........I've been reading too much hentai :facepalm:
 
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"Walk off camping" hasn't really applied to Melee much on Mushroom Kingdom II when that stage is legal. The problem, again, is all walk off stages (sans moving stages with walk off parts) are just bad stages or don't fit the merits of a legal tournament stage.

If say Bridge of Eldin, for example, was playable in Melee and was 1/5th the size, it could definitely be tournament legal. Probably not a tournament stage, but legal nonetheless. In Brawl, however, with all kinds of stupid problems related to grabs, it would definitely still be banned. Plus, like you mentioned, camping and stalling tactics being prominent strategies hurts, especially since camping and stalling is such a huge part of the Brawl competitively.

While psychologically I agree with that point, physically I don't. Again, I find people who look relatively similar to me, my siblings, and often my cousins unattractive. That is a natural sensor in all humans, and many species of animals that sexually reproduce.

Again, I'm talking more about the physical aspect of it, rather than the psychological.

We talking about wincest?

While hot in porn, it's not appealing irl. I find my sister or girls that remind me of my sister to be a total turn off, and my sister is an attractive girl btw. It's just weird. It's the same with cousins too. Having a family connection to me just puts a psychological barrier on my ****.
 

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I think having similar DNA is a biological deterrence? I just remember watching something that said we subconsciously seek out mates with complementary DNA to our own, for the sake of genetic diversity. Something about building better immune systems for the future, I dunno.
 

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I'm gonna name 7 characters, assuming all other possible choices are already in, I want you to rank these 7 from most likely to least likely in your opinions. Try to be as objective as possible.
Here goes:
Isaac
Saki
Lyn
Roy
Ashley
Waluigi
Bowser Jr.
Next in vets.
Choose 5 to cut from this list:
Lucas
Falco
Jiggs
Snake
Ice Climbers
Toon Link
Sheik
No need to give reasoning, just choose.
List:
Isaac
Roy
Bowser Jr.
Waluigi
Lyn
Ashley
Saki

Cuts:
Snake
Toon Link
Sheik
Jiggly
Falco
 

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I think having similar DNA is a biological deterrence? I just remember watching something that said we subconsciously seek out mates with complementary DNA to our own, for the sake of genetic diversity. Something about building better immune systems for the future, I dunno.
When people kiss, it's comparing immune systems for just such a reason
 
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I think having similar DNA is a biological deterrence? I just remember watching something that said we subconsciously seek out mates with complementary DNA to our own, for the sake of genetic diversity. Something about building better immune systems for the future, I dunno.
Yeah, it goes with Darwinist theory. Our genes actually affect the way we think, many people don't realize it, but it's actually a constant debate in psychology, gene vs. meme.

Truthfully we seek partners who fall within our genetic ideal, it's curious how those people usually tend to be those who also have the best emotional connection with us. You know, that 'spark.' It's a mixture of genetic and psychological compatibility. In other words, what's commonly described as chemistry. A lasting relationship happens if you find someone who is truly compatible with you.

Oh, and by compatible I don't mean interests or similar personalities. Actually, contrasting personalities work best as long as the differences aren't too radical. In a way, your strengths have to fill their weaknesses and vice versa.
 

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I was just saying its psychological not trying to say its a good thing although I do find it hot ..........I've been reading too much hentai :facepalm:
Yeah, reading stuff from Japan on the subject is far from the truth on a lot of things, especially how to get stronger or win fights (do bullcrap martial arts and stuff, which is why Japan can't produce decent mixed martial artists without them leaving Japan).
We talking about wincest?

While hot in porn, it's not appealing irl. I find my sister or girls that remind me of my sister to be a total turn off, and my sister is an attractive girl btw. It's just weird. It's the same with cousins too. Having a family connection to me just puts a psychological barrier on my ****.
It's your instincts telling you not to reproduce with them. Attraction is based on the need to reproduce, and quite frankly, all males and females have some level of reproductive-based attraction because our instincts want us to reproduce in order for our species to survive. And as for the idea of sexual activity with a sister is usually a thing in such fantasy-based porn, normally those type of things in porn and especially IRL are of course with non-biological siblings, which is of course physically normal.

And yeah, my sister is fairly attractive. Tall, strong, athletic, and somewhat smart (?), but nah, that is just gross. Once I think of it in that way, all I see is nasty is errors with her, and I'm talking purely physical.
 

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@ Aylas
"Walk off camping" hasn't really applied to Melee much on Mushroom Kingdom II when that stage is legal. The problem, again, is all walk off stages (sans moving stages with walk off parts) are just bad stages or don't fit the merits of a legal tournament stage.

If say Bridge of Eldin, for example, was playable in Melee and was 1/5th the size, it could definitely be tournament legal. Probably not a tournament stage, but legal nonetheless. In Brawl, however, with all kinds of stupid problems related to grabs, it would definitely still be banned. Plus, like you mentioned, camping and stalling tactics being prominent strategies hurts, especially since camping and stalling is such a huge part of the Brawl competitively.
I'm saying what if it could be proven if camping the edge or working for the chain off the stage was actually very counterable, could they be legal then? I know items play supporters have proof of it fixing problems but many stage theorists did testing that might be able to prove such a notion but it was ignored.

I guess, maybe a lit of all walk off stages is needed to look at which might have the best chance of being legalized somehow when looking at this. I know there is an argument that walk off stages don't test the skills we are wanting to test in smash which might be brought up, but there's such a sizeable portion of stages with these should it really be considered a gimmick like many say it is?


I was just saying its psychological not trying to say its a good thing although I do find it hot ..........I've been reading too much hentai :facepalm:

I am so tempted to make this my signature... ;)

But really, a man who is honest with himself is a good man in my book. Kudos to you sir.
 

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Africans x Native Americans OTP for life.

Come to think of it, I know some Assassin's Creed fans that would eat that up...
 

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We seek potential reproductive partners who are drastically different and are fertile so our children will have the best and most diverse genes possible (to help prevent disease and illness), the best protector/producer (milk from the mother, strength and wisdom from the father), and who are the most physically appealing (because, again, that means the child will likewise follow suit).

Going against that past a certain level is just wrong IMO (leads to incest and of course messed up kids), but totally sticking to that in regards to reproduction makes you an animal (that just makes you act like an uncivilized fool, which is actually really bad for you kids).

That is why think before you don't choose Toon Link! :chuckle:

(so you can choose Toon Link) :smirk:

@ Aylas
Again, we just need a good and tournament viable stage. For moving stages we got Rainbow Cruise, Mute City, Delfino Plaza, and Battleship Haleberd. We don't have that; all the moving stages are either too big or you essentially fight the stage, which of course prevents it from being tournament legal at any non-super casual tournament.
 
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Yeah, reading stuff from Japan on the subject is far from the truth on a lot of things, especially how to get stronger or win fights (do bullcrap martial arts and stuff, which is why Japan can't produce decent mixed martial artists without them leaving Japan).

It's your instincts telling you not to reproduce with them. Attraction is based on the need to reproduce, and quite frankly, all males and females have some level of reproductive-based attraction because our instincts want us to reproduce in order for our species to survive. And as for the idea of sexual activity with a sister is usually a thing in such fantasy-based porn, normally those type of things in porn and especially IRL are of course with non-biological siblings, which is of course physically normal.

And yeah, my sister is fairly attractive. Tall, strong, athletic, and somewhat smart (?), but nah, that is just gross. Once I think of it in that way, all I see is nasty is errors with her, and I'm talking purely physical.


Yeah I know, there is a whole subconscious level to attraction that is purely linked to genetics. While not all of it is certain (like the alpha-male stuff), there is a lot of truth behind those theories, and they do apply to the general conscious of all humans. However, there are a lot of other psychological factors and variations that apply as well. After all, gene vs. meme, lets not forget the role society plays in all this. The fact that it's a social taboo also plays a big role in how we perceive such in act, it's why many gay people are still in the closet or refuse to accept their sexual preferences, because we also seek social acceptance.

You could write a whole book on this topic really. Psychology is super interesting. Especially the psychology of attraction.
 

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Nerds they will explain why love is genetic no wonder they get so many dates :awesome:
 

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Well, I'm half White and half Asian, so I guess I'd better look for a baby mama who's half African and half Latina.

This incest conversation sure has gotten more extensive than I would have predicted...

When it gets to talking about all this, what I'm always reminded of is what happens when you don't get genetic diversity... you end up with AWESOME MUTATIONS.

Meet the Vadoma, also known as the Ostrich People of Africa.
 

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My favorite part of that thing I watched was when it explained how SMELL is one major way we indicate each other's genetic whatever.

"Ay girl your pits are smellin' fine. I wanna bury my face in them."
 

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My favorite part of that thing I watched was when it explained how SMELL is one major way we indicate each other's genetic whatever.

"Ay girl your pits are smellin' fine. I wanna bury my face in them."
every time I see your avatar I think of Maidman Embarrass


 

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Yeah I know, there is a whole subconscious level to attraction that is purely linked to genetics. While not all of it is certain (like the alpha-male stuff), there is a lot of truth behind those theories, and they do apply to the general conscious of all humans. However, there are a lot of other psychological factors and variations that apply as well. After all, gene vs. meme, lets not forget the role society plays in all this. The fact that it's a social taboo also plays a big role in how we perceive such in act, it's why many gay people are still in the closet or refuse to accept their sexual preferences, because we also seek social acceptance.

You could write a whole book on this topic really. Psychology is super interesting. Especially the psychology of attraction.
The psychological part of "being similar" in personality is interesting; with the girls I have dated and the one I am going out with, there are certainly of course some personality similarities among girls. That is common, and quite frankly, it doesn't bug me. Maybe it would if they were a mental copy of my sibling it would bug me.

(btw, my sister is dating this guy who is the same age, height, weight, and has generally the same personality as my brother. Everyone I mention it to agrees with me that it is creepy. They both are even going into the same major, and both of them dislike Brawl and preferring Melee for the same reason, despite my sister's boyfriend not being a competitive player and him not knowing my brother and I play competitive Melee [we tried to lure him to Project M]).

The whole physical thing where they look like me and have similar ancestry is really weird to me. Everything else I largely dismiss.

However, I do understand why one sibling would be attracted to another if they didn't know they were related, especially since there are a lot of people who are mixed racially, and don't look too alike. For example, I have predominately brown hair with some red mixed in and I'm very tan, whereas my younger brother has dirty blonde hair and is really pale.
Nerds they will explain why love is genetic no wonder they get so many dates :awesome:
I've been on hundreds, actually. I was on one what=??? Just Monday. Being smart, educated, and intelligent (including psychologically) actually is what initially put my foot in the door in order to get my girl. :shades:

Of course, my sexy brown eyes help too! :laugh:
 

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@ Aylas
Again, we just need a good and tournament viable stage. For moving stages we got Rainbow Cruise, Mute City, Delfino Plaza, and Battleship Haleberd. We don't have that; all the moving stages are either too big or you essentially fight the stage, which of course prevents it from being tournament legal at any non-super casual tournament.

I thought for a while Halberd and Delfino Plaza WERE legal for a very long time. I've seen some TOs still use them as counterpicks even today. Rainbow Cruise once was as well, but I know that one was always a tad controvercial. I know Port Town Aero Dive was argued for and was legal in some regions for a while too.

I think I need to actually look at all the walk off stages and see if any could even fall under some grey area some of the moving stages did.
 

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The only thing stage bans should ever be decided on is randomness and Matchup bias, if there's a mechanic that lets the stage still be relatively playable for the vast majority and is not random, then there you go, in my opinion, that's legal as hell.

Of course, remember the Gentleman's Rule!
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every time I see your avatar I think of Maidman Embarrass
Happy as I was when I discovered that guy, I've never read the the series he's from. At least he's way better than that anime maid guy. I watched one episode and it was so awful.
 
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