Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

- Mawile, Sableye, Swalot EVOs
- Clefairy is pure fairy, Mawile is Steel/Fairy
- Newtwo is elevated Mewtwo Psychic/Fairy Darktwo is more like Mew in looks Psychic/Dark B
- Both come from DNA Splicing
- Snapdragon Pokemon Dragon/Grass
- Fairy Gym Leader. Second Gym
- Region is very very large.
- Three Proffessors. One gives starters. One used to work for Devon Co. He's about tech ****. The last is an old Oak apprentice. Specializes in Pokemon forms.
- New Shellos
- New villains have a lot to do with Plasma. Go further into Pokemon DNA ****. Nazi like.
- New Lizard after Gila Monster Poison/Ground

He's Heard rumors about: New Jynx evo, Dark Gym, Hideouts Returning

All I recall.

Why does Swalot get an evolution? And why a new Shellos?

The rest is fine, but I'm curious with these two points.

 

[Shorts]

I've heard the 2nd new form rumors, and that it's supposed to be more Mew-like, but the typing of both new forms is new to me.

Honestly, what the **** is Sakurai going to do with Mewtwo now. He can't ignore such a massive expasion of a character. I don't even know.

I hope those turn out to true. Most of those "I work at" rumors don't turn out well.

I always wanted a Poison/Dragon Pokemon based off a Horned Devil and Gila Monster. I guess that's close enough.

And Dark-type gym. F yes.

The dude leaked some moves / squids as well. I'm not super sure if it's true, but it's definitely possible.

And the Shellos thing was mentioned along with the Oak girl Professor. She's all about forms and ****, so I think this will be an example Pokemon.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

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- Snapdragon Pokemon Dragon/Grass

- New Lizard after Gila Monster Poison/Ground
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I hope that snapdragon pokemon is awesome looking

I also have hope for that gila monster

 

[KingofPhantoms]

A third evolution of Shellos?

This should be interesting.

 

[Shorts]

A third evolution of Shellos?

This should be interesting.

It's a regoin difference, and it's purple. It's called like "central coast shellos"

If the Mewtwo rumors end up being true, Mewtwo has officially become the most interesting potential character.

 

[Deleted member]

For anyone interested in leaks that have a high potential of being legit

https://archive.foolz.us/vp/thread/12811715/

He mentions the names of the squids being Sumika and Koumorika, while Sumika is only Dark Type and Koumorika is Dark/Psychic.

This is false;
The squids are confirmed to be Maika and Karamanero. They are both Psychic/Dark.

He also made a "concept" of what Sumkia is supposed to look like, which does not match Maika's design whatsoever.

This guy is not legit. He more or less took PokéBeach's rumors, made them more "Japanese styled" and added some more made-up rumors.

 

[Shorts]

How sad. Still hoping for new Mewtwo form.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Why would a more mew looking version of mewtwo be the evil one

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

I'm honestly hoping for a Zangoose and/or Seviper evolution.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Why would a more mew looking version of mewtwo be the evil one

 

[Johnknight1]

Honestly, what the **** is Sakurai going to do with Mewtwo now. He can't ignore such a massive expasion of a character. I don't even know.

That is the million dollar question that no one has an answer to. All we know is that Mewtwo is all but confirmed in both games.

Still, I got a feeling Sakurai will take the good of Mewtwo in Melee, build some of that up, and then add it to a mostly newly built moveset.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Why does Swalot get an evolution?

Why did Piloswine get an evolution in Diamond/Pearl?

And why a new Shellos?

The rest is fine, but I'm curious with these two points.

A north and south coast Shellos would be cool.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

That is the million dollar question that no one has an answer to. All we know is that Mewtwo is all but confirmed in both games.

Still, I got a feeling Sakurai will take the good of Mewtwo in Melee, build some of that up, and then add it to a mostly newly built moveset.

So his recovery and Down Smash (because that **** was hilarious)?

@Treecko: But why Swalot, with all of the Hoenn Pokemon that needed one? Why not Seviper?

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I'm honestly hoping for a Zangoose and/or Seviper evolution.

I would rather Zangoose have a pre-evolution.

According to 4Kids, Arbok is the pre-evolution of Seviper.

 

[Johnknight1]

I want one of these "prophets" to open with a "I WORK AT BATMAN!!!!" for no real intelligent reason than working at Batman sounds awesome!!!

Why would a more mew looking version of mewtwo be the evil one

Especially when we already have Deoxys!

 

[Deleted member]

How sad. Still hoping for new Mewtwo form.

The initial PokéBeach leak that is looking to be more accurate each passing week did mention there was to be a new Mewtwo form. And it is supposed to be more Mew-like in design.

So do not give up hope just yet.
....just don't count on it being Psychic/Dark.

But yeah, that does raise the issue of what Sakurai's going to do....

 

[Starbound]

ugh and i really loved that idea of ice/normal wolf

though I think secret bases kinda hit me as "too good to be true"

 

[Shorts]

Oh well. I dont get my fagmewtwo and emomewtwo.

Still got Jigglyfag. Thank god.

ugh and i really loved that idea of ice/normal wolf


though I think secret bases kinda hit me as "too good to be true"

It sounded completely true to me, until I realized this "leaked" after the Pokebeach rumors.

 

[Johnknight1]

Why did Piloswine get an evolution in Diamond/Pearl?

Gen IV went way overboard with the Gen I-III evolutions. Magmar's evolution looks like a clown with a flamethrower, Electabuzz's evolution looks like a Steelers fan in a gorilla suit, and Tentracruel didn't even evolve. Also, all of those evolutions looked much fatter than their (now) pre-evolutions for no apparent reason (most of the time).

 

[Starbound]

Not to mention Dusknoir (aka "i'ma add 5 points to each of your defenses and then give you some attack so i actually do something").

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Gen IV went way overboard with the Gen I-III evolutions. Magmar's evolution looks like a clown with a flamethrower, Electabuzz's evolution looks like a Steelers fan in a gorilla suit, and Tentracruel didn't even evolve. Also, all of those evolutions looked much fatter than their (now) pre-evolutions for no apparent reason (most of the time).

The only Gen III evolutions were Froslass, Gallade, Probopass, and Dusknoir, so they did well with Hoenn IMO.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Gen IV went way overboard with the Gen I-III evolutions. Magmar's evolution looks like a clown with a flamethrower, Electabuzz's evolution looks like a Steelers fan in a gorilla suit, and Tentracruel didn't even evolve. Also, all of those evolutions looked much fatter than their (now) pre-evolutions for no apparent reason (most of the time).

They went overboard with the cries, no doubt. They have no resemblance to their previous evolution's cries.

 

[Johnknight1]

So his recovery and Down Smash (because that **** was hilarious)?

No, just the recovery. The down smash still sucked, because it lacked range and/or strength.

Conceptually though, there's a lot to work with. Mewtwo had some amazing ideas for a moveset conceptually that failed in execution. I mean, the way he grabs and throws people with his psychic powers was cool, but it could be even cooler. Also, Mewtwo using psychic super God attacks for everything is likely something we will see no matter what.

Thus, the question becomes what style would Mewtwo use=??? His original style, his Awakened form style, or some weird combination of the two=???

This is of course not including the possibility of Mewtwo having a third form, which until it is confirmed or de-confirmed, isn't worth mentioning in that context IMO.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

No, just the recovery. The down smash still sucked, because it lacked range and/or strength.

I like the Finger Point of Death, though... It was fun...

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Gen IV went way overboard with the Gen I-III evolutions. Magmar's evolution looks like a clown with a flamethrower, Electabuzz's evolution looks like a Steelers fan in a gorilla suit, and Tentracruel didn't even evolve. Also, all of those evolutions looked much fatter than their (now) pre-evolutions for no apparent reason (most of the time).

I see your point on Magmar's evolution, but the only problem I have with Electabuzz's evolution is his body size. It would've been better if it was made taller rather than fatter.

I'm neutral on it's fur though. It could have done without it too.

 

[Johnknight1]

I like the Finger Point of Death, though... It was fun...

Mewtwo needs less finger pointing and more "I AM A GOD!!! NOW DIEEE!!!!"... ing! (he can achieve that by "blasting" or "firing" or even "aiming")

The only Gen III evolutions were Froslass, Gallade, Probopass, and Dusknoir, so they did well with Hoenn IMO.

Froslass was eh; Gallade could have been better; Probopass' design felt like it didn't reach its' potential; Dusknoir was everything we needed it to be.

They went overboard with the cries, no doubt. They have no resemblance to their previous evolution's cries.

That was kinda crazy. I mean, with the original generation, every cry "upgrade" made sense, but with the Gen IV Gen I-III evolutions, stuff got crazy man.

 

[FalKoopa]

So,a bunch of new pokemon were revealed?

The Pancham evolution looks like an Ursaring rip-off.
The food pokémon looks weird.
I'm digging the upside-down Squid.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

And not all of the new evolutions were bad ideas/poorly executed. Yanmega was a great addition, and so was Honchkrow.

Also, my list of 3rd Gen evolutions... I forgot Roserade.

 

[Johnknight1]

If we get an alternate evolution of Magicarp, I called it, and you all heard it here first!

@ Poppy
True, but I just hated how everyone evolution got "fat." It's like their evolutions were just the Pokémon going through puberty and eating a lot of junk food.

Like, what's the point of them even evolving anymore=???

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

If we get an alternate evolution of Magicarp, I called it, and you all heard it here first!

Evolve Magikarp when it has a status condition and at low HP, then B cancel.
It turns into.... you decide!

An Eldritch Abomination, perhaps?
Please forgive me for using a...troper term.

 

[Starbound]

Thus, the question becomes what style would Mewtwo use=??? His original style, his Awakened form style, or some weird combination of the two=???

This is of course not including the possibility of Mewtwo having a third form, which until it is confirmed or de-confirmed, isn't worth mentioning in that context IMO.

I think Mewtwo's Awakened form plays a larger role in the film, so I think that's what we'll be getting.

Though if it's like a transformation at a high percent, that'd be cool too.

I think the PokeBeach leaks said that there's a third Mewtwo form, though obviously we don't know what it does.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

@ Poppy
True, but I just hated how everyone evolution got "fat." It's like their evolutions were just the Pokémon going through puberty and eating a lot of junk food.

Like, what's the point of them even evolving anymore=???

I see what you mean. But Magmortar is still pretty good. Mamoswine, too.

I just don't get why Swalot supposedly has an evolution now.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

ugh and i really loved that idea of ice/normal wolf

though I think secret bases kinda hit me as "too good to be true"

Man... I loved the idea of a Wolf pokemon. Wolves are my favorite animal.. Don't tease me "leaks" >.>

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Evolve Magikarp when it has a status condition and at low HP, then B cancel.
It turns into.... you decide!

An Eldritch Abomination, perhaps?

It should turn into this.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

It should turn into this.

Oh lordy I forgot that pokemon fuser existed.... Now I know what Giygas's offspring would look like.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Oh lordy I forgot that pokemon fuser existed.... Now I know what Giygas's offspring would look like.

Now I made a zombie Goldeen.

 

[Johnknight1]

You know what would be cool in X & Y battles=??? Using the stylus to move the camera so you can see all angles of the Pokémon in battle!

I see what you mean. But Magmortar is still pretty good. Mamoswine, too.

I just don't get why Swalot supposedly has an evolution now.

Magmortar could have looked less like a clown though, by just making it giant, tall, and muscular, while making its' cannon(s) more of a physical focus.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Now I made a zombie Goldeen.

Fusing Weezing with nearly anything makes for funny names and results. (for me)

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Fusing Weezing with nearly anything makes for funny names and results. (for me)

This Weezing decided to become a clown.

 

[Starbound]

Still waiting for Fahrting, Weezing's new evolution.