Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[Jaedrik]

Honestly, I don't really get why is SmashChu hated. From what I've seen, he just has different ideas from the majority of the community.
So what? Everyone's entitled to their own opinions and ideas as long as they don't go to extremes and disrupt the others' freedom. Has he done anything so vile to be despised?

I agree. I'd take it a step further, though. There is no good reason to hate anyone, ever, not one good reason, name it and it can be found in much more appropriate and psychologically healthy means unless it is hatred for all evil (which may actually be the one thing that it is mentally good to hate).

I'd also like to disagree with your view of opinions and ideas, be it directly or only at variance. No one is entitled to anything, which has the implication that some sovereign agency, most usually a state, is the one giving the title, but rather, it is a God-given right to freedom of speech.
We must be incredibly wary of the dangers of Political Correctness, it can very well turn into a form of suppression of ideas, then other much more heinous authoritarian violations of that good and natural law. I absolutely hate with a fiery passion all things Politically Correct.

Also, don't forget, NO ONE has the right to NOT be annoyed or NOT hear something, and it is CERTAINLY no justification for the suppression of other's rights. If one does not like it or cannot bear it, they can leave, unless the other person is actually doing something criminal, you know, like assault. In many cases it's not, it's just people who don't like opposing opinions, especially very vocal, unabashed opposing opinions. I'd say they are of a far greater evil.

 

[Terrazi Terrajin]

Is this thread about some guy called SmashChu now?

Is he a new reveal?

 

[FalKoopa]

Is this thread about some guy called SmashChu now?

Is he a new reveal?

Unfunny joke is unfunny.

 

[Jaedrik]

Unfunny joke is unfunny.

He makes a good point.
Now that we are all sufficiently informed of this SmashChu character, let us turn once again to other things.
How about that Anna?

 

[Fastblade5035]

How about that Anna?

Only after Chrom

 

[Jaedrik]

Only after Chrom

B-but muh RNG. . .

 

[Fastblade5035]

B-but muh RNG. . .

Jus amdit it, Chorm is inievietbable!!11

 

[LiteralGrill]

I finally played a fire emblem game last night.

Translated: I was up till five in the morning obsessed with my first fire emblem game last night.

I now finally truly appreciate the want for certain characters now....

 

[Terrazi Terrajin]

Unfunny joke is unfunny.

Joke?

I didn't actually go back and read up on this SmashChu guy, thus I asked you guys who the hell it is.

 

[TheKingOfTown]

I finally played a fire emblem game last night.

Translated: I was up till five in the morning obsessed with my first fire emblem game last night.

I now finally truly appreciate the want for certain characters now....

Yeah, Fire Emblem does that.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Joke?

I didn't actually go back and read up on this SmashChu guy, thus I asked you guys who the hell it is.

He's the Fan Dumb of Casuals, basically. Not a bad guy or anything, but uses some really bad debate points and doesn't make much sense at all.

He also takes the whole "casual play" to an extreme, making it sound like there's something wrong with us playing competitively, when clearly there isn't.

 

[Jaedrik]

Yeah, Fire Emblem does that.

Fire Emblem is such a good series.
Every time I see your signature I think "Those beepers must have some serious gravity control."

 

[Tree Gelbman]

I honestly am a casual player. I don't personally see the fun in competitive play, but the way I've seen SmashChu talk of it it's like nobody ever in the history of ever is allowed to find it fun and if they do they should be put to shame and hanged for treachery against human kind.

 

[Metal Overlord]

I don't really have a huge problem with Chu (or anyone really) but he does have a tendency to talk down to people

But anyway, what's good errbody, just watching Urusei Yatsura lol this anime is hilarious

 

[Jaedrik]

SmashChu is what we call brazen.

Can we please stop talking about him now?
Speech of this insufferable lout tires me. *Magtheridon grumbling*

 

[Moon Monkey]

I finally played a fire emblem game last night.

Translated: I was up till five in the morning obsessed with my first fire emblem game last night.

I now finally truly appreciate the want for certain characters now....

Awakening? Oh-ho-ho wait until you find Donnel...
That reminds me I still have a lot of paralogues to do.

 

[Jaedrik]

Jus amdit it, Chorm is inievietbable!!11

I was inspired: http://vocaroo.com/i/s1MR9Qg3Ls2d

 

[Frostwraith]

I agree. I'd take it a step further, though. There is no good reason to hate anyone, ever, not one good reason, name it and it can be found in much more appropriate and psychologically healthy means unless it is hatred for all evil (which may actually be the one thing that it is mentally good to hate).

I'd also like to disagree with your view of opinions and ideas, be it directly or only at variance. No one is entitled to anything, which has the implication that some sovereign agency, most usually a state, is the one giving the title, but rather, it is a God-given right to freedom of speech.
We must be incredibly wary of the dangers of Political Correctness, it can very well turn into a form of suppression of ideas, then other much more heinous authoritarian violations of that good and natural law. I absolutely hate with a fiery passion all things Politically Correct.

Also, don't forget, NO ONE has the right to NOT be annoyed or NOT hear something, and it is CERTAINLY no justification for the suppression of other's rights. If one does not like it or cannot bear it, they can leave, unless the other person is actually doing something criminal, you know, like assault. In many cases it's not, it's just people who don't like opposing opinions, especially very vocal, unabashed opposing opinions. I'd say they are of a far greater evil.

I probably didn't mean that way. I was saying that people have the right to have an opinion. People may change their view upon debating and experiencing new things. I have my own opinions regarding a subject, but that doesn't make me necessarily right about that subject. After all, opinions are subjective.

I am aware that SmashChu is stubborn regarding his own opinions and his reasoning may be faulty, but you cannot expect him to change his point of view if he doesn't want to. Same goes the other way around: SmashChu cannot expect to stop people playing competitively because he thinks it's wrong.

In all these debates regarding casual and competitive play, there's no right or wrong side. There are personal preferences and nothing more. Failure to understand that is recipe for disaster.

I'm kind of against competitive play (I have my own reasons) and play Smash the way I want to, but if others are okay with playing competitively, that is their will, not mine. It's not like whether or not people play competitively is going to change anything in my life, so I don't really care about it and don't waste my time debating on something unproductive.

Well... I'm dropping this subject before things turn ugly.

 

[ThatGuyYouMightKnow]

Apparently it's very hard for some to play it casually and competitively.

 

[~automatic]

Is this thread about some guy called SmashChu now?

Is he a new reveal?

Smashchu is the Pikachu from the Smash games.

EDIT: SmashCario and JigglySmash = Lucario and Jiggs respectively, btw.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

I agree. I'd take it a step further, though. There is no good reason to hate anyone, ever, not one good reason, name it and it can be found in much more appropriate and psychologically healthy means unless it is hatred for all evil (which may actually be the one thing that it is mentally good to hate).

And where did you get this part in bold from? Your own personal beliefs? What you're suggesting with that is radically immoderate. Define evil for me. A violation of ethics; of society abroad; of culture; of religion? Some people are wired differently. Some are victims of circumstance. Sure, it can be an apt descriptor for some of the heinous **** that people do, but the concept itself you're aggrandizing. Hating anything pretty much puts your blinders on and forces you to not think critically about it.

I'd also like to disagree with your view of opinions and ideas, be it directly or only at variance. No one is entitled to anything, which has the implication that some sovereign agency, most usually a state, is the one giving the title, but rather, it is a God-given right to freedom of speech.
We must be incredibly wary of the dangers of Political Correctness, it can very well turn into a form of suppression of ideas, then other much more heinous authoritarian violations of that good and natural law. I absolutely hate with a fiery passion all things Politically Correct.

See, there's this thing called tact. I think that's why Kuma was jumping your **** for the autism comment. It had nothing to do with being "politically correct" so much as it was niceties. Also, Frostwraith is correct in using the word "entitled" as he did, since our very existence entitles us (snark) to things like freedom of speech.

Also, don't forget, NO ONE has the right to NOT be annoyed or NOT hear something, and it is CERTAINLY no justification for the suppression of other's rights. If one does not like it or cannot bear it, they can leave, unless the other person is actually doing something criminal, you know, like assault. In many cases it's not, it's just people who don't like opposing opinions, especially very vocal, unabashed opposing opinions. I'd say they are of a far greater evil.

...which is what Frostwraith was trying to say, only you had to go and blather on pointlessly and without any sense of brevity. And this is a forum, where we're allowed to broadcast whatever we're allowed to. SmashChu has every right to come in here and post whatever the hell he feels like (within the boundaries of the forum, of course). He's allowed to like Smash however the hell he likes it. However, that doesn't mean people have to sit idly by and not contest it. We can disagree. Vociferously, even.

So, yeah. My post of the year.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Smashchu is the Pikachu from the Smash games. Much like SmashCario and JigglySmash.

Does that make Mewtwo from Smash?

SmashTwo or is it MewSmash?

And what about Pichu? Or do we just want to forget that whole thing happened?

 

[Jaedrik]

Well... I'm dropping this subject before things turn ugly.

Yes sir, of course, sir.

I was hoping to open this up to a broader, more political and philosophical, wide sweeping dialogue about the natural law, semantics, and the implications of such

Nonononononononononononononono *slaps myself*

How about that. . . Korm?

 

[Arcadenik]

People talking negatively about Smashchu? Why am I not surprised?

 

[~automatic]

Does that make Mewtwo from Smash?

SmashTwo or is it MewSmash?

And what about Pichu? Or do we just want to forget that whole thing happened?

It's generally understood that there's only one Mewtwo in the Pokemon universe so Smash's Mewtwo is just known as Mewtwo.

Pichu= SmashPichu.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I suggest we all drop the subject of SmashChu.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Looks like I chose the right time to go walk my dog.

 

[~automatic]

You couldn't walk your dog forever.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

**** all ya'll.

I'm getting a haircut, paying my bills, and then I'm going to see Man of Steel.

(But I'LL BE WATCHING YOU ON MY PHONE)

Smooth Criminal

 

[Croph]

I always wondered what defines a "competitive" player. Do you have to actively go to tournaments? Or what if you compete in online ladders/tournaments? I'm not really sure myself lol.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Is SmashChu really THAT hated on this site?
You know what? For the sake of the thread I'll drop it.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Man of Steel? I saw that yesterday, I actually enjoyed it quite a bit

I don't know if it's because I never liked Superman at all prior to seeing the movie, but I really liked the new interpretation of Superman and the more sci-fi-esque feel to it

Yeah I'll probably get a cut too next week, I hate how fast my hair grows back though >_< xD

 

[Jaedrik]

And where did you get this part in bold from? Your own personal beliefs? What you're suggesting with that is radically immoderate. Define evil for me. A violation of ethics; of society abroad; of culture? of religion? Some people are wired differently. Some are victims of circumstance. Sure, it can be an apt descriptor for some of the heinous **** that people do, but the concept itself you're aggrandizing. Hating anything is pretty much anything puts your blinders on and forces you not to think critically about it.

See, there's this thing called tact. I think that's why Kuma was jumping your **** for the autism comment. It had nothing to do with being "politically correct" so much as it was niceties. Also, Frostwraith is correct in using the word "entitled" as he did, since our very existence entitles us (snark) to things like freedom of speech.

...which is what Frostwraith was trying to say, only you had to go and blather on pointlessly and without any sense of brevity. And this is a forum, where we're allowed to broadcast whatever we're allowed to. SmashChu has every right to come in here and post whatever the hell he feels like. He's allowed to like Smash however the hell he likes it. However, that doesn't mean people have to sit idly by and not contest it. We can disagree.

So, yeah. My post of the year.

Smooth Criminal

I. . . wasn't?
I was making the claim that it is fortunate that M2K (who claims he is autistic to a minor degree) can make such jokes and operate so normally. I love the guy.
Forgive me if I am somehow sadly misinformed.

How many times have I been misinterpreted?

I get it from principle. It is a firm belief I hold. Evil is that which ought not to exist. Yet some things are in direct opposition to the natural law, while some things are only at variance, or a lesser, venial degree of evil. I disagree completely with your analysis of hatred making you inherently bigoted. Hatred does not remove the possibility of wisdom and critical thinking, though often, in a very great deal of cases, it does. Most emotions and feelings have a purpose, some are simply far more easily abused than others. For example, God is a jealous god, this does not make him evil, he is jealous of the evil that some men try to supplant him with in their lives.

The statements about 'political correctness' and my comments on M2Ks autism are completely unrelated context-wise, we were, at that point, talking about SmashChu.
Entitlement implies a foreign, sovereign agency giving to one a title. Logically, this title is not natural to them, or they do not have it in some 'official' way. Being that our rights are natural to us, they are not gifted from the state, they are ingrained.
Again, a comment unrelated to the KumaOso ordeal.

If it is what Frostwraith is trying to say, forgive me for my misinterpretation, but I think brevity can be a blinder far more powerful than hatred in its own. It prevents us from analyzing and detailing important semantics. What I said was no 'purple prose'.
Never once did I suggest you must sit by idly and not contest it, in fact, I wish anyone who disagrees to contest it, it is further proof to my point. I AM saying, however, that those who do not wish to be involved in the dialogue should not demand his silence, nor was I suggesting that Frostwraith was one of those people, I was speaking about the dangers of improperly using words.

Frostwraith, forgive me?

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Hair that grows back fast? Man, I know that issue all to well.

 

[Frostwraith]

Seeing the Villager's Down Smash that buries the foes, I thought of a deadly strategy in 2vs2 matches.

Villager's Down Smash followed by Jigglypuff's Rest, anyone?

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Seeing the Villager's Down Smash that buries the foes, I thought of a deadly strategy in 2vs2 matches.

Villager's Down Smash followed by Jigglypuff's Rest, anyone?

Or Luigi's Up-Special, so long as it's not nerfed.

 

[Terrazi Terrajin]

The villager is going to be an аsshole with that move, I foresee it.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Man of Steel? I saw that yesterday, I actually enjoyed it quite a bit

I don't know if it's because I never liked Superman at all prior to seeing the movie, but I really liked the new interpretation of Superman and the more sci-fi-esque feel to it

Yeah I'll probably get a cut too next week, I hate how fast my hair grows back though >_< xD

I was never a fan of Superman either, I haven't see the movie yet myself (Probably wait for it to come on HBO like the cheap dastard I am)
Besides the whole kyrptonite thing, he never seems to be in no real danger. he needs to be nerfed.

Yeah my hair grows back in 3 weeks time. Facial hair is like 2-3 days. it can get quite annoying at times.

 

[Aidebit]

Seeing the Villager's Down Smash that buries the foes, I thought of a deadly strategy in 2vs2 matches.

Villager's Down Smash followed by Jigglypuff's Rest, anyone?

Doesn't DK's side-b already do that?

 

[Oasis_S]

I really need a haircut... God damn cowlicks.