Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[Mocha]

I'm still hoping Link's design, along with the other Zelda characters they add, will be from the Wii U Zelda game that comes out in the future. I mean, we can assume that if they release the new Zelda game before Smash 4, then this would make it more likely. But who knows, they might have their designs done by now. You know how secretive Nintendo is.

 

[Frostwraith]

I'm still hoping Link's design, along with the other Zelda characters they add, will be from the Wii U Zelda game that comes out in the future. I mean, we can assume that if they release the new Zelda game before Smash 4, then this would make it more likely. But who knows, they might have their designs done by now. You know how secretive Nintendo is.

It's possible, actually. I think we can arrive at a conclusion once Zelda is revealed.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Since the games are officially being called the generic names SSB for Wii U & SSB for Nintendo 3DS, I'm curious what word they're using for Special mode, Multi-Man mode, etc. One thing I'm thinking of they'll say "Battle Royale" that the Japanese versions of all Smash games have done in the normal battle mode. For Special and Multi-Man I'm a little lost.

I'm guessing the will go with the naming conventions of Smash 64.

Speaking of Smash 64 I would love it if the Character Select screen had the throw-back 64 BGM.

 

[FalKoopa]

I actually want them to use TP Zelda, and if possible, make OoT Ganondorf a look as if he came from TP.

 

[micegoose]

Well so would I. Banjo and Conker instead of WFT and Mii would be a dream come true.

Conker, huh? He could have a FLUDD-like move, like Jarate (but without the jar ). He would charge it up by drinking.

Spoiler

T for Teen? I'm sure teens can handle peeing.

 

[Arcadenik]

I may be a bit biased here, but I don't get the hate for ZSS I sometimes see. She has a completely unique and very fun moveset and is a rep for a franchise that is severely underrepresented as is. Why cut her?

To make room for Ridley, of course.

 

[Deleted member]

You know, on the subject of Zelda characters, I can't help but notice the bit of attention they put into Ocarina of Time for Smash 4. First off, there was the Gerudo music on one of the stages shown for the 3DS. This doesn't necessarily mean the stage IS the Gerudo Desert (remember that the Pirate Ship stage also featured two Zelda songs, Gerudo Valley and Song of Storms).

However, after looking at Link's design for Smash 4, combined with stage we saw on the 3DS, it makes me wonder if Zelda and Ganondorf's appearance in Smash 4 (assuming they return) will be based off of Ocarina of Time for the 3DS. If they did, it'd be kind of disappointing, since I'm really looking forward to seeing what they will look like once a new Zelda game comes out for the Wii U.

I'm fine with Dorf taking a OoT inspired look. I loved his Melee look the most.

Zelda should be based off of SS though.

Also, Link's new look is like a mix of OoT, TP and SS. It's not really pinned to one style, but more of an original mix of the 3.

 

[Frostwraith]

Also, Link's new look is like a mix of OoT, TP and SS. It's not really pinned to one style, but more of an original mix of the 3.

I made close observations and he's still mostly based on TP. His bow and bombs look the same as Brawl and TP.
The coloration, however, is like SS Link. It's basically TP Link with SS Link's coloration.

Of course that he still reminds of OoT, since TP Link is based on OoT Link.

 

[TheTuninator]

Zelda should be based off of SS though.

Please, no. Her nose looks ridiculous. I could deal with the loss of elegance compared to OoT or TP, though it would be disappointing, but that nose is just too much.

 

[Deleted member]

I made close observations and he's still mostly based on TP. His bow and bombs look the same as Brawl and TP.
The coloration, however, is like SS Link. It's basically TP Link with SS Link's coloration.

Of course that he still reminds of OoT, since TP Link is based on OoT Link.

Well, his eyes are more menascing like OoT Link. I dig it.

I think the other two of the Triforce Trio should have more original looks too. Ganondorf being inspired more by OoT, and Zelda more by SS.

 

[Deleted member]

Please, no. Her nose looks ridiculous. I could deal with the loss of elegance compared to OoT or TP, though it would be disappointing, but that nose is just too much.

What's wrong with her nose?

Spoiler

Real talk though, SS is the best incarnation of Zelda so far, from personality, to development, to significance, to design. Her only flaw is her nose, but even in OoT she has an ugly nose. Maybe they can take the TP nose and put it on SS Zelda, problem solved. Smash now has 100% more moe.

 

[micegoose]

I just realized it's now canon that Samus' power suit parts don't fall off. The Power Suit just dematerializes. So if ZSS returns she probably won't be scary as hell at the start of matches anymore.

Also, SuperWiiFitTrainer64, you sure you won't regret your name later on?

 

[Frostwraith]

Well, his eyes are more menascing like OoT Link. I dig it.

I think the other two of the Triforce Trio should have more original looks too. Ganondorf being inspired more by OoT, and Zelda more by SS.

Yeah, I think they should aim for original designs for Zelda and Ganondorf. And Sheik too.

I'm quite satisfied with Link's new look, not only because he looks badass, but also because the arguments of Zelda characters in Smash being the most recent incarnations are finally debunked.

 

[SuperWiiFitTrainer64]

I just realized it's now canon that Samus' power suit parts don't fall off. The Power Suit just dematerializes. So if ZSS returns she probably won't be scary as hell at the start of matches anymore.

Also, SuperWiiFitTrainer64, you sure you won't regret your name later on?

I know I'm going to. I just needed to join this site after the reveal and this was the first thing I could think of.

 

[Hoots]

Please, no. Her nose looks ridiculous. I could deal with the loss of elegance compared to OoT or TP, though it would be disappointing, but that nose is just too much.

Not to mention that hairstyle. I thought Zelda (and Link, for that matter) looked atrocious. I think they should do what they did with Link and do it to Zelda, soften TP Zelda and make her cartoonier. Perfect. For Ganondorf, I think Sakurai should just adapt OoT Ganondorf to Smash4's style.

 

[LordFluffy]

I like Link's new look for Smash 4. It looks badass. can't wait to get my hands on the game and try him out again

Also, don't mind me. just plugging my desired Smash characters here with a video. (shameless self promotion)

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

You know, I'm surprised. I've only watched the trailer 4 times, and it already gives me cold chills. That never happens; I consider that a good sign.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Since the games are officially being called the generic names SSB for Wii U & SSB for Nintendo---.

I dunno, I kinda like the potential anagrams for them (SSBU and SSB3DS, anyone?).

Here's a question: What do you guys think the overall theme for this incarnation of Smash will be? I.e., 64's lighthearted, cartoon-y fare, Melee's grit, and Brawl's sense of epicness and grandeur?

Smooth Criminal

 

[TheTuninator]

What's wrong with her nose?

Spoiler

Real talk though, SS is the best incarnation of Zelda so far, from personality, to development, to significance, to design. Her only flaw is her nose, but even in OoT she has an ugly nose. Maybe they can take the TP nose and put it on SS Zelda, problem solved. Smash now has 100% more moe.

Heh. Well, personally speaking of course, I far prefer her TP design to her SS design. I find it much more elegant.

I dunno, I kinda like the potential anagrams for them (SSBU and SSB3DS, anyone?).

Here's a question: What do you guys think the overall theme for this incarnation of Smash will be? I.e., 64's lighthearted, cartoon-y fare, Melee's grit, and Brawl's sense of epicness and grandeur?

Smooth Criminal

Hard to say. The art is very lighthearted, and so are the new inclusions, but Mega Man's reveal trailer was quite epic. I'd tend toward predicting more of an emphasis on silliness, though. Sakurai will want to change things up from Brawl.

 

[micegoose]

I know I'm going to. I just needed to join this site after the reveal and this was the first thing I could think of.

Well I mean she is the best character.

I wonder how Male Wii Fit Trainer feels about all this.

 

[Sharkarat]

Here's a question: What do you guys think the overall theme for this incarnation of Smash will be? I.e., 64's lighthearted, cartoon-y fare, Melee's grit, and Brawl's sense of epicness and grandeur?

All of them.

 

[Deleted member]

I dunno, I kinda like the potential anagrams for them (SSBU and SSB3DS, anyone?).

Here's a question: What do you guys think the overall theme for this incarnation of Smash will be? I.e., 64's lighthearted, cartoon-y fare, Melee's grit, and Brawl's sense of epicness and grandeur?

Smooth Criminal

Wacky yet Competitive.

The 3DS one leaning more toward the former and the WiiU one to the latter.

 

[SuperWiiFitTrainer64]

Well I mean she is the best character.

I wonder how Male Wii Fit Trainer feels about all this.

If my avatar is any indication I don't think there is a Male WFT anymore.

 

[micegoose]

What?! She didn't...

whatever who cares about him

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Look at around 1:25.
DK gets hit, but finishes his Up Special. Did DK get super armor on his Up Special, or has he always had it?

 

[Moon Monkey]

Look at around 1:25.
DK gets hit, but finishes his Up Special. Did DK get super armor on his Up Special, or has he always had it?

He had super armor in Brawl too for his Up Special.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

He had super armor in Brawl too for his Up Special.

Okay, I wasn't sure.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Look at around 1:25.
DK gets hit, but finishes his Up Special. Did DK get super armor on his Up Special, or has he always had it?

It had some in Brawl if you were on the ground I believe.

 

[Hoots]

On an unrelated note, this is the main character from The Order on PS4:

Looks strangely familiar... Hmmm...

 

[Baskerville]

I hope DK's Invincicopter can actually be used in all stages and not just ones with slopes.

Hoots for Playstation All Stars 2!

 

[Jasmine Dragon]

Also, don't mind me. just plugging my desired Smash characters here with a video

The music in the Megaman reveal slays me in the best possible way. I cannot wait to spend all my time recovering all the energies immediately on Dr. Wawwies castle.

 

[ChronoBound]

I wonder if this will be the last we will hear about Smash 4 for a while. I am also curious how many newcomers we will have around for this game. There were only three newcomers for the unveil, in comparison to Melee's four (had 14 newcomers in the final game), and Brawl's 5 (had 18 newcomers in the final game). I am guessing 14 newcomers at best for Smash 4, though I always felt that way.

I still think we are getting Little Mac, Mii, and Pac-Man. I just think its too weird for someone to have gotten both the Villager and Wii Fit Trainer right before the unveil, and that those three were pulled at the last minute.

I am guessing supposing those next three are confirmed, the rest of our newcomers will probably be:
- Ridley
- K. Rool or Dixie Kong
- Takamaru
- Palutena
- Shulk or the protagonist of X
- Toad (after the Super Mario 3D World announcement, I am further convinced he is the best choice there is for a Mario newcomer, and probably one of the few iconic Nintendo characters left not playable)
- Probably another new series newcomer we all never saw coming

Newcomers depending on cuts:
- Chrom (if Ike is cut)
- Impa (if Sheik is cut)
- "Classic" Link (probably won't be called Classic Link, and either Young or Toon Link)

Personally, I like the direction of them expanding into giving more Nintendo series playable characters. Pretty much every series except Metroid, DK, Kid Icarus, and Mario already has all the characters it needs.

Series I think need a playable character:
- Punch-Out
- Nazo no Murasame (more like stand alone game)
- Xenoblade/X
- Golden Sun
- Mii series
- Starfy
- Custom Robo
- Panel de Pon/Puzzle League
- Famicom/Advance Wars

Personally, the only new series possible newcomer I care even a bit about is Little Mac. The rest of the characters that potentially interest me for Smash 4 are all from veteran Nintendo franchises.

 

[TheTuninator]

I'm still pretty skeptical of Toad myself. Like somebody said, I don't see why everyone is taking a Mario game in which the total number of playable Toads decreases as evidence for his likely inclusion in SSB4.

Glad to see any support for an AW rep. Really hope we get one this gen, as much for the potential it has to revitalize the series as for the sake of having a playable rep.

 

[Fatmanonice]

The next Nintendo Direct that has been officially announced is in October before the release of the Wind Waker HD and the Wonderful 101. There might be something then but there is also the possibility of Smash focused Developer Directs at some point. Either way, we probably won't be getting anything major until at least the fall.

 

[TheTuninator]

I thought there was supposed to be a Direct about the new Zelda in July?

 

[FalKoopa]

I'm still pretty skeptical of Toad myself. Like somebody said, I don't see why everyone is taking a Mario game in which the total number of playable Toads decreases as evidence for his likely inclusion in SSB4.

Wait for the next NSMB game.

 

[TheTuninator]

I do agree that seeing more outright new franchises would be nice. DK and Metroid need one more rep but I think every other series is good at its current number, with the possible exception of Fire Emblem.

 

[Hoots]

Series I think need a playable character:
- Punch-Out
- Nazo no Murasame (more like stand alone game)
- Xenoblade/X
- Golden Sun
- Mii series
- Starfy
- Custom Robo
- Panel de Pon/Puzzle League
- Famicom/Advance Wars

I think besides Mii (and maybe Panel de Pon), this is a perfect list. Little Mac, Takamaru, Shulk, Isaac, Starfy, Ray, and Andy all deserve to be playable. It's just a huge shame that most of them won't be.

 

[Fatmanonice]

I thought there was supposed to be a Direct about the new Zelda in July?

There's no mention of it on the official site.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

The next Nintendo Direct that has been officially announced is in October before the release of the Wind Waker HD and the Wonderful 101. There might be something then but there is also the possibility of Smash focused Developer Directs at some point. Either way, we probably won't be getting anything major until at least the fall.

October?

That's a pretty long time, don't ya think?

I thought there was supposed to be a Direct about the new Zelda in July?

That sounds a bit more believable. Where did you hear this?