Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[Berserker.]

Then why is Namco helping?

Sakurai is the judge

The performers are the Namco guys

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Again, debatable.

...Actually, no. It just plain doesn't. HAD might be a better term since that's more debatable. Now, it's kind of ridiculous to the point of it being no wonder that no one really watches it anymore or talks about it even though it does still get new seasons.

Really? It gets more seasons?

At least Digimon had character development. Pokemon resets the character every episode and follows the same formula. Every episode

 

[Pheta Ray]

You know what I like best about Pokemon?

You know what I like best about Digimon?

Edit: screw picture hosting sites

 

[Moon Monkey]

You know what I like best about Pokemon?

You know what I like best about Digimon?

Edit: screw picture hosting sites

I don't play Pokemon TCG, but i love watching online TCG matches on Youtube.
I'm curious to see how they handle Mega evolutions. I wounder if the EX rule would apply to Megas or possibly 3 Prize cards.

EDIT: 15th time is the charm...

 

[Starphoenix]

Two Dragon Quest trademarks in English -- likely for the West! Luminaries of the Legendary Line and The Seeds of Salvation. C'mon Reggie, give me some Dragon Quest so I can continue holding onto my small glimmer of hope that the series will find its way into Super Smash Bros.

 

[Wario Bros.]

I don't play Pokemon TCG, but i love watching online TCG matches on Youtube.
I'm curious to see how they handle Mega evolutions. I wounder if the EX rule would apply to Megas or possibly 3 Prize cards.

Mega Evolution cards of Venusaur and Blastoise have been revealed. They're both EX and Mega cards have it where your turn automatically ends when you Mega Evolve.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Mega Evolution cards of Venusaur and Blastoise have been revealed. They're both EX and Mega cards have it where your turn automatically ends when you Mega Evolve.

Oh okay, and I would assume you would need a megastone trainer card to mega evolve and only have 1 mega evolution too right?

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Mega Evolution cards of Venusaur and Blastoise have been revealed. They're both EX and Mega cards have it where your turn automatically ends when you Mega Evolve.

The only thing I dislike about it is the text going in over the artwork, looks stupid. Here's hoping full-arts doesn't have it.

 

[Wario Bros.]

*Antonio Banderas phuck yes reaction*

Oh okay, and I would assume you would need a megastone trainer card to mega evolve and only have 1 mega evolution too right?

That I don't know.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Okay, i'll just have to wait and fine out then.

Another Topic: Idk if this has been talked about yet, but:

Do you guys think projectiles and character knock-backs on the Mario Galaxy stage will arc with the stage's gravitational pull??

 

[Pheta Ray]

Do you guys think projectiles and character knock-backs on the Mario Galaxy stage will arc with the stage's gravitational pull??

Like if I throw a bob-omb across stage on Smashville it slowly arcs to the ground, but if I throw it on Mario Galaxy it makes a larger curve before hitting the ground? Kind of like a semi-circle stage?

Oof, I can imagine the implications.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Like if I throw a bob-omb across stage on Smashville it slowly arcs to the ground, but if I throw it on Mario Galaxy it makes a larger curve before hitting the ground? Kind of like a semi-circle stage?

Oof, I can imagine the implications.

Yeah, exactly like that.

Another example: Samus' Charge shot would arc over the stage in the air.
Or you would have to hit characters hard enough to leave the orbit.

 

[LiteralGrill]

The best discussions happen on the 3DS boards :3

Anyways, I could see something like that on the stage. It'd make items seriously insane and fun.

 

[Pheta Ray]

Cue the slew of projectile camping. That stage would be an awesome counterpick against slow characters like Bowser.

For example, : would easily be 65:35 because of the ease that Snake has with camping.

 

[κomıc]

Interesting read.
http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=217465

I hope someone leaks the clips online.

SHOW ME THE CLIPS! D:

 

[Moon Monkey]

Interesting read.
http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=217465

I hope someone leaks the clips online.

SHOW ME THE CLIPS! D:

Was posted on the previous page. I'll spare you the slowpoke gif
But still interesting none the less.

 

[κomıc]

Was posted on the previous page. I'll spare you the slowpoke gif
But still interesting none the less.

It happens.

 

[Pheta Ray]

This thread is going to collapse if they leak Meta Knight.

 

[N3ON]

Not nearly as much as a newcomer being leaked, or even some of the more up-in-the-air veterans. MK is pretty much expected to be a safe return.

 

["Shion"]

I don't understand why gender is of importance here..

 

[---]

Interesting read.
http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=217465

Well it's good to hear that he's having a lot more fun than he had with Melee or Brawl. That said, it's disheartening that he doesn't trust others in regards to certain things, though I am interested to hear what exactly brought about his distrust. The man's way too hard on himself.

If we aim for complete fairness, there won't be any personality to it. By the way, I almost always win in these battles. I'm no wimp at this by now, apparently.

 

[Moon Monkey]

This thread is going to collapse if they leak Meta Knight.

Hide your comments. Hide your likes (Morbid ). He's Mach Tornado-ing everyone out here.

 

[Pheta Ray]

Unless he gets a nerf, Meta Knight will most likely continue to be the top character.

I mean look at his moves. Even a nerf will leave him top tier.

 

[Wario Bros.]

I'm pretty sure Sakurai is well aware of Brawl's Meta Knight (there's no way in hell he isn't).

 

[XStarWarriorX]

Hide your comments. Hide your likes (Morbid ). He's Mach Tornado-ing everyone out here.

I wish I could give this more likes best photoshop i've seen ya do so far. (btw i'm saving this, if you don't mind)

 

[κomıc]

Nerf Metaknight. It'll expose people who don't care about the poor swordsman outside of Smash Bros (and I can finally main all 3 Kirby characters)

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Another Topic: Idk if this has been talked about yet, but:

Do you guys think projectiles and character knock-backs on the Mario Galaxy stage will arc with the stage's gravitational pull??

Judging from the picture where Samus uses her Charge Shot, yes.

Also, as a MK main I need the nerfs. I want to play him with better conscience.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I think we should buff the other characters, more then simply nerf the best character. Most likely a mixture of both.

 

[Moon Monkey]

I wish I could give this more likes best photoshop i've seen ya do so far. (btw i'm saving this, if you don't mind)

Go ahead, I'll probably repost it again when he is revealed.

I'm sure Metaknight will be hit with the nerf gun to some degree. I'm curious to see if he will get any new moves as a replacement.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

MK is most likely going to be nerfed, I don't see how Sakurai could possibly be unaware of the issue.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I think we should buff the other characters, more then simply nerf the best character. Most likely a mixture of both.

If every character was up to MK's power we'd just constantly fling everyone about, things would get too powerful.

I don't think we should necessarily nerf all the good characters, getting them somewhere along where Marth is would probably be best. So yeah, a mixture of both.

 

[FlareHabanero]

If every character was up to MK's power we'd just constantly fling everyone about, things would get too powerful.

Project M confirmed for too powerful.

 

[Malion]

Toad is de-confirmed...

But not Blue Toad! (Lol)

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Project M confirmed for too powerful.

Not sure if just joking or whatever, but I'm going into fact mode:

Meta Knight did receive quite some justified nerfs in Project M. His Side-B is super immobile, he's no longer a gimping god, he falls as fast as a meteor (but not as fast as a Fox), his Up-B has little kill potential, his Down-Smash was nerfed in knockback and speed, his down-tilt no longer moves him forward (as little a nerf as that might be), the tornado's time period can't be extended, and there's some minor nerfs to things like Nair and such too.

He did also receive a few buffs, his new Dair combined with l-cancelling makes him much more mobile, and his Down-B has gotten a lot more kill potential and you can flick the c-stick to slash whenever you want to, and it doesn't put you into freefall in air anymore. But those are small buffs compared to the nerfs.

I think they did a good job balancing him and making him fit into the Melee environment though.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

Go ahead, I'll probably repost it again when he is revealed.

I'm sure Metaknight will be hit with the nerf gun to some degree. I'm curious to see if he will get any new moves as a replacement.

Thx, it was pretty funny.


yeah the best thing is to take the priority away from grounded shuttle loop and tornado. something similar to PM Metaknight would be nice.

And nah I don't think he'll get new moves well except for the down thrust, he fights with quick sword movements and the specials derive from kirby's games, I expect smash 4's MK to play like PM's tbh. he'll still be high tier I assume but not ridiculously OP with the priority moves nerfed.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Thx, it was pretty funny.


yeah the best thing is to take the priority away from grounded shuttle loop and tornado. something similar to PM Metaknight would be nice.

And nah I don't think he'll get new moves well except for the down thrust, he fights with quick sword movements and the specials derive from kirby's games, I expect smash 4's MK to play like PM's tbh. he'll still be high tier I assume but not ridiculously OP with the priority moves nerfed.

It's pretty hard to make a character like Meta Knight suck, unless you intentionally want him to suck. He's definitely still ending up in high tier.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I was more referring to how the majority of the more flawed characters got major buffs, instead of primarily focusing on nerfing the better characters.

 

[Admiral Pit]

Nerf Metaknight. It'll expose people who don't care about the poor swordsman outside of Smash Bros (and I can finally main all 3 Kirby characters)

Yes, please. Expose all those who depend on a top tier to survive. So really hoping for the nerfs he so rightfully deserves, and so other characters (who I hope will be balanced too) can also step up to the place.
But then, idc who's top this time, as long as they have greatly noticeable weaknesses, and some bad matchups/stages. Even melee, despite my hatred for it, its #1 had a bad MU iirc. MK on the other hand, I consider to be steroids for players in that game.
Honestly, when a character like him that's easy to use, has a great nearly impossible to gimp recovery while he could gimp practically everyone else's recoveries, has no bad stages or matchups, high priority hitboxes, good speed and is the very character responsible for the LGL rule existing, you know there's something wrong. I would gladly make him one of my punching bags whenever he returns, along with the rest of the characters I truly hate, with skulls on top.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Still, I wouldn't want Meta Knight nerfed to the point of being unusable. I mean, again, Project M gave him just the right amount of adjustments to make him still viable without being centralizing.

 

[κomıc]

Still, I wouldn't want Meta Knight nerfed to the point of being unusable. I mean, again, Project M gave him just the right amount of adjustments to make him still viable without being centralizing.

I love his play style in Project M. THAT's the Metaknight I know from the Kirby franchise.