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So technically there are 41 playable characters total?
Technically, yes.

But only 39 can be played without hacks/cheat codes 100% of the time in a match. Notably, Giga Bowser doesn't freeze up when you end the game with him(he has a results screen). I think his leftover data from Melee could be the cause of this. He also has a lot of extra unused data.
 

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Oh, and Project M can be played in a casual manner too. Stuff like items are still intact, and the stage selection still has diverse enough choices. So, I don't get it when people say it's solely focused on competitive play when it still has elements that cater to both, plus fanservice and balance.
This is the way it was with Melee. Well, besides all the extra content and coolness.
This is also the reason why Project M is a better game than Brawl, it in no way affects the day-to-day enjoyment of the games by casuals negatively. The competitive aspect, that is.
Literally, there is absolutely no realistic downside to having a game like this. None.
Quick, someone do a study on a bunch of people who have never played Smash before to see which game they prefer!
 

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It's about time they made something like this. I saw this last night on TV
 

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Literally, there is absolutely no realistic downside to having a game like this. None.
It's a fan hack/mod. No amount of glazing makes that appealing to me in any way, shape or form. But to each their own.

I think John pointed it out before that the downside many don't consider is that this will ultimately make Smash 4 seem less awesome if they don't live up to the (admittedly high) bar set by M.
 

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I think John pointed it out before that the downside many don't consider is that this will ultimately make Smash 4 seem less awesome if they don't live up to the (admittedly high) bar set by M.
Many more than likely don't consider it become that really doesn't seem like much of a downside to begin with. I'd go as far as to say it isn't a downside at all. I mean, who does that affect in the long run? Not us. Either way we have a game we can play.

Sakurai? Eh, who even cares, then? That's his problem. Not ours. XD
 
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So technically there are 41 playable characters total?
Yes. But as shinpichu said, technically 42 if you count Nana.
But for intents and purposes, they count together.

Notably, Giga Bowser doesn't freeze up when you end the game with him(he has a results screen). I think his leftover data from Melee could be the cause of this. He also has a lot of extra unused data.
Him not freezing the game at the results screen has nothing to do with Melee.
Or did you forget that Giga Bowser has no result screen data there?

And that extra unused data also includes animations only present in Brawl's Giga Bowser such as Assist Trophy summoning, clapping (he didn't have this animation in Melee), etc.

So no, the data was clearly copied from Brawl's Bowser and tweaked to produce different effects.
 

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It's a fan hack/mod. No amount of glazing makes that appealing to me in any way, shape or form. But to each their own.

I think John pointed it out before that the downside many don't consider is that this will ultimately make Smash 4 seem less awesome if they don't live up to the (admittedly high) bar set by M.

In my opinion, both appeal to different crowds altogheter. Bet that the majority of Project M fans are still at least interessted in Smash 4. And I'm guessing at least 80% of those who are interessted will at least get the game.
 

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Him not freezing the game at the results screen has nothing to do with Melee.
Or did you forget that Giga Bowser has no result screen data there?

And that extra unused data also includes animations only present in Brawl's Giga Bowser such as Assist Trophy summoning, clapping (he didn't have this animation in Melee), etc.

So no, the data was clearly copied from Brawl's Bowser and tweaked to produce different effects.
I was talking about the data in general. Some if may have come from Melee. Obviously new data has to exist.

You entirely are missing my point. The unused data could've meant he was at one time intended to be a clone or boss in Brawl. But who knows?

That's all I was saying.
 

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It's a fan hack/mod. No amount of glazing makes that appealing to me in any way, shape or form. But to each their own.
I would like to embolden the portion of my comment that read "like", for I do not speak of the particular instance in which we are in relating to Project: M's potential overshadowing of Smash 4, nor of Project: M's status as a simple hack/mod, which it is, but the fact that there is literally no downside to having a game with the mechanical depth of P:M as compared to the mechanical depth of Brawl, for fulfilling any worthy cause. Please understand~
 
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I was talking about the data in general. Some if may have come from Melee. Obviously new data has to exist.

You entirely are missing my point. The unused data could've meant he was at one time intended to be a clone or boss in Brawl. But who knows?

That's all I was saying.

There is nothing in the post I quoted that even remotely hints at being in the context of that "main point".

No one here can read minds; say what you mean and mean what you say.


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There is nothing in the post I quoted that even remotely hints at being in the context of that "main point".

No one here can read minds; say what you mean and mean what you say.


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Throughout a lot of my posts I indeed was wondering exactly what Giga Bowser was planned for in Brawl outside of just being a simple transformation. I did actually say this, more than once. Including that post. You're hanging too much onto everything said. I did mean what I said, and yes, I was incorrect about the data from Melee. But I still think that the fact they gave him results screen data could've meant something at one time only. Which is still all I'm getting at. Likewise, I should make a quick roster based upon that. Going strictly by file names, of course. I don't know if Wario-Man should count, seeing as he never had a results screen, and unlike Giga, wasn't a separate character in Smash. I think the reason Wario-Man has a character file is solely because he plays like a regular character, just obviously improved and has special unique data, like being invincible.
 

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If anything the best of both worlds would be a chick with a ****
I think a **** would be a downgrade in a lot of ways. How many women would say "I want to swap sexual organs so that I too can have rather forgettable orgasms one at a time due to my newly found refractory period." Would also get in the way of lots of cute clothes, y'know? AND BESIDES, due to the compact nature of VULVAE, you can just wear any **** you want over it.

I guess the whole uterus thing could go though, who wants periods and babies.
 

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I think a **** would be a downgrade in a lot of ways. How many women would say "I want to swap sexual organs so that I too can have rather forgettable orgasms one at a time due to my newly found refractory period." Would also get in the way of lots of cute clothes, y'know? AND BESIDES, due to the compact nature of VULVAE, you can just wear any **** you want over it.

I guess the whole uterus thing could go though, who wants periods and babies.
Well, it's still an improvement over a man with large breasts
 

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Well, it's still an improvement over a man with large breasts
I guess you don't really gain anything from breasts. Just kind of there in the way. Really obstacious.

GOD DAMN, can you imagine trying to run naked like that? Balls and breasts bouncing around every whichaways. So painful.
 

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Damn those Mario 3D World reviews are strong.
Gonna pick up the game day one hoping it will ease my hype for Sm4sh for a couple of weeks at least.
 

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I guess you don't really gain anything from breasts. Just kind of there in the way. Really obstacious.

GOD DAMN, can you imagine trying to run naked like that? Balls and breasts bouncing around every whichaways. So painful.
And this is why Isaac shouldn't be in SMASH
 

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Oh my LOL, I just unlocked the trophy you get when you get 500 likes.
And I made like 300ish posts.

Users, please, contain your likes.
 

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Bowser being the antagonist isn't really a legitimate complaint, right? Like, saying that doesn't really mean anything at all. It makes no difference who the bad guy is, they'd do the same thing Bowser did.
 

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Bowser still antagonist... LOL, like that would detract from the quality of the game. (Apparently, it does.)

 
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