Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[Jaedrik]

Uhhh....
This... probably... isn't the best place... for this...
Funny results though.

What the hell?

Do your jobs and delete that post.

No, but seriously, I'm fine with it, personally, but that's your position in this community, stop slacking/being okay with it.
Embarrass
Edit: This should have been a PM, I realize too late, but it's here now.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Shameless self promotion:

Spoiler

Back when X and Y was first revealed, I wanted a Kalos Trainer SSB character to have the first evolution of the grass starter, middle evo of the fire starter, and final evo of the water starter, and it looks like I got lucky...I think. Haven't seen Chespin's final form.

Kalos Trainer:

Chespin
Braixen

Spoiler

Gerdinja

Playing as Braxien and Gerdinja would be awesome. As for Chespin...eh, I suppose you guys would like it.

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[Morbi]

Shameless self promotion:

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Back when X and Y was first revealed, I wanted a Kalos Trainer SSB character to have the first evolution of the grass starter, middle evo of the fire starter, and final evo of the water starter, and it looks like I got lucky...I think. Haven't seen Chespin's final form.

Kalos Trainer:

Chespin
Braixen
Gerdinja

Playing as Braxien and Gerdinja would be awesome. As for Chespin...eh, I suppose you guys would like it.

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Braxien and Chespin are my favorites out of each family. I have yet to see Gerdinja. I tried typing it into Google, but nothing came up.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Am I the only one around here who is genuinely worried that they're going to overdue it with the mega evolutions? Charizard X is cool but does Charizard really need two mega evolutions? Mewtwo having two is kind of understandable because, come on, it's the ultimate pokemon but this seems like overkill.

 

[Morbi]

Am I the only one around here who is genuinely worried that they're going to overdue it with the mega evolutions? Charizard X is cool but does Charizard really need two mega evolutions? Mewtwo having two is kind of understandable because, come on, it's the ultimate pokemon but this seems like overkill.

I am not too worried about it actually. I think they are just showcasing most of the relevant ones. I doubt there are too many Pokemon with 2 Mega-Evolutions.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Venusaur was confirmed NOT to have an X and Y form so it may be exclusive to Charizard...

That sucks. Why's he so special!?!?

Because 10 year olds + dragons = lifelong fanboyism.

 

[LiteralGrill]

In all honesty, once all the crazy new evolutions showed up it was over for me. I may be stuck in the past, but Pokemon isn't Pokemon to me anymore. I was considering trying to get back into it with X and Y but I just can't.

I just hope some day they have the intelligence to finally just let the game rest instead of using it shamelessly forever, but I doubt it will happen. They'll run it so far into the ground it's unrecognizable as long as it makes money...

 

[IsmaR]

You're all just jealous of the Charmander master race.

 

[BKupa666]

Am I the only one around here who is genuinely worried that they're going to overdue it with the mega evolutions? Charizard X is cool but does Charizard really need two mega evolutions? Mewtwo having two is kind of understandable because, come on, it's the ultimate pokemon but this seems like overkill.

In terms of Smash, I don't think it'll matter much. If you break free from the mentality that characters must incorporate any and all new abilities they gain between Smash games in their movesets, there's really no reason to add them, because they don't bring all that much to the table aside from trivial statistic changes.

 

[Metal Overlord]

In terms of Smash, I don't think it'll matter much. If you break free from the mentality that characters must incorporate any and all new abilities they gain between Smash games in their movesets, there's really no reason to add them, because they don't bring all that much to the table aside from trivial statistic changes.

this

just... this

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

In terms of Smash, I don't think it'll matter much. If you break free from the mentality that characters must incorporate any and all new abilities they gain between Smash games in their movesets, there's really no reason to add them, because they don't bring all that much to the table aside from trivial statistic changes.

I agree with this entirely.

It's okay to add notes from earlier or later games. I'd love if Pikachu got his first game's Air Up A, but now it became Iron Tail. I mean, each new game has added something to each character, although I do believe all the additions are from a later game(or many characters do this). Link got the Gale Boomerang, Ganondorf got his Beast Ganon and his new look, Samus get her missiles and later Zero Laser, Pikachu got his Volt Tackle, Link got his Bow as well, Jigglypuff Rollout(she didn't have it till a later game...), Fox got his Fox Illusion, based upon the Boost itself, Mario got his FLUDD...

 

[Fatmanonice]

In terms of Smash, I don't think it'll matter much. If you break free from the mentality that characters must incorporate any and all new abilities they gain between Smash games in their movesets, there's really no reason to add them, because they don't bring all that much to the table aside from trivial statistic changes.

I know but I'm referring to the Pokemon games themselves. There's even a rumor going around that there's only about 70 completely new Pokemon altogether and that would largely kill my enthusiasm for these games.

 

[BKupa666]

Yeah, let me put it another way. People aren't clamoring for any of the Mega forms because of what they can do; it's not like people wanting Little Mac because of his Star Punch mechanic, K. Rool for his costume weaponry, Ridley for breathing plasma and dragging opponents against the stage, etc. It's just an expectation that these forms are inevitably in, and then justifying them as good inclusions because...well, it's the same Mewtwo/Charizard/Lucario that's already in, just faster/slower but weaker/stronger and lighter/heavier. Even if Melee style clones return, I have trouble seeing that happening, considering Sakurai chose Pichu over Raichu for being more distinct.

I'm largely unfamiliar with the new Pokemon, so that's for someone else to analyze.

 

[Oniric Spriter]

I know but I'm referring to the Pokemon games themselves. There's even a rumor going around that there's only about 70 completely new Pokemon altogether and that would largely kill my enthusiasm for these games.

I'm hoping for that to be fake, just 70, not even 100 is really disappointing.

 

[Morbi]

I know but I'm referring to the Pokemon games themselves. There's even a rumor going around that there's only about 70 completely new Pokemon altogether and that would largely kill my enthusiasm for these games.

Only 70?! Never mind, I think you might be correct. They are going a little overboard with these Mega-Evolutions. I used to think that Johto (Gold, Silver, and Crystal) copped out with only 100 new Pokemon. That has killed my enthusiasm too.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Yeah, let me put it another way. People aren't clamoring for any of the Mega forms because of what they can do; it's not like people wanting Little Mac because of his Star Punch mechanic, K. Rool for his costume weaponry, Ridley for breathing plasma and dragging opponents against the stage, etc. It's just an expectation that these forms are inevitably in, and then justifying them as good inclusions because...well, it's the same Mewtwo/Charizard/Lucario that's already in, just faster/slower but weaker/stronger and lighter/heavier. Even if Melee style clones return, I have trouble seeing that happening, considering Sakurai chose Pichu over Raichu for being more distinct.

I'm largely unfamiliar with the new Pokemon, so that's for someone else to analyze.

I'd like to note that if the rumors about Sakurai's Melee stuff is true, Pichu got picked because he was from Gen II only(or as well). Him having an unique mechanic may have had a factor.

However, yes, I agree with this too.

What the Mega Evolutions do is make them notable for inclusion, as in Sakurai would pay attention to them more than those without. They have a purpose, gameplay is just not automatically one of them.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Knuckles...

Why you so burl?!?!

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Should have used the Spoon Sword.

Also totally buying Origins the second it comes to DVD.

Wonder how different the result would've been against the Mega Zard X if he had used the "spoon sword". My inner fanboy is more disappointed though that he didn't change into Mega Mewtwo X after being knocked against the wall like in that gif, and then proceeded to knock out Zard again with Giga Impact or something.

 

[Morbi]

I used to be a firm and adamant supporter of cutting Pokemon Trainer (because of the sheer difficulty of balancing and implementing him). However, all of this current Pokemon news almost makes me think that we will get a Pokemon Trainer reveal for X and Y. The Jigglypuff that is my heart has broken.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Pokemon's turned into a goddamned toss up as far as Smash reps go. Everybody's relevant again and we'll just have to wait until next Friday to see who of the at least 5 potential candidates made the cut.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Everybody's relevant again

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[LiteralGrill]

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Depends on how relevant you find HG/SS with the notched ear Pichu.

 

[Vintage Creep]

Just realized we got only like 50 seconds of new footage since E3... Sakurai should put up a random match every two weeks or so on the site.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Depends on how relevant you find HG/SS with the notched ear Pichu.

Not relevant at all? That was an extremely unpopular Pichu. Melee's Pichu was always worth using, to put it simply. Which is saying a lot.

 

[Baskerville]

With how much of a push Mewtwo is getting with the 2 Mega Evolutions, starring in the new movie, and having an appearance in the Pokemon Origin anime along with the hype X&Y is getting, I'm certain Mewtwo will be revealed next around the time X&Y comes out.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Ukelele Pichu?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Hey. I heard that there's only 70 new pokemon in X and Y.

That true?

 

[LiteralGrill]

GOOD!

Catch em all has become so INSANELY difficult I wouldn't waste my time on it now.

For years now I thought they should cycle Pokemon around like MTG or something, just 70 is more then okay.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

GOOD!

Catch em all has become so INSANELY difficult I wouldn't waste my time on it now.

For years now I thought they should cycle Pokemon around like MTG or something, just 70 is more then okay.

Two Pokemon have X/Y specific forms. Try filling out your dex with every form/forme.

 

[Frostwraith]

Only 70? Hmm... It sure seems a small number compared to previous generations, but I actually think it's not too bad, considering the huge amount of Pokémon that already exist.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

You know what? I just had the most "out there" idea.
What if Pokemon Trainer's replacement is Mewtwo?
As in, All three Mewtwo's? Starting from normal Mewtwo who switches to Mewtwo X, who switches to Mewtwo Y, and then cycles back to normal?
Basically Pokemon Trainer except with no trainer and 3 different Mewtwos? ¦D

 

[Curious Villager]

Iwata: "We heard you all really missed Mewtwo in Super Smash Bros, so now as an apology. We give you THREE Mewtwo's now!"

 

[Frostwraith]

If they're going to remove the Trainer, I wouldn't mind if each of his Pokémon became standalone, although the roster would seem a little clogged with Pokémon characters.

Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, Charizard, Ivysaur, Squirtle and Lucario as separate characters would seem a bit overkill, even though it's one more character than Brawl.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Iwata: "We heard you all really missed Mewtwo in Super Smash Bros, so now as an apology. We give you THREE Mewtwo's now!"

Better hope there isn't a Mewtwo Z, then the Smash 4 cast would have to face the awesome power of the Mewtwo Quartet. ¦D

 

[Aurane]

Hey. I heard that there's only 70 new pokemon in X and Y.

That true?

Even if that's true, no one should whine. There's 700+ Pokemon currently so it's not like we're deprived.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Even if that's true, no one should whine. There's 700+ Pokemon currently so it's not like we're deprived.

Unless one of those Pokemon that isn't in the game and you don't have it in another game to transfer over or can't afford it.

THEN they'd be deprived. ¦D

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Even if that's true, no one should whine. There's 700+ Pokemon currently so it's not like we're deprived.

Pokemon 666. Yes. That is all.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Whoops! I derped and read that wrong! XD

I thought you guys were saying there would only be 70 Pokemon we could catch at all in this game. lol

I guess I'm wearing these glasses for a reason. ¦D

 

[Arcadenik]

I wonder if Pokemon 666 is Dark/Fire... maybe that Pokemon will be named Siksiksiks...

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Hey. I heard that there's only 70 new pokemon in X and Y.

If that's true, THANK GOD.