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foolssigma

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Jesus ****ing Christ people, Toad is not going to be a playable character. Stop pretending it's still going to happen.
I dont think Toad is going to be playable, nor do I even like the character very much. I was merely going with the whole smash bros must release news with a major game release philosophy.
 

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I can live without the Subspace cutscenes.

I did like them though. Unfortunately the SSE was very poorly executed. I still found it to be fun though.
It was fun... Until Tabuu came and required players to replay already beaten levels...
But I did enjoy the cutscenes for what they were worth.
 

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I dont think Toad is going to be playable, nor do I even like the character very much. I was merely going with the whole smash bros must release news with a major game release philosophy.
Just ignore him.

He not only said something that nobody is talking about, as nobody is actually saying Toad is guaranteed, but nobody is saying he's definitely not going getting in.

He's just trying to rile people up by clear trolling and does not know what Sakurai will do and never will. Until the game comes out with Toad not playable, he could very much be playable. This is pretty much as accurate as we can get Toad's chances. Sakurai already said that movesets could change. That means Toad is not guaranteed to be Peach's B near the end.

That's literally it when it comes to Toad's chances. I don't even think they're high, but I won't kid myself; He could still get in. And it would be glorious if he did.
 

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Jesus ****ing Christ people, Toad is not going to be a playable character. Stop pretending it's still going to happen.
Yeah yeah...people thought Toon Link was out too because of his descendant being on the train.

I'm unsure whether Toad is still likely or not, but it's not over 'till it's over, so I'm not counting him out just yet.

Sakurai already said that movesets could change. That means Toad is not guaranteed to be Peach's B near the end.

That's literally it when it comes to Toad's chances. I don't even think they're high, but I won't kid myself; He could still get in. And it would be glorious if he did.
Um, Toad could still be in even if Peach keeps the B move.

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Um, Toad could still be in even if Peach keeps the B move.

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Maybe.

Keep in mind that the Link in the background of the Spirit Tracks stage is a different person from Toon Link, who is literally one person from both WW and PH. They're different people.

It's a slightly different situation, since Peach's version of Toad appears to be the actual main Toad. Of course, it depends if you mean the Main Toad being playable or just any Toad in general(as in the generic race, not the other notable ones like Toadsworth).

So I'm not entirely sure that'll be the case. While I would like to think Sakurai wouldn't care, I don't remember any cases where you can play as the exact same person as the character in the background of a stage. I realize that they're both designed toon-like, but it's a slightly different story.

I do think Toad could be playable, but I really doubt he will unless Peach gets a new B move. Why not Toadsworth(as her B)? He actually is her current protector...
 

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I want Toad's intro video to start with Peach using him repeatedly, letting him get beat up. Then Toad hops out of her grip and punches her away.
 

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I'm curious, if the Super Mario 3D World release date passes by without a Toad confirmation, will people drop their expectations for him?
 

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I'm curious, if the Super Mario 3D World release date passes by without a Toad confirmation, will people drop their expectations for him?
No. Just... no.

For example, if Sakurai confirmed that Ridley would be a stage hazard, people on here would have reactions like:

"Well, that's Other M Ridley! We can still have Ridley!" or "Sakurai is trolling us!"

It's never gonna be that easy for people to admit that their character doesn't have a chance.
 

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Would be kind of strange revealing the entire Mario cast so early, lol.


@Tumblr: If anyone pulls that in my thread, I will ban them.
 

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My thoughts in regards to all the bickering and debating going on in here. ¦D

*keeps watching in enjoyment*
 

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No. Just... no.

For example, if Sakurai confirmed that Ridley would be a stage hazard, people on here would have reactions like:

"Well, that's Other M Ridley! We can still have Ridley!" or "Sakurai is trolling us!"

It's never gonna be that easy for people to admit that their character doesn't have a chance.
That's my perception as well. People have a tendency to punt on the deadline by which they can judge a character's prospects. Initially, it was "We'll be able to tell what lies in store for Toad when Peach is revealed." Now, it's "This impacts nothing, we'll just have to wait until December for Blue Toad to be shown with 3D World." If 3D World comes to pass and nothing is shown, I'm fully expecting "They haven't shown any newcomers yet, they're holding him back for later" or "He's an unlockable, of course he's not being shown yet."

As much as I love Ridley, I'm expecting the same with at least a few people if he's shown as a stage hazard. Even Oasis said he doesn't want to fall into that trap.
 

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That's my perception as well. People have a tendency to punt on the deadline by which they can judge a character's prospects. Initially, it was "We'll be able to tell what lies in store for Toad when Peach is revealed." Now, it's "This impacts nothing, we'll just have to wait until December for Blue Toad to be shown with 3D World." If 3D World comes to pass and nothing is shown, I'm fully expecting "They haven't shown any newcomers yet, they're holding him back for later" or "He's an unlockable, of course he's not being shown yet."

As much as I love Ridley, I'm expecting the same with at least a few people if he's shown as a stage hazard. Even Oasis said he doesn't want to fall into that trap.
Well, with Toad, people are only giving him consideration still is because of what Sakurai said in the Pic of the Day, that some of her moves may be changed. I doubt this means Toad, probably just the animations and regular attacks.

While, in the slight possibility, it could be a hint towards Toad, it's still extremely unlikely, and I doubt he'll be back. I'm 99% sure he's not gonna be in, and it will go to 100% once we see another pic of him on the site.
 

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I have high doubts of Toad at this point. His chances are slim, and will be even more slim if he isn't revealed by the release of Super Mario 3D World. I'm not going to be absolutely certain of it though, unless a newcomer is released along with an anniversary/game release prior to SM3DW, (IIRC Little Mac has a chance of being revealed in November) and Toad isn't during the release of SM3DW, at which point I'll be 100% sure he won't be getting in.
 

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Until the game comes out with no playable or Toad is specifically said by Sakurai that he absolutely will not be playable, I'll just go with "Maybe he could get in" as my main stance.

Obviously his chances are low, but until they're indefinitely 0% I hold hope for him.
 

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Shhh I'm just going into the fetal position until Isaac is announced

Anyone feel free to abort me
So what will you do if he doesn't make it in?

I'm thinking you'll disappear into nonexistence due to time rolling back as you grow smaller and smaller and smaller...
 

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So what will you do if he doesn't make it in?

I'm thinking you'll disappear into nonexistence due to time rolling back as you grow smaller and smaller and smaller...
Maybe he'll get so small he implodes and starts growing larger and larger again
 

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Are we debating what'll Maureen to be if Sakurai screws me over? Here's what'll happen. I will shrink into singularity, thus forming a black hole that will destroy the world in my grief.
 
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