Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[The Original Robot boy]

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

You mean a hairy palm.

I was going to say that "This post gave me AIDS", but that could possibly offend TumblrFamous and Shorts.

 

[Morbi]

Purin > Jigglypuff

Purin = Jigglypuff.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

I was going to say that "This post gave me AIDS", but that could possibly offend TumblrFamous and Shorts.

Who gives a **** if people get offended?

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[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Still dosen't mean they didn't use a character who is still originally part of Twilight princess yes its drawing but its still a design when design a character for a game don't you have to make artwork of design before making a graphical design of that character?

And how we do we know that there was no artwork of Toon Sheik? We just know her exact name was in the data.

You still missed the point anyway; TP!Sheik does not exist as a character outside of Smash just like Giga Bowser doesn't exist outside of Smash. There is no real difference in this case. They are SSB-only characters. If Sakurai can put in characters who are not in a game prior, why couldn't he ever had done that to Toon Sheik?

See what I said down below as well. It notes what Toon Sheik is like.

How are you going to make the Mewtwo thing an argument if you feel that way about Sheik? This is kind of the same thing. Mewtwo was meant to be in Brawl. Sheik was meant to be in Twilight Princess. They are absent in their respective games, it doesn't change initial plans though.

Of course it doesn't.

But those aren't related here. That's connecting two paths that have zip to do with each other. Sheik planned for Brawl is only the same situation as Toon Sheik was planned for Brawl. Both of them have information that we know makes it so they were planned to be. That's all they have in common. We know they were both planned for their respective games, as we have something to show that.

We have zero data to show Tetra was going to be a fighter in Brawl, and you know, I've asked countless times for this Final Smash information.

You cannot win on the Toon Sheik bit no matter what(because there's nothing that can be convincing as an argument no matter in this case. You have zero proof she wasn't planned, but we have proof she was), but you can provide information on the other Final Smash. Start citing something.

 

[Johnknight1]

*starts singing*​

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EVERY DAY AND EVERY WAY!!!​

EVERY AIDS IS A MOMENT IN A LIFETIME!!!​

 

[Morbi]

Who gives a **** if people get offended?

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America. Everything is censorship this censorship that. Even this site has a filter. My sister called black people African-Americans (history class) and a student got offended and said that they were black, not African Americans. Haha... what? I don't know why people get so sensitive about just menial things.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

And how we do we know that there was no artwork of Toon Sheik? We just know her exact name was in the data.

You still missed the point anyway; TP!Sheik does not exist as a character outside of Smash just like Giga Bowser doesn't exist outside of Smash. There is no real difference in this case. They are SSB-only characters. If Sakurai can put in characters who are not in a game prior, why couldn't he ever had done that to Toon Sheik?

See what I said down below as well. It notes what Toon Sheik is like.


Of course it doesn't.

But those aren't related here. That's connecting two paths that have zip to do with each other. Sheik planned for Brawl is only the same situation as Toon Sheik was planned for Brawl. Both of them have information that we know makes it so they were planned to be. That's all they have in common. We know they were both planned for their respective games, as we have something to show that.

We have zero data to show Tetra was going to be a fighter in Brawl, and you know, I've asked countless times for this Final Smash information.

You cannot win on the Toon Sheik bit no matter what(because there's nothing that can be convincing as an argument no matter in this case. You have zero proof she wasn't planned, but we have proof she was), but you can provide information on the other Final Smash. Start citing something.

Well i agree and disagree on your post and statement on that but all it says toon sheik unless theres a model design of her or atleast more information on that data its just a name nothing more and Twilight princess sheik exist if she didnt then artwork they followed from the original idea of twilight princess wouldn't have been use there fore sheik for brawl would've been completely different

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Who gives a **** if people get offended?

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I'd blame Canada for the sake of Sheila Broflovski.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

America. Everything is censorship this censorship that. Even this site has a filter. My sister called black people African-Americans (history class) and a student got offended and said that they were black, not African Americans. Haha... what? I don't know why people get so sensitive about just menial things.

Funny i'm african american aka black person yet neither offends me

 

[Morbi]

And how we do we know that there was no artwork of Toon Sheik? We just know her exact name was in the data.

You still missed the point anyway; TP!Sheik does not exist as a character outside of Smash just like Giga Bowser doesn't exist outside of Smash. There is no real difference in this case. They are SSB-only characters. If Sakurai can put in characters who are not in a game prior, why couldn't he ever had done that to Toon Sheik?

See what I said down below as well. It notes what Toon Sheik is like.


Of course it doesn't.

But those aren't related here. That's connecting two paths that have zip to do with each other. Sheik planned for Brawl is only the same situation as Toon Sheik was planned for Brawl. Both of them have information that we know makes it so they were planned to be. That's all they have in common. We know they were both planned for their respective games, as we have something to show that.

We have zero data to show Tetra was going to be a fighter in Brawl, and you know, I've asked countless times for this Final Smash information.

You cannot win on the Toon Sheik bit no matter what(because there's nothing that can be convincing as an argument no matter in this case. You have zero proof she wasn't planned, but we have proof she was), but you can provide information on the other Final Smash. Start citing something.

I think there has been some misconception about my intentions. I am not trying to debate anything of the sort. I have no idea what I would cite, I was just criticizing certain things about your comment. Not the notion in its entirety. If you were asking me for citations or Final Smash information, you are most certainly asking the wrong person. I happen to agree with you.

 

[Oasis_S]

Scalies are dumb like what you think you're a lizard haha.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

I think there has been some misconception about my intentions. I am not trying to debate anything of the sort. I have no idea what I would cite, I was just criticizing certain things about your comment. Not the notion in its entirety. If you were asking me for citations or Final Smash information, you are most certainly asking the wrong person. I happen to agree with you.

Agree what you want to agree on i'm not here to win the people just say which i believe or think is right

 

[Frostwraith]

America. Everything is censorship this censorship that. Even this site has a filter. My sister called black people African-Americans (history class) and a student got offended and said that they were black, not African Americans. Haha... what? I don't know why people get so sensitive about just menial things.

Wow, that's pretty damn stupid. People get so easily offended over such trivialities.

 

[Morbi]

Agree what you want to agree on i'm not here to win the people just say which i believe or think is right

Haha... I really need to stop commenting about things I am not passionate about. I really don't care about the Toon Zelda stuff at all. Jigglypuff is my OTP.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Well i agree and disagree on your post and statement on that but all it says toon sheik unless theres a model design of her or atleast more information on that data its just a name nothing more and Twilight princess sheik exist if she didnt then artwork they followed from the original idea of twilight princess wouldn't have been use there fore sheik for brawl would've been completely different

Your post is kind of incoherent, honestly. No offense intended, but I can barely make it out.

They're in the same position, because they were both planned for their exact games, and have an equal amount of data. One has an exact name, where every other name is accurate to the character entirely. The other has a concept art, but her data doesn't exist(apparently?).

Now, I've asked this over 5 times already. Could you please cite this Final Smash data?

I don't care if you agree or disagree. Toon Sheik exists in the data and nobody can say otherwise. This part's a fact. We know Sakurai has made original characters(especially playable), even since the first game.(Master Hand, anyone?) To say he can't make Toon Sheik up is just beyond ludicrous and doesn't fit his actions at all. I agree with you that having Toon Sheik in over Tetra would've not been very good. I disagree there couldn't have been a Toon Sheik when there's zero data on Tetra relevant to the actual player character data.

Again, it's a huge assumption based upon nothing concrete. Sakurai thinking of putting in a clone due to him specifically listing the clone name makes sense. Him putting in Tetra with zero data referencing any fighter data towards her, no known plans, because she just happens to exist? It doesn't make sense. Literally. It's still one of the worst possible assumptions these days that still is void of logic. What logical reason would he have to not name the data Tetra if that's what he honestly meant? He knows who the character is. He's made clones before, and the fact he was going to make Toon Zelda, who would've probably turned out near identical to regular Zelda, means him making a clone of her other half is literally within his repertoire of actions.

Tetra was a full trophy and Sticker as well. The course happens to be the area she naturally lives in. If he really meant her, why wouldn't he just name the data that? I can believe he would've changed his mind on Toon Sheik at one time, and turned her into Tetra. This is very possible. But there just isn't a possible way at this point that he never meant for a Toon Sheik to be in. The fact he named the file that is just... way too much to ignore. Again, the idea Tetra was definitely going to be in if he finished it is too hard to believe. The idea that she might have made it in is at least believable.

I think there has been some misconception about my intentions. I am not trying to debate anything of the sort. I have no idea what I would cite, I was just criticizing certain things about your comment. Not the notion in its entirety. If you were asking me for citations or Final Smash information, you are most certainly asking the wrong person. I happen to agree with you.

I wasn't asking you to cite this so-called Final Smash. I was asking the other guy who mentioned the final smash data.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

Wow, that's pretty damn stupid. People get so easily offended over such trivialities.

Exactly

 

[Oasis_S]

If you you think people being offended is stupid and you are offended by stupid people are you stupid????

 

[Frostwraith]

Welp, dedekong on GameFAQs posted this:

If Megaman can be playable then Kid Icarus can get 4 reps.

My reaction:

 

[TumblrFamous]

I have been posting stuff and it is not working. I am betting a large amount of money that when I post this, it will work.

Edit: DAMN IT.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

Your post is kind of incoherent, honestly. No offense intended, but I can barely make it out.

They're in the same position, because they were both planned for their exact games, and have an equal amount of data. One has an exact name, where every other name is accurate to the character entirely. The other has a concept art, but her data doesn't exist(apparently?).

Now, I've asked this over 5 times already. Could you please cite this Final Smash data?

I don't care if you agree or disagree. Toon Sheik exists in the data and nobody can say otherwise. This part's a fact. We know Sakurai has made original characters(especially playable), even since the first game.(Master Hand, anyone?) To say he can't make Toon Sheik up is just beyond ludicrous and doesn't fit his actions at all. I agree with you that having Toon Sheik in over Tetra would've not been very good. I disagree there couldn't have been a Toon Sheik when there's zero data on Tetra relevant to the actual player character data.

Again, it's a huge assumption based upon nothing concrete. Sakurai thinking of putting in a clone due to him specifically listing the clone name makes sense. Him putting in Tetra with zero data referencing any fighter data towards her, no known plans, because she just happens to exist? It doesn't make sense. Literally. It's still one of the worst possible assumptions these days that still is void of logic. What logical reason would he have to not name the data Tetra if that's what he honestly meant? He knows who the character is. He's made clones before, and the fact he was going to make Toon Zelda, who would've probably turned out near identical to regular Zelda, means him making a clone of her other half is literally within his repertoire of actions.

Tetra was a full trophy and Sticker as well. The course happens to be the area she naturally lives in. If he really meant her, why wouldn't he just name the data that? I can believe he would've changed his mind on Toon Sheik at one time, and turned her into Tetra. This is very possible. But there just isn't a possible way at this point that he never meant for a Toon Sheik to be in. The fact he named the file that is just... way too much to ignore. Again, the idea Tetra was definitely going to be in if he finished it is too hard to believe. The idea that she might have made it in is at least believable.



I wasn't asking you to cite this so-called Final Smash. I was asking the other guy who mentioned the final smash data.

like i said i have to search over google like looking through a ocean this was like a year ago or more back when i found about the pirate ship final smash all i know that it was showing information not pics or anything of course it be impossible since data is barely loose on games especially on super smash bros series and still about tetra/ Toon sheik the data still stands as a name thats all we know unless you found images of toon sheik then specalation still stands closer were it is if tetra is toon zelda then sheik is technically on bill fit this name unless you have model of toon sheik and as for TP sheik yep if nothing is followed when making a character you start from scracth the theme from brawl zelda characters was obviously from TP and sheik model is use exactly from the concept scrap art of TP so the sheik you see in brawl orignally still TP character like i said before make something you got draw it before you make it a graphic design aka a 3d model

 

[Fastblade5035]

 

[The Original Robot boy]

Ok im shutting up about the data fiasco due to this

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

like i said i have to search over google like looking through a ocean this was like a year ago or more back when i found about the pirate ship final smash all i know that it was showing information not pics or anything of course it be impossible since data is barely loose on games especially on super smash bros series and still about tetra/ Toon sheik the data still stands as a name thats all we know unless you found images of toon sheik then specalation still stands closer were it is if tetra is toon zelda then sheik is technically on bill fit this name unless you have model of toon sheik and as for TP sheik yep if nothing is followed when making a character you start from scracth the theme from brawl zelda characters was obviously from TP and sheik model is use exactly from the concept scrap art of TP so the sheik you see in brawl orignally still TP character like i said before make something you got draw it before you make it a graphic design aka a 3d model

Post it when you can.

It depends the data. But it being based around Pirate Ship means ultimately nothing in this case.

The actual data being accurately shown as Toon Sheik is actual proof. You don't need some stupid picture to know that Sakurai thought of her and put her name in. There kind of is no actual way it was a codename when every single character lacks a codename. It just doesn't make sense and defies all form of logic at that point.

It's just people not willing to accept that Sakurai makes original clones(after he already did with Giga Bowser and Crazy Hand(yes, he's almost exactly the same as Master Hand, with a few new moves) for no reason.

Let's not forget most of the other bosses in Brawl who existed. Is it really believable for Sakurai to make an original clone? At all? Why? Because they want to believe a character that was not ever included in Brawl(to our knowledge) was in over a character who actually was in the data? Or the fact that only one character in the data could have a codename? None of it makes any logical sense. It's all fallible entirely.

I actually don't think Toon Sheik would've gotten in in the end. But, however, nobody can say that for sure. We at least know the data is accurate.

Also, let's just stop the conversation after this. I did not see your reply about attempting to stop the debate when I posted this. Talk to you later.

He's spying on Roy.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Who's dedekong? Is he a leaker?

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Welp, dedekong on GameFAQs posted this:



My reaction:

Dedekong? More like Dededong!

 

[The Original Robot boy]

you know what would surprise me if sakurai put vaati in brawl or atleast midna

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

you know what would surprise me if sakurai put vaati in brawl or atleast midna

I'd still say Tingle at this point.

Impa has a chance since he owns Skyward Sword.

Do we know of what other games he has Zelda-wise?

 

[TumblrFamous]

I'd still say Tingle at this point.

Impa has a chance since he owns Skyward Sword.

Do we know of what other games he has Zelda-wise?

He owns SS?


Also, who is dedekong?

 

[Berserker.]

Anyone friendly enough to give me a rundown on what happened in the past pages? I don't have that much time to browse

 

[TumblrFamous]

Anyone friendly enough to give me a rundown on what happened in the past pages? I don't have that much time to browse

I...I don't even know.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Anyone friendly enough to give me a rundown on what happened in the past pages? I don't have that much time to browse

Oh, and some internet celebrity (Shokio?) paid us a visit!

Smooth Criminal

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

He owns SS?


Also, who is dedekong?

Yeah. He posted a Twitter about some games he picked up. SS was among one of them.

It doesn't actually mean anything for Impa, but maybe he might actually consider her important enough to appear in the game, which I honestly hope so.

She didn't even get a damn Sticker in Brawl. What the heck?

 

[Metal Overlord]

Donkey Kong x Juice

lmfao

 

[The Original Robot boy]

Yeah. He posted a Twitter about some games he picked up. SS was among one of them.

It doesn't actually mean anything for Impa, but maybe he might actually consider her important enough to appear in the game, which I honestly hope so.

She didn't even get a damn Sticker in Brawl. What the heck?

i dont think he meant own probably meant he work on or with developing Skyward sword

 

[Moon Monkey]

Oh, and some internet celebrity (Shokio?) paid us a visit!


Smooth Criminal

Smooth Criminal always with the SSPN exclusive recaps.

I wish the vid was longer, i would have bars for days.

 

[TumblrFamous]

Yeah. He posted a Twitter about some games he picked up. SS was among one of them.

It doesn't actually mean anything for Impa, but maybe he might actually consider her important enough to appear in the game, which I honestly hope so.

She didn't even get a damn Sticker in Brawl. What the heck?

OH. I thought you meant he had like legal rights to it. That makes more sense.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

i dont think he meant own probably meant he work on or with developing Skyward sword

Can somebody provide the credits only for SS? Because I don't remember Sakurai working on it. I remember him getting a copy of the game and that was it.

And no, it was just a picture of SS's box. There was no indication he was working on the game at all. There was at best an indication he has a copy.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

Can somebody provide the credits only for SS? Because I don't remember Sakurai working on it. I remember him getting a copy of the game and that was it.

And no, it was just a picture of SS's box. There was no indication he was working on the game at all. There was at best an indication he has a copy.

So he owns a copy oh i thought you meant he owns right sorry but the way you word it made seem like it he now owns rights to the Zelda series

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

So he owns a copy oh i thought you meant he owns right sorry but the way you word it made seem like it he now owns rights to the Zelda series

Oh, lordy. I should've worded that better.

Sorry about that.

Yeah, not what I meant. I meant he has a copy of the game and may have played it.(I don't think he said he has?)

All I'm saying is Impa's chances are semi-decent for once. While I would like to believe she had a chance before the earlier games, she has zero mentions or cameos in some form. I wasn't expecting one in 64, at least(not that she couldn't have made cameos in Hyrule Castle's background like King Dedede did for Dreamland), but Melee, she was pretty important to Zelda herself. I can believe that since Ganondorf was last minute, none of the Sages had any key importance to Sakurai, as he didn't have that much time. Brawl, though... why not a Sticker? At the very least... he mentions tons of other guys, like Skull Kid... yeah, it's just odd. Impa actually matters more than a lot of the one-offs like Saria, and appears in more games. How has she not gotten a Sticker or a Trophy yet? Or a mention in Zelda's trophy, at least in Melee?(or Sheik's). My only guess is he didn't think she was that important. Tingle he does, obviously, giving him a Trophy, Sticker, Assist Trophy, and Stage Element status.(this is also why I think if there is a fifth slot, Tingle does have a decent chance. He also seems violent enough to fight, considering he does attack you as an AT...)