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Oh, lordy. I should've worded that better. :facepalm:

Sorry about that.

Yeah, not what I meant. I meant he has a copy of the game and may have played it.(I don't think he said he has?)

All I'm saying is Impa's chances are semi-decent for once. While I would like to believe she had a chance before the earlier games, she has zero mentions or cameos in some form. I wasn't expecting one in 64, at least(not that she couldn't have made cameos in Hyrule Castle's background like King Dedede did for Dreamland), but Melee, she was pretty important to Zelda herself. I can believe that since Ganondorf was last minute, none of the Sages had any key importance to Sakurai, as he didn't have that much time. Brawl, though... why not a Sticker? At the very least... he mentions tons of other guys, like Skull Kid... yeah, it's just odd. Impa actually matters more than a lot of the one-offs like Saria, and appears in more games. How has she not gotten a Sticker or a Trophy yet? Or a mention in Zelda's trophy, at least in Melee?(or Sheik's). My only guess is he didn't think she was that important. Tingle he does, obviously, giving him a Trophy, Sticker, Assist Trophy, and Stage Element status.(this is also why I think if there is a fifth slot, Tingle does have a decent chance. He also seems violent enough to fight, considering he does attack you as an AT...)
Impa is nice and all but i prefer Tetra over impa as a playable Super smash bros character
 

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Impa can do this, but I'd rather have Tetra and her Toon Zelda counterpart as a playable character since they were planned to be in Brawl. IF Toon Link is a starter, then both toon girls would make sense as an unlockable switching duo.
 

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Impa is nice and all but i prefer Tetra over impa as a playable Super smash bros character
I'd rather somebody other than Zelda herself outside of her natural form being Sheik.

Tingle, Impa, Vaati, Skull Kid(Majora's Mask), Ghirahim. All awesome choices. Tetra's not needed since Toon Link is back anyway. WW got its needed rep by this point.

Tingle reps MM and his own series(meaning he could get a new symbol). Impa is indeed a really unique character that could take on a form of a barrier maiden when combined with a ninja. It'd be more akin to Jago's style in Killer Instinct compared to Sheik's more traditional Ninja style. All of her moves are like a regular ninja. But having a magical ninja would be neat. Vaati could actually be a pretty neat magical swordsman, and he has multiple forms, so he could have a wide variety of attacks. Skull Kid I can't think of much for, but he has music, so... okay, he's a cool character, at least. Ghirahim is a very interesting character that could make a creepy yet strong swordsman who could do more than just swing a sword. I can think of more than magic. I'll put the next bit in spoilers;

Since Ghirahim is a sword, he can do related stuff to that. He could be wielded by Demise for attacks, a Final Smash as is, he could talk to Fi as a taunt, or even wield Fi for a few moves. Keep in mind I have yet to play the game, but I'm sure people who know more about it can make a good moveset.


Tetra doesn't feel much more than a generic pirate. While that might work, she's still a Zelda as is, so I don't find much reason to put her in anymore. Especially with more unique choices. Likewise, going on the pirate route, I'd rather have Captain Syrup take that role, since a new Wario character would be even better.
 

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Impa can do this, but I'd rather have Tetra and her Toon Zelda counterpart as a playable character since they were planned to be in Brawl. IF Toon Link is a starter, then both toon girls would make sense as an unlockable switching duo.

Lol i just enjoy Tetra because of her personality and that shes a pirate it was different and unexpecting to the zelda franchise and her spunky attitude makes her cute




I'd rather somebody other than Zelda herself outside of her natural form being Sheik.

Tingle, Impa, Vaati, Skull Kid(Majora's Mask), Ghirahim. All awesome choices. Tetra's not needed since Toon Link is back anyway. WW got its needed rep by this point.

Tingle reps MM and his own series(meaning he could get a new symbol). Impa is indeed a really unique character that could take on a form of a barrier maiden when combined with a ninja. It'd be more akin to Jago's style in Killer Instinct compared to Sheik's more traditional Ninja style. All of her moves are like a regular ninja. But having a magical ninja would be neat. Vaati could actually be a pretty neat magical swordsman, and he has multiple forms, so he could have a wide variety of attacks. Skull Kid I can't think of much for, but he has music, so... okay, he's a cool character, at least. Ghirahim is a very interesting character that could make a creepy yet strong swordsman who could do more than just swing a sword. I can think of more than magic. I'll put the next bit in spoilers;

Since Ghirahim is a sword, he can do related stuff to that. He could be wielded by Demise for attacks, a Final Smash as is, he could talk to Fi as a taunt, or even wield Fi for a few moves. Keep in mind I have yet to play the game, but I'm sure people who know more about it can make a good moveset.



Tetra doesn't feel much more than a generic pirate. While that might work, she's still a Zelda as is, so I don't find much reason to put her in anymore. Especially with more unique choices. Likewise, going on the pirate route, I'd rather have Captain Syrup take that role, since a new Wario character would be even better.
Skull kid idk its odd he wasn't even made into a higher role until Majoras mask even in ocarina he was just a background character impa well she just be sheik only in skyward sword form tingle would be hilarious but still as i said with skull kid he barely holds any significance even in the zelda games yes he had his own games but they didn't put much on or his presence in being recognize in the gaming world grihiam does show well as antagonist still he was not threating as some put him only odd ,demise well he barely made apperance only at the very end really yes i beat skyward sword and i know this reasoning i say tetra because of someone that holds a significance to zelda but same time changes the attitude about her or maybe Midna she was so mysterious and build more closely then any character and later she grows own you
 

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Lol i just enjoy Tetra because of her personality and that shes a pirate it was different and unexpecting to the zelda franchise and her spunky attitude makes her cute.
True, she was a great character in the game and had better character development than Sheik. Still have better chances than another spunky pirate girl. *looks at Captain Syrup*
 

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Skull kid idk its odd he wasn't even made into a higher role until Majoras mask even in ocarina he was just a background character impa well she just be sheik only in skyward sword form tingle would be hilarious but still as i said with skull kid he barely holds any significance even in the zelda games yes he had his own games but they didn't put much on or his presence in being recognize in the gaming world grihiam does show well as antagonist still he was not threating as some put him only odd ,demise well he barely made apperance only at the very end really yes i beat skyward sword and i know this reasoning i say tetra because of someone that holds a significance to zelda but same time changes the attitude about her or maybe Midna she was so mysterious and build more closely then any character and later she grows own you
Gah. Coherency. Use better sentence structure please. >_<

Impa is not a Sheik in Skyward Sword. Impa was never a Sheik to begin with. Sheik is how Zelda hides from Ganondorf. Impa is Zelda's protector. Their roles are unique. Gameplay-wise, I don't remember Impa being just a Sheik as is. In fact, I remember them being different as is. Sheik seemed to have little magic overall besides the ability to teach it, but so could Malon... Impa, from what I remember, has a lot of magical powers. I know that Sheik technically has some magic, but that's because she's Zelda. When does Sheik show off any real magical moves?

Now, I know haven't played SS, but people can tell you that Impa has more magical abilities shown instead of "maybe she does" at best. They have the Ninja Vanish and both are based upon Ninja in common. I really wouldn't call them similar at all by this point.

Tingle is indeed hilariously awesome. :p

Skull Kid is different, but he feels closer to Yoshi to me. He's a significant version of one, especially in MM. He plays a role to the main character similar to how Yoshi does to Mario. Obviously, there's differences here and there. I don't consider him nothing but some generic guy. And Skull Kid is the main villain of one game. That's pretttttttyyyy significant.

Midna I did forget to mention, but I gave reasons to not have her before. She's connected to Wolf Link. I'd like no more than two playable Links in any form(or at least two slots max with a playable Link each. I'd be fine if Toon Link had Masked Link instead, mind you).

Ghirahim is rather neat, but you missed my point with Demise anyway. He'd be fun to add to Ghirahim's moveset.
 

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Gah. Coherency. Use better sentence structure please. >_<

Impa is not a Sheik in Skyward Sword. Impa was never a Sheik to begin with. Sheik is how Zelda hides from Ganondorf. Impa is Zelda's protector. Their roles are unique. Gameplay-wise, I don't remember Impa being just a Sheik as is. In fact, I remember them being different as is. Sheik seemed to have little magic overall besides the ability to teach it, but so could Malon... Impa, from what I remember, has a lot of magical powers. I know that Sheik technically has some magic, but that's because she's Zelda. When does Sheik show off any real magical moves?

Now, I know haven't played SS, but people can tell you that Impa has more magical abilities shown instead of "maybe she does" at best. They have the Ninja Vanish and both are based upon Ninja in common. I really wouldn't call them similar at all by this point.

Tingle is indeed hilariously awesome. :p

Skull Kid is different, but he feels closer to Yoshi to me. He's a significant version of one, especially in MM. He plays a role to the main character similar to how Yoshi does to Mario. Obviously, there's differences here and there. I don't consider him nothing but some generic guy. And Skull Kid is the main villain of one game. That's pretttttttyyyy significant.

Midna I did forget to mention, but I gave reasons to not have her before. She's connected to Wolf Link. I'd like no more than two playable Links in any form(or at least two slots max with a playable Link each. I'd be fine if Toon Link had Masked Link instead, mind you).

Ghirahim is rather neat, but you missed my point with Demise anyway. He'd be fun to add to Ghirahim's moveset.
well blah blah im tired of talking alot! TETRA FOREVER!
 

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Mighty No. 9 reached another goal! Hopefully we can reach the support character.
 

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I'll take a Tingle to go. I've found him more interesting in more than one single game. Tetra wasn't even worth noting in PH by that point. Just in WW. Tingle has more notable appearances and wins for me every time.

I'd only pick Tetra if I want more female representation, which isn't a very good reason to choose a character, IMO.(well, especially for Smash)
 

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I'll take a Tingle to go. I've found him more interesting in more than one single game. Tetra wasn't even worth noting in PH by that point. Just in WW. Tingle has more notable appearances and wins for me every time.

I'd only pick Tetra if I want more female representation, which isn't a very good reason to choose a character, IMO.(well, especially for Smash)
I disliked tingle alot not just in wind waker but the other games aswell
 

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In the end...im just glad we did NOT get a Toon Zelda/Toon Sheik. I remember cringing when I first head about those two lol. Tetra could have worked I guess but honestly im just glad they got scrapped. Also I feel like I may be the minority here by thinking the Zelda series won't be getting any extra characters added....
 

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In the end...im just glad we did NOT get a Toon Zelda/Toon Sheik. I remember cringing when I first head about those two lol. Tetra could have worked I guess but honestly im just glad they got scrapped. Also I feel like I may be the minority here by thinking the Zelda series won't be getting any extra characters added....
Yeah lets see which Mother character is being added i mean atleast i got my blue bomber in there if Tetra or midna get in there then yay if not oh well a guy can dream
 

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I disliked tingle alot not just in wind waker but the other games aswell
At least he had multiple games where he did something. Let's give him credit; He starred in 3 games. What other character besides Link can boast that? As for Zelda, she's playable in two games, one where you don't directly control her much at all(ST), and a CD-i games that counts for nothing. No, wait, two CD-i games. In Zelda I and Zelda II style. Anyway, you control Tingle in WW in a similar way you control Zelda. Weak controls without fully playing as the character, and entirely based around Link. Unlike when you play characters like Medli, who you full control.

It's just odd that Zelda herself could never be control directly in a Nintendo-published Zelda game.(I specify this wording for a reason. The CD-i games aren't popular, but they are damn real in every way and are still Zelda games. But eh.

When wasn't he?
Fixed. He was always a thing. ;)
 

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Tingle would be stupidly hilarious to have in Smash. The reactions to his reveal would be entertaining as well.

He could have an interesting moveset and it'd be fun to beat him up. (if you don't like him)

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At least he had multiple games where he did something. Let's give him credit; He starred in 3 games. What other character besides Link can boast that? As for Zelda, she's playable in two games, one where you don't directly control her much at all(ST), and a CD-i games that counts for nothing. No, wait, two CD-i games. In Zelda I and Zelda II style. Anyway, you control Tingle in WW in a similar way you control Zelda. Weak controls without fully playing as the character, and entirely based around Link. Unlike when you play characters like Medli, who you full control.

It's just odd that Zelda herself could never be control directly in a Nintendo-published Zelda game.(I specify this wording for a reason. The CD-i games aren't popular, but they are damn real in every way and are still Zelda games. But eh.
Cdi wasn't even actually part of the orginal series how dare you mention such a strange yet very bad zelda game and for that
 

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Imagine a world where Tingle is playable, but not Ridley. So much rage.

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Cdi wasn't even actually part of the orginal series how dare you mention such a strange yet very bad zelda game and for that
Not every Zelda game is part of the original series at all. BS Zelda: The Stone Tablets is not in continuity.

The only thing that could be called bad for those who know of the game is those who played it. I assume you've played them, right?

Not a fan of calling games bad without playing them first.

And yes, those are Zeldas only fully playable roles in the history of the Zelda series.(keep in mind the CD-i games are not actual fan-games either. The courts forced Nintendo to allow them to use the characters. They're obviously non-canon, but they don't count as fake or fan-games. Doesn't work that way)
 

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Not every Zelda game is part of the original series at all. BS Zelda: The Stone Tablets is not in continuity.

The only thing that could be called bad for those who know of the game is those who played it. I assume you've played them, right?

Not a fan of calling games bad without playing them first.

And yes, those are Zeldas only fully playable roles in the history of the Zelda series.(keep in mind the CD-i games are not actual fan-games either. The courts forced Nintendo to allow them to use the characters. They're obviously non-canon, but they don't count as fake or fan-games. Doesn't work that way)
I have, and I know
 

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I have, and I know
How?

You can PM me the answer for obvious reasons.

Also, it's nice to see a person who has played the game who actually said it was bad. Practically every time I hear people saying the games are bad, it's because they never played it and are taking reviews as if they are the official stance of everyone in the world. :facepalm:

But interesting. But hey, I thought the first game was amazing, and found TP kind of eh.(the gameplay was nice, but the amount of linearity bored me. It's not a bad game, but could've been better. OOT felt too much like "let's show off the graphics and the idea of being in 3D" without all the best parts. The story and characterization was very meh, and the gameplay was fun, but I found WW to do everything way better. Hell, I'd say WW had two weaknesses; You could barely swim, and aiming with the GameCube Control stick was pretty hard).
 

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I hate Western Smash speculation. So much.
Somehow I doubt Eastern Smash speculation is much better. Probably worse than the former in some regards, like elitism or something. "We're Japanese like Sakurai, therefore our opinions matter more!" Even if it is true to a degree.
 

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How?

You can PM me the answer for obvious reasons.

But interesting. But hey, I thought the first game was amazing, and found TP kind of eh.(the gameplay was nice, but the amount of linearity bored me. It's not a bad game, but could've been better. OOT felt too much like "let's show off the graphics and the idea of being in 3D" without all the best parts. The story and characterization was very meh, and the gameplay was fun, but I found WW to do everything way better. Hell, I'd say WW had two weaknesses; You could barely swim, and aiming with the GameCube Control stick was pretty hard).
Windwaker was my first game i liked more then others so far still today even if everyone didn't like its kidish look though it had more darker turn than everyone thought after that, i enjoy twilight princess but not something i would play really right away like wind waker as for skyward sword it was annoying but great story but i had problems especially with the swordplay and issues with having to focus so hard that it was making me look like i'm having a seizure standing up i loved Ocarina time and its remake on 3ds only problem is 3ds version and its dumb gyro controls other then that it sits right next to my wind waker as majora mask it was really fun but short way to easy i was able get every single mask and beat it still love it though
 

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I hate Western Smash speculation. So much.
The Cowboys are worth it, though. :troll:
Windwaker was my first game i liked more then others so far still today even if everyone didn't like its kidish look though it had more darker turn than everyone thought after that, i enjoy twilight princess but not something i would play really right away like wind waker as for skyward sword it was annoying but great story but i had problems especially with the swordplay and issues with having to focus so hard that it was making me look like i'm having a seizure standing up i loved Ocarina time and its remake on 3ds only problem is 3ds version and its dumb gyro controls other then that it sits right next to my wind waker as majora mask it was really fun but short way to easy i was able get every single mask and beat it still love it though
...I'm talking about the CD-i games. Have you played those??
 

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The Cowboys are worth it, though. :troll:


...I'm talking about the CD-i games. Have you played those??
a bit of zelda the wand of gamelon , and the faces of evil it was so strange odd controls were confusing and very ugly story sometimes confuses me and the sound would even give me a headache all in all
lol but seriously not my fun series of zelda games
 

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a bit of zelda the wand of gamelon , and the faces of evil it was so strange odd controls were confusing and very ugly story sometimes confuses me and the sound would even give me a headache all in all
lol but seriously not my fun series of zelda games
Ah, okay.

It's nice to see an informed opinion on them. I will play them when I get a chance. Knowing my luck, I'll probably like the overhead version at the very least. But hey, to each their own. :)
 

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Agreed i hope you'll enjoy it more than i did
I love playing Sonic 2006 and Shadow the Hedgehog. I'm not sure that'll be an issue. ;)

But then again, I form my own opinions on stuff and refuse to take "the general view" of games as if they're a relevant or useful thing to me. I don't care what the score average is. I care what the game is like when I play it. I love Quest 64 as well. Lagoon was a really fun but hyper hard game(like, Zelda II hard). Etc.
 

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I love playing Sonic 2006 and Shadow the Hedgehog. I'm not sure that'll be an issue. ;)

But then again, I form my own opinions on stuff and refuse to take "the general view" of games as if they're a relevant or useful thing to me. I don't care what the score average is. I care what the game is like when I play it. I love Quest 64 as well. Lagoon was a really fun but hyper hard game(like, Zelda II hard). Etc.
I love Zelda 2 and quest 64
 
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