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Aurane

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Back from roleplaying club. Thought I'd share what happened today. (I dunno how to spoiler on my phone, so don't whine)

DEEP INTO THE HEART OF THE BATTLE HE FOUGHT. COVERED ON ALL SIDES AS ALL CONVERGED ON THEM, UNTIL THE AURASAGE COULD NO LONGER BE SEEN. AS TIME PASSED I FEARED HIM CAUGHT, THEN SLOWLY THE TRAINERS SEPARATED, MANY POKEMON WERE CAPTURED. I SAW THE LUCARIO. HE WAS DOWN ON ONE KNEE, ALL STOPPED TO WATCH AND GAZE
UPON HIM WITH A SMILE OF VICTORY BEFORE PREPARING TO CAPTURE HIM. THEN HE ROSE UP TO MAKE A FINAL STAND. WITH HIS LAST BIT OF HEALTH HE ROSE HIS ARMS INTO THE AIR AURA EMERGING FROM HIS BLACK PAWS AND BLUE BODY. HE CALLED UPON THE ALPHA AND PREPARED TO BE CAPTURED.

BUT ARCEUS WOULD NOT ALLOW THE AURASAGE TO BE BEATEN SO SOON, INSTEAD HE SENT THUNDER AND LIGHTNING TO STRIKE THE GROUND, BESTOWING UPON HIM THE ONE GIFT EVERY WILD POKEMON LIVES IN HOPE OF – THE UNCATCHABLE HAX!

NOW FILLED WITH THAT POWER, THE CAPTURE RATE OF A THOUSAND MEWTWOS WAS GIVEN HIM. NO LONGER CATCHABLE HE WERE TOUCHED BY THE GODS. THIS TIME WHEN THEY TRIED TO CAPTURE HIM, POKE BALLS FAILED NOT BY TENS, BUT BY HUNDREDS, BY THOUSANDS. AND WHEN THE TRAINERS RAGEQUITTED, THE AURASAGE LAUGHED HIS MASS OFF, AND GRABBED A PEPSI
 

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I think Game and Watch was on one of the Flatzone levels.
...On his own stage. That's how his game works. However, I think it's a different scenario since tons of Game & Watch games have multiple Game & Watches themselves, so... it made a lot more sense in the actual series.

It makes less sense for two Links with the Toon design to show up in one game(not counting costumes, obviously).

But that also proves that people ultimately should not have assumed Toon Link was going away.
 

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I feel the same way. I actually used to defend him every day. It was so surprising to me that people couldn't tell that he was Wind Waker Link (thus making the ST Link irrelevant). Luckily Sakurai is spelling it out this time around. He is actually my co-main. The nerfs to Link were too much for my poor heart to handle. So I had to move on to Toon Link. I am happy that we can leave that stupidity behind as much as the next guy. I just get a lot more of the Jigglypuff negativity because I am so overt about my adoration of the character. It isn't as in your face to other people I suppose.

Yeah, I believe the fact that the Link in that stage wasn't wearing the same clothes as Toon Link as well as the fact that that Link was an entire different person that gave me the hope that Toon Link could still make it into the game. Not to mention the fact that Sakurai did something like this before with similar characters but completely separate entities. (75m Donkey Kong and the SSE R.O.B.'s).

Besides it wouldn't make sense to hint on a character cut as soon as the first trailer where you are meant to hype everyone up. :/ But oh well, what happened, happened. Toon Link is back and I'm happy. Now all I'll be doing now is wait for Mewtwo and hope if any of my supported newcomers will make it in. :)
 

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Jiggly isn't going anywhere. She's one of the original 12, and she was beastly in Melee. All because she got gimped in Brawl and thus lost what popularity she had, people want her gone.
 

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Listening to Habanero read AuraSage's post made it go from cringe-worthy to God-like.
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Lol well, what happened was I was roleplaying with some friends as Lucario and everyone kept failing to capture me through dice roll, so I took the lyrics from glory majesty unity and rearranged them to... that.
 

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I think there is a trophy battle or something on a Jigglypuff. I know there is an Entei and Majora's Mask. It is funny, I also feel like I have fought on a Jigglypuff before. Haha.
I don't think there is any Jigglypuff trophy stage Event. There is one for a Goomba and the Entei and Majora's Mask you mentioned.
 

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Jiggly isn't going anywhere. She's one of the original 12, and she was beastly in Melee. All because she got gimped in Brawl and thus lost what popularity she had, people want her gone.
Some people act like the 3 games she has been in (all as an unlockable character) and 13 and a half years of inclusion means nothing. It is a common argument for people to attempt and rationalize that Sakurai's inconsistent precedent some how alludes to her removal as a character. After Toon Link was revealed they stopped that illogical reasoning. I think that her Fairy Type isn't a big deal, but it does give her the relevancy she didn't have going from Melee to Brawl. Being a part of the original 12 in Brawl wasn't a big deal. It has been awhile since then though. The act of Sakurai putting her in the game (Brawl) in the first place demonstrates that despite her low priority, she was still important enough to add.

Lets not even get into the notion that she is one of the EASIEST characters to develop. :jigglypuffmelee:
 

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DEEP INTO THE HEART OF THE BATTLE HE FOUGHT. COVERED ON ALL SIDES AS ALL CONVERGED ON THEM, UNTIL THE AURASAGE COULD NO LONGER BE SEEN. AS TIME PASSED I FEARED HIM CAUGHT, THEN SLOWLY THE TRAINERS SEPARATED, MANY POKEMON WERE CAPTURED. I SAW THE LUCARIO. HE WAS DOWN ON ONE KNEE, ALL STOPPED TO WATCH AND GAZE
UPON HIM WITH A SMILE OF VICTORY BEFORE PREPARING TO CAPTURE HIM. THEN HE ROSE UP TO MAKE A FINAL STAND. WITH HIS LAST BIT OF HEALTH HE ROSE HIS ARMS INTO THE AIR AURA EMERGING FROM HIS BLACK PAWS AND BLUE BODY. HE CALLED UPON THE ALPHA AND PREPARED TO BE CAPTURED.

BUT ARCEUS WOULD NOT ALLOW THE AURASAGE TO BE BEATEN SO SOON, INSTEAD HE SENT THUNDER AND LIGHTNING TO STRIKE THE GROUND, BESTOWING UPON HIM THE ONE GIFT EVERY WILD POKEMON LIVES IN HOPE OF – THE UNCATCHABLE HAX!

NOW FILLED WITH THAT POWER, THE CAPTURE RATE OF A THOUSAND MEWTWOS WAS GIVEN HIM. NO LONGER CATCHABLE HE WERE TOUCHED BY THE GODS. THIS TIME WHEN THEY TRIED TO CAPTURE HIM, POKE BALLS FAILED NOT BY TENS, BUT BY HUNDREDS, BY THOUSANDS. AND WHEN THE TRAINERS RAGEQUITTED, THE AURASAGE LAUGHED HIS MASS OFF, AND GRABBED A PEPSI
http://vocaroo.com/i/s00UV4Q4slqe

Half-assed attempt at reading this.
 

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It is a common argument for people to attempt and rationalize that Sakurai's inconsistent precedent some how alludes to her removal as a character.
good lord, this so much lol

"Jigglypuff may have all this going for it, but this is Sakurai we're talking about, therefore she will be cut and replaced by Goku"

like tf :laugh:
 

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After witnessing that Ao Oni/trumpet freak again thanks to a certain someone, I've come to realize that Nintendo loves invoking the Uncanny Valley alot. Dr. Kawashima, certain 3D WarioWario microgames, both Wii Fit Trainers, a certain dragon from Skyward Sword, most Wario Land/World bosses, Bishounen Dedede from the Kirby anime, certain humanoid Pokemon, both SF and SF64 counterparts of Andross, arguably every enemy in Pikmin 3's semi-realistic artstyle, ect.
 

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exactly, that's why I'm saying I'll hold off unless a character like Jigglypuff is revealed lol
Thanks for agreeing with me

By the way even if its mewtwo revealed because of x and y mewtwo would easily be a special case because of being kicked most wanted and the most popular pokemon (AGAIN)
 

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The Smash community here seems to be much more rabid than the Smash guys on my channel. Besides, I get enough hate on YT from the Ridley video alone, one source of hate is satiable enough lol.

I can go in there right now and say "Hi guys, I don't think Ridley could work in Smash." and I'll have iron sights aimed at my head.
Honestly dude, the only reason people get upset by that is because they think the "Ridley it too big argument" is a bit of a cop out, and not really a valid point. I can totally understand when people think he may be excluded for other reasons and what not, in addition to thinking he would look awkward with a re-size, but if the only basis of your anti-Ridley argument is, "he is too big" and that's it, then that's when there's a problem.
 

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Did you guys like that reverse of Glory Majesty Unity? I tried my best to make it good. Spell check ****ed it up a little bit.
 

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Thanks for agreeing with me

By the way even if its mewtwo revealed because of x and y mewtwo would easily be a special case because of being kicked most wanted and the most popular pokemon (AGAIN)
He wasn't really kicked out. Only Pichu was of the playable cast. He has data in Brawl.

He was just low priority over the Original 12 and newer characters, that's all.
 

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He wasn't really kicked out. Only Pichu was of the playable cast. He has data in Brawl.

He was just low priority over the Original 12 and newer characters, that's all.
Like how Tetra and dixie kong had data in there too maaan i wouldve been so happy to see tetra as a playable character
 

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He wasn't really kicked out. Only Pichu was of the playable cast. He has data in Brawl.

He was just low priority over the Original 12 and newer characters, that's all.
He was LITERALLY kicked out. The diction might not be the most suitable. However, let us be realistic. It doesn't matter why he wasn't included. He wasn't included.
 

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I mean, yeah he was "kicked out", but that sounds a bit too harsh. That's why we like to say he was "out-prioritized." Makes it sound like he was intended instead of violently rejected after Melee.
 

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Like how Toon Sheik and dixie kong had data in there too
Fixed for accuracy. There was no Tetra ever known. Just a guess. We know at one time it was definitely a Toon Sheik, how far that went is unknown.

We know Dixie was worked on heavily, but couldn't work with Diddy as planned. For whatever plan it was...

He was LITERALLY kicked out. The diction might not be the most suitable. However, let us be realistic. It doesn't matter why he wasn't included. He wasn't included.
That's not what being "kicked out" means. He was not included, which is an entirely different thing. He was going to be in Brawl in the first place. Meaning he wasn't finished for it, no more, no less. To put it more simply, he'd have to have been finished in Brawl to be kicked out. He wasn't finished. It's more like he didn't make the final cut in Brawl, but never was a full character in Brawl. If he was entirely finished, and then dropped, yeah, I could see your point(but that wasn't the case.

But let's not split hairs; He was going to be in there if there was enough time for it. No doubt about that.


I mean, yeah he was "kicked out", but that sounds a bit too harsh. That's why we like to say he was "out-prioritized." Makes it sound like he was intended instead of violently rejected after Melee.
This exactly. This is what really happened in the end. Characters had higher priority over him.

Pichu definitely was kicked out. There was no plans for him to come back from what could be found. No interviews, no data.

Also, there's one other character that was planned for Brawl, but never made it into the data that we legitimately know of. Villager. Sakurai even said he thought about putting him into Melee at one time. Which is why we got so much Animal Crossing stuff and the main reason we got a stage.
 

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I mean yeah, he was kicked out, but that sounds a bit too harsh. That's why we like to say he was "out-prioritized." Makes it sound like he was intended instead of violently rejected after Melee.
We have to be politically correct to avoid hurting poor Mewtwo's feelings?! Haha.

I just love to argue semantics.
 

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Back from roleplaying club. Thought I'd share what happened today. (I dunno how to spoiler on my phone, so don't whine)

DEEP INTO THE HEART OF THE BATTLE HE FOUGHT. COVERED ON ALL SIDES AS ALL CONVERGED ON THEM, UNTIL THE AURASAGE COULD NO LONGER BE SEEN. AS TIME PASSED I FEARED HIM CAUGHT, THEN SLOWLY THE TRAINERS SEPARATED, MANY POKEMON WERE CAPTURED. I SAW THE LUCARIO. HE WAS DOWN ON ONE KNEE, ALL STOPPED TO WATCH AND GAZE
UPON HIM WITH A SMILE OF VICTORY BEFORE PREPARING TO CAPTURE HIM. THEN HE ROSE UP TO MAKE A FINAL STAND. WITH HIS LAST BIT OF HEALTH HE ROSE HIS ARMS INTO THE AIR AURA EMERGING FROM HIS BLACK PAWS AND BLUE BODY. HE CALLED UPON THE ALPHA AND PREPARED TO BE CAPTURED.

BUT ARCEUS WOULD NOT ALLOW THE AURASAGE TO BE BEATEN SO SOON, INSTEAD HE SENT THUNDER AND LIGHTNING TO STRIKE THE GROUND, BESTOWING UPON HIM THE ONE GIFT EVERY WILD POKEMON LIVES IN HOPE OF – THE UNCATCHABLE HAX!

NOW FILLED WITH THAT POWER, THE CAPTURE RATE OF A THOUSAND MEWTWOS WAS GIVEN HIM. NO LONGER CATCHABLE HE WERE TOUCHED BY THE GODS. THIS TIME WHEN THEY TRIED TO CAPTURE HIM, POKE BALLS FAILED NOT BY TENS, BUT BY HUNDREDS, BY THOUSANDS. AND WHEN THE TRAINERS RAGEQUITTED, THE AURASAGE LAUGHED HIS MASS OFF, AND GRABBED A PEPSI
Iwata Reads: http://vocaroo.com/i/s1lOXcREM3Hj
 

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Fixed for accuracy. There was no Tetra ever known. Just a guess. We know at one time it was definitely a Toon Sheik, how far that went is unknown.

We know Dixie was worked on heavily, but couldn't work with Diddy as planned. For whatever plan it was...



That's not what being "kicked out" means. He was not included, which is an entirely different thing. He was going to be in Brawl in the first place. Meaning he wasn't finished for it, no more, no less. To put it more simply, he'd have to have been finished in Brawl to be kicked out. He wasn't finished. It's more like he didn't make the final cut in Brawl, but never was a full character in Brawl. If he was entirely finished, and then dropped, yeah, I could see your point(but that wasn't the case.

But let's not split hairs; He was going to be in there if there was enough time for it. No doubt about that.
There was data finalsmash of the pirateship from Wind waker with pirates attacking basically she was in there
 
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