Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[MargnetMan23]

I know, I was trying to be funny. I like Jiggs as a playable character but having her as the character reveal to commemorate the launch of X and Y would be an enormous buzzkill, in my opinion.

Honestly jigglypuff should be revealed, then everybody could shut the hell up and end most of the pokemon debates =D

 

[Fatmanonice]

Honestly jigglypuff should be revealed, then everybody could shut the hell up and end most of the pokemon debates =D

I feel this way about Ike and Fire Emblem debates.

 

[Johnknight1]

Alright man, here's what Toad could offer.

CAPPS'S TOAD MOVESET​

Spoiler

TOAD​

When creating this moveset, I tried to provide as many reference to Toad's past as possible while creating a unique new style of character.

Toad is known for his great strength and speed despite his small size. This immediately reminded me of Pichu in Melee. (I'll be using some of it's moves even and showing it's hitboxes for examples to give an idea what movees will look like) I took the idea of this extremely fast and light character and realized he wouldn't have have fantastic range. To make up for this I allowed his moveset to be a cool combination of trap setting inspired somewhat by Sackboy from PSASBR to get the opponent to fall into your traps and get killed and speeding around trying to keep from being killed at such a light weight.

Weight: 55 (Pichu level)
Fall Speed: 107% (Pichu Level)
Size: Pichu Size
Jump: Force 2.00 (A little under Olimar, Toad is known as the one lacking jump height)
Air Speed: 150 (slighly higher then Yoshi in Brawl, Toad is know for that speed and mobility)
Range: Pichu Level
Shield: Olimar Sized

Wall Jump: Yes
Note: A player may choose to jump or just simply walk up then jump whenever. This references Wario Woods as well as the implied wall jumping Toad does in Super Mario Galaxy 2 scaling a large canyon.

Jump Notes: Toad's double jump will be a Flutter Jump inspired from Toad Jump, a mini game from Super Princess Peach. The second jump will have Toad flail in the air to try and keep up in the air. However unlike Yoshi's, you must mash the jump button to keep him in the air longer, this can allow him to somewhat float like Peach as well if short hopped into and pressed mashed rapidly. The mashing is supposed to resemble having to blow air into the microphone to make him jump in the mini game.

ATTACKS!!!​

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Neutral A:
Headbutt

Toad jabs his head forward. The move could link into itself if the opponent DIs badly and the player times it right. 1-2% damage per jab.

Hitbox Example
Rapid Attack Example

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Forward Tilt:
Toad Kick

Aimable, Toad shoves his feet forward. Low range and knockback but fast. 8% damage.

Up Tilt:
Mow Down

Toad waves his head up in an arch. Similar hitbox and speed to Jigglypuff's up air. 10% damage

Hitbox Example

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Down Tilt:
Toad's Roundhouse

Toad does a quick roundhouse kick foot extended. Like Jigglypuff's downward aimed F tilt but less range. 6% damage. (Also, the name is a tiny nod to the various houses Toad sells items in in games.)

Hitbox Example

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Dash Attack:
Running Headbutt

A basic dash attack, Toad sticks his head out and trips mid-dash. 8% damage.

Hitbox Example

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Forward Smash:
Spore Shot

Shoots spores in front of him. Can reflect some projectiles similar to Ness's forward smash (to reflect it's reflecting properties shown in Mario Sports Mix) 12% charged, 16% uncharged

Hitbox Example

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Up Smash
Mushroom Rise!

Similar to what he does in Mario Sport Mix, Toad will summon mushrooms raising his hands and sending the enemy upwards. 16% unchanged, 20% charged. Note: subtract 2% and some upward force if Toad's hands hit the player instead of the mushrooms.

Hitbox Example (Imagine a small hutbox above his head area too)

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Down Smash
The Spin

Toad quickly spins in place. It has more range than it appears and has invincibility frames, as well as powerful. 13% uncharged, 17% fully charged.

Hitbox Example

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Ledge Attack
Gets back on the stage with a headbutt. 8% damage

100% Ledge Attack: Flops back on stage, some spores shooting out. These spores have the projectile reflecting properties. 4% damage

Floor Attack:
Poofs our a few spores and pops up. No projectile reflecting properties 2% damage

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NAir
On A Roll!

Toad spins around, this attack has a generous hitbox. 12% damage.

Hitbox Example

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Fair

Toad pushes forwards drilling his head into his target with spores coming out. Abouut 7% damage if all the hitboxes hit. No projectile reflecting properties.

Hitbox Example

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Bair
Glider

Spins in an unusual way hitting the opponent. 12% damage but high ending and landing lag.

Hitbox Example

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Uair
Flip Kick

Does a simple flip kick with lowish knockback similar to Luigi. 6% damage

Hitbox Example (but with feet instead of the tail, slightly lowered range)

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Dair
Spin Jump

Similar to Mario's Mario Tornado, Toad does his own signature spin jump you can see from Mario Sports Mix. 14% if all attacks hit.

Hitbox Example 1 Hitbox Example 2 Hitbox Example 3 (Obviously smaller hitboxes with much less range)

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Pummel: Hit opponent with his head over and over. 2-3% damage per pummel.

Forward Throw
Carry Throw

Picks up his opponent and can run him along and throw him. Similar to DK but he is able to move quite a bit faster. 6% damage, 9% throw.

Up Throw
Pop Em Up

Tosses The opponent up and headbutts them. 10% damage

Down Throw
Eat Spore!

Launches the foe into the ground and shoots out spores. 10% damage

Back Throw

Toad does many rolls backwards and tosses the target. 9% damage.

SPECIALS​

Neutral Special:
Wanda
Game: Wario Woods
Effect: Wanda appears above Toad and drops a bomb he can catch or let drop and explode. This move is like Pikachu's Thunder in a way with the bomb coming down from the sky. The bombs would drop somewhat slowly, and the move would have cooldown so no more then 2 bombs could be falling at once.

If the proper colored bomb lands on a monster in the correct way it will cause a much larger and powerful explosion. If a wrong colored bomb lands on a monster, it falls unaffected to be left on the monster.

Bombs will not explode unless attacked, dropped correctly on a monster, or if it lands on a character while it is dropping.

Just bomb: 5-16%
Bomb WITH monster: 20%

Wanda

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Up Special:
Power Squat Jump
Game: Super Mario Bros. 2
Effect: Squats down and begins flashing, charging the jump. When released Toad flies up able to VERY slightly alter his directory left or right. If his head or hands contact a player they will be hit hard into the air.

10% damage

Example

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Down Special:
Head Lamp
Game From: Super Mario Galaxy
Effect: A quick flash of light leaves the enemy stunned! Similar to Mewtwo's Disable, this would lack the projectile properties of the former however and also have slightly improved range.

Example

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Forward Special:
Monster Place
Game: Wario Woods

Effect: Places a Fuzz, Spud, Squeak, Beaker, Scram, Dovo, or Spook directly in front of him. A hybrid of Peach's turnips and D3's Waddle Dee Toss, Toad will place one of these monsters in front of him with the rarity of the monsters from the game effecting the choice. These monsters will not move unless picked up. Only three may be on the field at once. These will absorb some damage, the rarer ones absorbing more before poofing away or exploding from his Neutral B. These will create interesting walls he can try to use to get enemies into his traps.

Fuzz, Spud, Squeak, Beaker, Scram, Dovo, and Spook

TAUNTS​

Taunt: Out Of Bounds Flag
Game From: Mario Golf
Effect: Waves his flag as he does in the Mario Golf games

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Taunt: SERVE!
Game: Virtual Boy Mario Tennis
Effect: Uses his tennis racket to bounce a tennis ball off of the screen
(Toad's first game where he was playable in the series was Mario's Tennis on the Virtual Boy. This is a cool way to refrence "3D" and his first sports playing role)


Taunt: DANCE!
Game: DDR Mario Mix

Effect: Dances just like the first level of DDR Mario Mix

Taunt: HIGH FIVE!
Game: A Bunch
Effect: Toadette jumps out behind him and gives him a quick high five then jumps back

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THOUGHTS​

I think I have shown that Toad can be a very unique character with a cool new playstyle. I'd love some suggestions however, so let me know what you think!

Just about everything on that is comparable to other moves, or has been done before.

This Toad moveset, playstyle, and skillset build doesn't add anything that we don't already have, and serves no purpose sans as a late addition clone.

But hey, no worries.

There were good moves, and that was far better than the dozen or so other Toad movesets I've seen, so you get an "A" in the effort category.

I could be wrong, but eh, I can't visualize it being too exciting or too impressive.

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

Honestly jigglypuff should be revealed, then everybody could shut the hell up and end most of the pokemon debates =D

Jigglypuff for October 12th!!!

Though, it wouldn't shut up most debates. A few though.

Btw, what's with everyone thinking Pokemon Trainer has a better chance than Jigglypuff? If anything they have an equal chance thanks to Jigglypuff's new fairy type, and the fact they are revealing supposed hidden veterans early.

 

[Johnknight1]

Surprised John didn't complain about Toon Link's hair.

John, you're obliged to complain about mundane graphical details. Why aren't you doing that?

Because there isn't weird lines and then no lines all over his hair, and the model clearly is complete (unlike Link and Peach).

Also, because he's cel-shaded, whereas Link isn't, and the texture detail is very good on Toon Link, whereas Link looks like something out of 2007.

I feel this way about Ike and Fire Emblem debates.

Nope. The moron hipster Fire Emblem brigade will bring up Marth, saying he is inevitably cut (that or replaced by Chrom).

Then once Marth is confirmed, there will be a petition to have Sakurai remove Marth and add Chrom.

 

[Morbi]

Jigglypuff for October 12th!!!

Though, it wouldn't shut up most debates. A few though.

Btw, what's with everyone thinking Pokemon Trainer has a better chance than Jigglypuff? If anything they have an equal chance thanks to Jigglypuff's new fairy type, and the fact they are revealing supposed hidden veterans early.

It wouldn't shut me up. Jigglypuff is my bread and butter. The jelly to my peanut butter. Two peas in a pod we are.

 

[Johnknight1]

Your right, it didn't. And at that point people were split, only going off of hunches and given info. Someone was bound to be wrong.

And whenever Ridley's fate is revealed, people will once again find out if they were right or wrong. That's the nature of the speculation game.

Nintendo is going to put their all into Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros., they need these games to be a hit if they want the Wii U to do any better than what it is doing right now.
But I don't think having Toon Link would make SSB4 sell anymore then if he wasn't in it.

You were wrong becuase you panicked when Sakurai said he couldn't outdo Brawl's numbers.

You thought he meant the roster would get smaller (for no good reason), I said we'd get less newcomers (Brawl had 18).

I say Sakurai is teasing Ridley to hype him up (similar to the Conductor Link/Toon Link situation perhaps=???), the fools say he is doing it to troll (which gains Sakurai and co nothing but a cheap laugh and proof that he isn't as creative as we think, because Ridley could literally be a playstyle game changer).

And eh, if Nintendo's putting their all into Smash Bros, they ought to push the release date back, put Smash 3DS on hiatus, and get a crew that can recreate the graphics on Pyrosphere or Skyloft to where they don't look like the GameCube with motion controls console's graphics port that they probably are, as well as finish the character models.

But hey, there have to shortcuts, because Nintendo is clearly pushing the 2014 release date down Sakurai's throat, and they have to sacrifice making brand new graphical version of those 2 stages instead of a mere polished version from those Wii games (which were back then way outdated graphically anyways).

*waits for the Wii U to implode worse for the GameCube, which is seeming more and more like a realistic possibility*

 

[FlareHabanero]

Nope. The moron hipster Fire Emblem brigade will bring up Marth, saying he is inevitably cut (that or replaced by Chrom).

Then once Marth is confirmed, there will be a petition to have Sakurai remove Marth and add Chrom.

Idiots, they should beg for Landmaster instead. It's the perfect Fire Emblem character.

 

[Starphoenix]

You were wrong becuase you panicked when Sakurai said he couldn't outdo Brawl's numbers.

You thought he meant the roster would get smaller (for no good reason), I said we'd get less newcomers (Brawl had 18).

I say Sakurai is teasing Ridley to hype him up (similar to the Conductor Link/Toon Link situation perhaps=???), the fools say he is doing it to troll (which gains Sakurai and co nothing but a cheap laugh and proof that he isn't as creative as we think, because Ridley could literally be a playstyle game changer).

And eh, if Nintendo's putting their all into Smash Bros, they ought to push the release date back, put Smash 3DS on hiatus, and get a crew that can recreate the graphics on Pyrosphere or Skyloft to where they don't look like the GameCube with motion controls console's graphics port that they probably are, as well as finish the character models.

But hey, there have to shortcuts, because Nintendo is clearly pushing the 2014 release date down Sakurai's throat, and they have to sacrifice making brand new graphical version of those 2 stages instead of a mere polished version from those Wii games (which were back then way outdated graphically anyways).

*waits for the Wii U to implode worse for the GameCube, which is seeming more and more like a realistic possibility*

 

[Johnknight1]

Idiots, they should beg for Landmaster instead. It's the perfect Fire Emblem character.

Shut up n00b. Everyone knows Dark Skirt Wearing Landmaster in its' sports outfit Landmaster is the best.

 

[MargnetMan23]

Shut up n00b. Everyone knows Dark Skirt Wearing Landmaster in its' sports outfit Landmaster is the best.

Dumb ass we need a landmaster with blue hair...

 

[Johnknight1]

@ Star
I see no reason why Smash Wii U has graphical imports of locations from Wii games. It looks terribly outdated.

I mean, just comparing Battlefield Wii U (which looks AMAZING!) to Skyloft and Pyrosphere, you can see like 6 years' worth of graphical advancement difference.

As for the character textures, eh, it's more me just joking with a backhanded joke at how incomplete the game is than anything else.

******* we need a landmaster with blue hair...

Blue and red hair.

Maybe a bit of white just to be a real 'murican.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Landmaster with a sword is the only way to go.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Shut up n00b. Everyone knows Dark Skirt Wearing Landmaster in its' sports outfit Landmaster is the best.

That character was from Tear Ring Saga, not Fire Emblem.

 

[MargnetMan23]

@ Star
I see no reason why Smash Wii U has graphical imports of locations from Wii games. It looks terribly outdated.

I mean, just comparing Battlefield Wii U (which looks AMAZING!) to Skyloft and Pyrosphere, you can see like 6 years' worth of graphical advancement difference.


Blue and red hair.

Maybe a bit of white just to be 'murican.

But seriously this is FE reps in a nutshell
HEY GUYS I HAVE AN IDEA! Let's display EVERYTHING our series have to offer by making 3 blue haired men who carry swords be playable!
GENIUS!
Wait no... I have a BETTER IDEA! 3 blue haired swords men is redundant why not just have 2 blue haired swordsmen and one RED HAIRED swords man! This will really provide the variety the franchise deserves! FLAWLESS!

 

[Johnknight1]

I'm not really mad, just.. it's unfortunate.

While it sucks that Toon Link was as much of a clone in Brawl, at least he was fun to play as (I can't say that about most of the Brawl cast), which to me is still the most important thing. If a character is totally unique but is boring to play as, it is wasted potential IMO (until a sequel, patches, or mods fix that at least).

As for what Toon Link's moveset, I doubt he'll have new weapons (I don't really see a need for them), but I think he'll have a lot of new moves, and his swordplay style will more resemble what Toon Link looks like in the Wind Waker (HD).

In my estimations, Toon Link, like Peach, is incomplete. I gotta say, the pose Toon Link makes in my avatar gives me hope that he'll be unique (that is a stance he specifically uses in the Wind Waker). I think Sakurai and co. want to add some more "Wind Waker-ness" to Toon Link, like his acrobatic swordplay, crazy Super Spin attack, various special techniques, and crazy counters, but Sakurai and co. might not be able to with time restraints.

Oh, and giving Toon Link animations and attacks with sword-like items like when he grabs such weapons in the Wind Waker would be AMAZING!!!

#SmashWiiUand3DSFor2015 #WhyIWantThat

 

[Starphoenix]

@ Star
I see no reason why Smash Wii U has graphical imports of locations from Wii games. It looks terribly outdated.

I mean, just comparing Battlefield Wii U (which looks AMAZING!) to Skyloft and Pyrosphere, you can see like 6 years' worth of graphical advancement difference.

No more outdated than stages like Frigate Orpheon, Pirate Ship, and Delfino Plaza. The Battlefield in Brawl looked much better than those stages, too.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Shut up n00b. Everyone knows Dark Skirt Wearing Landmaster in its' sports outfit Landmaster is the best.

That character was from Tear Ring Saga, not Fire Emblem.

What's funny is that TRS actually has tanks. Like, actual tanks. Well, tanks that shoot arrows anyway.

 

[FlareHabanero]

But seriously this is FE reps in a nutshell
HEY GUYS I HAVE AN IDEA! Let's display EVERYTHING our series have to offer by making 3 blue haired men who carry swords be playable!
GENIUS!
Wait no... I have a BETTER IDEA! 3 blue haired swords men is redundant why not just have 2 blue haired swordsmen and one RED HAIRED swords man! This will really provide the variety the franchise deserves! FLAWLESS!

Hence why we're stating that Landmaster is the best FE character, because there is nothing more unique then a big futuristic tank steamrolling over everything and shooting energy blasts.

Alternatively, there is Ridley.

 

[Moon Monkey]

You were wrong becuase you panicked when Sakurai said he couldn't outdo Brawl's numbers.

You thought he meant the roster would get smaller (for no good reason), I said we'd get less newcomers (Brawl had 18).

I say Sakurai is teasing Ridley to hype him up (similar to the Conductor Link/Toon Link situation perhaps=???), the fools say he is doing it to troll (which gains Sakurai and co nothing but a cheap laugh and proof that he isn't as creative as we think, because Ridley could literally be a playstyle game changer).

And eh, if Nintendo's putting their all into Smash Bros, they ought to push the release date back, put Smash 3DS on hiatus, and get a crew that can recreate the graphics on Pyrosphere or Skyloft to where they don't look like the GameCube with motion controls console's graphics port that they probably are, as well as finish the character models.

But hey, there have to shortcuts, because Nintendo is clearly pushing the 2014 release date down Sakurai's throat, and they have to sacrifice making brand new graphical version of those 2 stages instead of a mere polished version from those Wii games (which were back then way outdated graphically anyways).

*waits for the Wii U to implode worse for the GameCube, which is seeming more and more like a realistic possibility*

I...I have lost my way...prematurely crumbled under pressure. I have soiled the MoonKnight name.

LOL

But seriously, I never thought roster would be smaller. I believed the roster would be roughly around what is was in Brawl with maybe 4 to 5 newcomers. I believed (and still do) that Sakurai will trim the roster of characters who he believes aren't adding anything to the roster. And at the time of post-E3, Toon Link seemed to be one of those characters. Yeah sure, Sakurai said he believes that there should be a Young Link in every roster, but his stances seem to change from installment to installment. (case and point the Villager).

As for Ridley, that's a whole 'nother story bruh. He's up in the air at this point for me. I don't have the conviction you have, I wish I did. I really want to see Ridley make it in to piss on the "He's too big" guys.
At this point i'm hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst.

I'm glad Nintendo isn't doing well, I just hope they take the opportunity to reassess themselves.

 

[Johnknight1]

I know, I was trying to be funny. I like Jiggs as a playable character but having her as the character reveal to commemorate the launch of X and Y would be an enormous buzzkill, in my opinion.

I strangely agree. I think Mewtwo would be the perfect hype inducer, but I think that it is Sakurai, and he loves to get Jiggy with it.

Btw, what's with everyone thinking Pokemon Trainer has a better chance than Jigglypuff? If anything they have an equal chance thanks to Jigglypuff's new fairy type, and the fact they are revealing supposed hidden veterans early.

I think the Pokémon Trainer will be saved for a later date. After all, the Pokémon Trainer is literally a 3-in-1 character.

It would be best to save the Pokémon Trainer for a slow month or slow stretch, so that way, we could talk about all 3 of the Pokémon Trainers' Pokémon, (hopefully) the removal of the stamina system, as well as pictures of them and being shown new stuff on them for quite a few weeks without getting "old."

 

[FlareHabanero]

Pokemon X&Y is going to correlate to Mewtwo being revealed, come on now. I mean, Mewtwo is the hottest thing right.

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

You guys can say you care mostly about if the characters is more fun to play rather than it's uniqueness all you want, but after viewing this thread ever since June and seeing how you guys treat people who even remotely brings up a newcomer that is not that unique but still could be fun to play...

I'm sorry, but I don't believe you guys. :/

I think the smash bros fandom may be one of the best fandoms I've seen in a long time, but if it had one serious flaw, it's that they care WAY too much about the characters, even to the point of attacking others.

I mean, just mention any newcomer that isn't Ridley, and suddenly you are an idiot.

The most you get from Ridley is a statement on him being too big.

 

[Zyskyoto]

ayo my smash 4 social thread fam, let's do a test. like this post; i wanna see how many likes i'll get :3

 

[Conviction]

ayo my smash 4 social thread fam, let's do a test. like this post; i wanna see how many likes i'll get :3

The **** you think this is, Facebook?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/06/an-in-depth-chat-with-the-genius-behind-super-smash-bros/
I thought he was looking for unique characters that stand out and ya know bring something new to the table, which is why im sure TL could get new specials

He could just being noting for that new characters. Not veterans.

Keep in mind his only other statement is that characters from Fighting Games that are similar to ones in Smash aren't going in.

While many thought he could be saying "no clones", that was no more than a reasonable guess based upon an earlier statement. In other words, he never said past clones had zero chance. He really only seems to be referring to entirely new characters being unique.

I agree he could further de-clone Toon Link, no doubt. Doesn't mean it'll happen. Child Link always had the same specials as Adult Link, and Sakurai even noted this on Toon Link's page, calling it a rule. Could it change? Sure. But I'm not ultimately expecting it to. Especially since he opted to go without Adult Link's pure SS design, meaning him using the Boomerang is easy to implement.(I'm guessing he isn't sure whether to put it in for both or find something else, since neither Boomerang has been shown off yet)

 

[FlareHabanero]

The **** you think this is, Facebook?

The Roster Prediction Thread might as well be.

Here it's more along the lines of Tumblr.

 

[Zyskyoto]

The **** you think this is, Facebook?

wow wtf no bullying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Tree Gelbman]

You guys can say you care mostly about if the characters is more fun to play rather than it's uniqueness all you want, but after viewing this thread ever since June and seeing how you guys treat people who even remotely brings up a newcomer that is not that unique but still could be fun to play...

I'm sorry, but I don't believe you guys. :/

I think the smash bros fandom may be one of the best fandoms I've seen in a long time, but if it had one serious flaw, it's that they care WAY too much about the characters, even to the point of attacking others.

I mean, just mention any newcomer that isn't Ridley, and suddenly you are an idiot.

The most you get from Ridley is a statement on him being too big.

It's sad because it's true. Ridley is pretty much the universal safe zone. Other characters support gets questioned and you get called names and you're a moron and that your attempts to make those characters look unique are nought because only the opinion and cares of the naysayer matter.

It's kind of rude yo. Especially for a fandom that's great otherwise.

 

[Moon Monkey]

It's a symptom of being a smash fan. Often times people get riled up to the point of shunning other peoples ideas and characters. It's nice to see people passionate about the game and all, but sadly it goes too far sometimes.

It'll all go away when SSB4 is released......................then start back up when SSB5 is hinted

 

[Zyskyoto]

then start back up when SSB5 is hinted

 

[FlareHabanero]

It'll all go away when SSB4 is released......................then start back up when SSB5 is hinted

No, it will just continue.

THE RIDE NEVER ENDS ON MR. SAKURAI'S WILD RIDE.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Once SSB4 is out, it'll just shift to the people who play certain characters being dumbasses for selecting those people as mains.

''HOW COULD YOU MAIN R.O.B. HE'S LAME."
''CLONESSUXXOR."
''MISS FIT TOOK AWAY OUR RIDLEYS."

And it will go on and on until it eventually dies down and no one gives a **** anymore.

 

[MexM]

OH **** TOON LINK WAS CONFIRMED!
AND JOHN CHANGED HIS PROFILE PICTURE!
He looks pretty awesome! And HA to those who believed he couldn't get in because Spirit Tracks Link.

 

[Starphoenix]

Not even sure why people are upset over characters at this point. Not like we have many to choose from, and it's looking like we won't see too many characters leave. Not really a big deal.

 

[Zyskyoto]

i swear to god im not deathconsciousness omg

 

[FlareHabanero]

Not even sure why people are upset over characters at this point. Not like we have many to choose from, and it's looking like we won't see too many characters leave. Not really a big deal.

People will make it a big deal out of it because... I don't know, something about their period or something. If it makes you feel better, I'm not going to be hard pressed with the final results anyway, the improved gameplay is already a step forward.

 

[Zyskyoto]

People will make it a big deal out of it because... I don't know, something about their period or something. If it makes you feel better, I'm not going to be hard pressed with the final results anyway, the improved gameplay is already a step forward.

I'm interested in how crazy /v/ will go when it finally gets released.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

i swear to god im not deathconsciousness omg

You make a pretty convincing argument.

 

[Croph]

It's interesting to note that both Brinstar Depths and Frigate Orpheon (one of my favourite Brawl stage btw) are rotating stages. I wouldn't mind a new rotating stage or the return of Orpheon.

Lol, sorry. Kinda random. But I have like some sort of rotating stage fetish (yes, I even do like Brinstar Depths). Heck, it doesn't even need to be from Metroid (in fact, I prefer if a new franchise gets stage with awesome rotating mechanics). I... just... need... my... rotating stage fix!!

It's sad because it's true. Ridley is pretty much the universal safe zone. Other characters support gets questioned and you get called names and you're a moron and that your attempts to make those characters look unique are nought because only the opinion and cares of the naysayer matter.

It's kind of rude yo. Especially for a fandom that's great otherwise.

Ikr?

I try to be as patient and understanding as possible, but I can only take so much myself. I apologize if I ever got upset or bashed anyone's ideas. Just keep supporting who you like. Yeah, even if the character very different or unlikely, it's always nice seeing fresh ideas and passion from fans.

For example, in the beginning, I kinda despised Chrom, only because of the fact that he's major competition with Roy. But know I've kinda chilled, and realize that's pretty a silly reason. And Some Chrom supporters have brought up neat ideas for his moveset, which I kinda like. Plus some supporters are pretty nice, so I tried to understand where they're coming from. :/