Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[Diddy Kong]

Venom was one of my favorite Melee stages. But Melee had awesome stages in general. If they could only mix Brawl's cast, with Melee's stages and gameplay, we'd have a nearly perfect Smash game. Of coarse, small changes need to be made. Like, adding King K.Rool, Impa, Isaac, Toad and Mewtwo, also: a new moveset for Ganondorf. And of coarse no Sonic and Sheik :D

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Know what would be awesome? An actual moving Mario Kart stage. There are a few karts, and they are all basically Double Dash -styled. Driven by characters who are OBVIOUSLY not going to be playable. As: Petey Piranha, King Boo, Koopa / Paratroopa, Toadette (heck a regular Toad could work as well, they're generic), Daisy, WALUIGI, and the Karts serve as platforms. If you hit the floor, it's basically like in Big Blue, yet the Karts NEARLY don't go as fast. But slower characters can still be in problem. The Karts could hit you, doing small damage and knockback, causing you to get back on stage. UNLESS, those damn NPCs throw items at you. Yes, ITEMS. Blue Shells, Red Shells, Green Shells, Bananas, Lightning Bolts, EVERYTHING. This will probably never happen, but it would be awesome anyway.

But look at the way the karts are styled. Wouldn't you be stepping on the heads of the drivers?

 

[Diddy Kong]

No, the Double Dash - styled Karts would be designed as platforms. With some possible adjustments and...

Oh well, **** it, it indeed makes no sence whatsoever.

 

[IsmaR]

So long as we're getting flat/nostalgic stages like Pilotwings, I'd love to see a classic Rainbow Road fly-through level.

 

[FalKoopa]

But look at the way the karts are styled. Wouldn't you be stepping on the heads of the drivers?

Stepping on Waluigi's head = extra awesome + hilarious

 

[Diddy Kong]

Crocodile Island 2D please. Oh please. OH GOD, DEAR JESUS, DEAR MUHAMMED, DEAR BUDDHA, DEAR VISHNU, DEAR MOTER MARY, PLEASE GRANT ME THIS!

 

[Fatmanonice]

DKC2 definitely needs some love this time around. I was utterly disappointed that the only thing it got in Brawl was an okay remix of Stickerbrush Symphony.

 

[Moon Monkey]

i would love to see a silhouette stage from DKC. But yeah DKC 2 needs more love.

I didn't like sticker brush symphony in Brawl

 

[8-peacock-8]

Next Mario Kart stage should be Rainbow Road. Seriously.

 

[Arcadenik]

Maybe we could get a NES Zapper stage that blends Duck Hunt, Wild Gunman, and Hogan's Alley (the only NES Zapper games that count in Japan). That would be pretty cool.

 

[Diddy Kong]

If I'll actually gonna imagine a DKC2 stage, Sunset Shore from DKC Returns or Rainbow Road my penis might exlode with excitement.

I WILL NOT LET MYSELF BE TEMPTED!

 

[8-peacock-8]

Rainbow Road could totally take advantage of Mario Galaxy songs.

Also, an epic remix thats a combination of all the Rainbow Road themes.

 

[Diddy Kong]

You should receive 3 extra stocks on Rainbow Road. Cause it's so easy to fall off from it.

 

[Frostwraith]

I'd imagine a Inside Jabu-Jabu's Belly stage instead. That would be a really disgusting stage, but cool nonetheless.

If not Jabu-Jabu, then Hades's Belly.

Rainbow Road, Bowser's Castle and another Kid Icarus: Uprising stage would all be great to have. I think that Smash 3DS may have a Pokémon X/Y stage instead of something from Black/White and their sequels.

 

[LiteralGrill]

GAH!!!

Desperately trying to find the pac files for Brawl stages in a download of their own but every single guide that has them the link is no longer valid... I need to measure some things and this is driving me NUTS. "Ultimate" guides should be updated to keep them relevant.

Edit: Found it in an old thread with like 3 posts... Ultimate Guides my butt

 

[Diddy Kong]

I'd imagine a Inside Jabu-Jabu's Belly stage instead. That would be a really disgusting stage, but cool nonetheless.

If not Jabu-Jabu, then Hades's Belly.

Rainbow Road, Bowser's Castle and another Kid Icarus: Uprising stage would all be great to have. I think that Smash 3DS may have a Pokémon X/Y stage instead of something from Black/White and their sequels.

Inside Bowser's Belly perhaps?

Won't happen with Bowser playable, but since we're talking...

 

[IsmaR]

The only vore-related stages I can imagine are Yoob or Bowser from the M&L series. Though I'm not sure how Bowser could be playable inside himself.

 

[Baskerville]

i would love to see a silhouette stage from DKC. But yeah DKC 2 needs more love.

I didn't like sticker brush symphony in Brawl

This is easily my most wanted stage next to Comet Observatory.

 

[LiteralGrill]

Still wanting a Wario Ware Virtual Boy stage...

You could use 3D like the original game did on the 3DS do do crazy things...

 

[Moon Monkey]

This is easily my most wanted stage next to Comet Observatory.

Your talking about the Mario Galaxy 1 hub? or the Mario head comet hub in Galaxy 2?
I would love to see the Galaxy 1 hub level and some gravity implementations.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Still wanting a Wario Ware Virtual Boy stage...

You could use 3D like the original game did on the 3DS do do crazy things...

*Wario Land.

I'd seriously love to see VB Wario Land represented as a stage, but I think Nintendo is still embarrassed by the Virtual Boy.

There could be certain sections where fighters could jump into the background and fight on another arena and jump back into the foreground, like in the original game.

It's not that hard to imagine.
Just imagine a smash bros stage on the x-axis like normal, and then picture a similar stage in the distance.

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[Diddy Kong]

Galaxy 1 Master Race here.

Or should I say, Too Poor For Galaxy 2 Master Race?

 

[Baskerville]

Your talking about the Mario Galaxy 1 hub? or the Mario head comet hub in Galaxy 2?
I would love to see the Galaxy 1 hub level and some gravity implementations.

The Galaxy 1 hub, yes.

 

[Baskerville]

Ooops.

 

[Deleted member]

Spoiler

Words cannot express the awesomeness of this post.

I'm gonna play that song whenever I play that stage now. In fact, if we are ever able to add our own song like with Brawl, that one's going in that stage.

It will be GLORIOUS!

 

[Moon Monkey]

Galaxy 1 Master Race here.

Or should I say, Too Poor For Galaxy 2 Master Race?

Besides the inclusion of Yoshi and some nostalgic sound tracks:

Spoiler

Mario Galaxy 2 wasn't all that special. In my opinion Galaxy 1 is the better game.

 

[Hoots]

I didn't like sticker brush symphony in Brawl

You aren't the only one. It was absolutely butchered. As the greatest game of all time, DKC2 deserves stage representation at the very least. Honestly, the entire soundtrack should be available on said stage, but I'm sure if we had a gun to our heads we could narrow it down to 10 songs.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Crocodile Cacophany is a must.

 

[Hoots]

Crocodile Cacophany is a must.

My (painstakingly chosen) picks would be:

Stickerbrush Symphony
Mining Melancholy
Jib Jig
Hot Head Bop
Forest Interlude
Disco Train
Crocodile Cacophony
Welcome to Crocodile Isle
Lockjaw's Saga
Flight of the Zinger
Snakey Chantey

Edit: I couldn't leave Snakey Chantey off the list. I just couldn't do it! 11 is fine, right?

 

[IsmaR]

Needs more DKC1 Fear Factory

 

[Johnknight1]

Skyloft looks better thus far than Delfino Plaza did. Am certain we'll be able to use it competitively.

I don't know, I think the locations it will go to will be more stalling-inducing. Stalling and early KO's from chain grabs and horizontal combos is ultimately the only reason Delfino Plaza was banned. Of course seeing as how it looks like we're going to have many (inescapable) horizontal combos and how Skyloft will likely have more walk-off parts than Delfino Plaza (which only had 2), I think a ban will come early.

I understand Skyloft and Nintendogs but why Reset Bomb? We have no idea if the stage is affected by hazards and if it has walk off ledges or anything. I'd put it as a question mark too.

Well I think it's gonna have a lot of interferences. All that war-related stuff probably isn't there for just aesthetics. I would love to be wrong, but seeing as how Sakurai has always found a way to "ruin" some stages (at least competitively; I still don't get the Lylat Cruise tilting), I think he'll probably do that again.

 

[LiteralGrill]

The "Proposed Ruleset" thread has over 100 people in it last I looked.

I am actually happy this has been made now, it seems people looking at stages, rules, and all the crap that has happened on both sides is FINALLY going to really be thought over. I'm seeing tons of top players, BRoom members previous and still in, and tons of random names looking. Dang, the thread started out so negative and turned into something. Very cool.

 

[JamesDNaux]

Though I'm not sure how Bowser could be playable inside himself.

The same way he can fight three of himself in a match.

I'd seriously love to see VB Wario Land represented as a stage, but I think Nintendo is still embarrassed by the Virtual Boy.

The Virtual Boy you can get from the fortune cookies in New Leaf says otherwise, it's the only "console" you can get from them.

I didn't like sticker brush symphony in Brawl

Am I the only one that actually liked the remix? It's nowhere near as good as the original, but still, it's ok.Then again, I don't get butthurt when they change things, I'm happy to see new versions of things.

 

[Moon Monkey]

My (painstakingly chosen) picks would be:

Stickerbrush Symphony
Mining Melancholy
Jib Jig
Hot Head Bop
Forest Interlude
Disco Train
Crocodile Cacophony
Welcome to Crocodile Isle
Lockjaw's Saga
Flight of the Zinger
Snakey Chantey

Edit: I couldn't leave Snakey Chantey off the list. I just couldn't do it! 11 is fine, right?

It really is hard narrowing it down to 10 i hope the up the limit in SSB4.
There is no room for Krooks March or Bossanova

 

[IsmaR]

People are just extremely bored, Capps. It could be a thread about how delicious babies are and would still get as many views.

 

[Hoots]

Am I the only one that actually liked the remix? It's nowhere near as good as the original, but still, it's ok.Then again, I don't get butthurt when they change things, I'm happy to see new versions of things.

The issue wasn't that they changed it. DKCR actually did high quality remixes of almost all of the DKC1 songs that were included (the butchering of Aquatic Ambiance aside). The issue was that they totally obliterated the entire vibe that makes the song so awesome AND they ****ed up the tempo just for the sake of it, turning the song into an incoherent mess.

 

[LiteralGrill]

People are just extremely bored, Capps. It could be a thread about how delicious babies are and would still get as many views.

Explain the fact that we had previous and current BRoomn members, unity ruleset committee members, and top players in there? It wasn't just randoms. After I called out the fact so many people were in there though, a TON vanished. It makes we wonder if they were afraid of something for some reason.

 

[Big-Cat]

I don't know, I think the locations it will go to will be more stalling-inducing. Stalling and early KO's from chain grabs and horizontal combos is ultimately the only reason Delfino Plaza was banned. Of course seeing as how it looks like we're going to have many (inescapable) horizontal combos and how Skyloft will likely have more walk-off parts than Delfino Plaza (which only had 2), I think a ban will come early.

As I've said before, and I know you're not a fan of it, but throw breaks would make the chain grab issue irrelevant. Also fixing up other properties like only being able to do throws on grounded opponents would fix a lot.

I don't see what's the big deal with horizontal combos. I see them as an important part of a fighting game. If anything should be done, they should look into gravity scaling like how Tekken and Guilty Gear go about it. At least this way, horizontal combos won't be subject to wall carrying infinites.

 

[IsmaR]

HugS made the topic. That is all.

 

[JamesDNaux]

The issue wasn't that they changed it. DKCR actually did high quality remixes of almost all of the DKC1 songs that were included (the butchering of Aquatic Ambiance aside). The issue was that they totally obliterated the entire vibe that makes the song so awesome AND they ****ed up the tempo just for the sake of it, turning the song into an incoherent mess.

Well, they could have left it as is, then we'd have one more unfitting song to fight to. It just seems like a nice up-tempo version of the song, it's not like they were trying to make a masterpiece.

Not the worst thing either, look at all the people on Youtube that make "remixes" by just altering the pitch and making songs techno sounding, now that's bad.