Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[Diddy Kong]

You have no trouble beating DKs whatsoever from what I judge you on, based on your Brawl main character...

 

[KingofPhantoms]

You have no trouble beating DKs whatsoever from what I judge you on, based on your Brawl main character...

XD

But anyway, I hardly use the Hammer of the King on DK, he's better in full groups.

I've beaten both DKs and Peachs in 1 on 1 battles with my Jiggs, with hardly any trouble.

 

[Johnknight1]

Yeah, DK's offense is predictable. Am actually fearing he'll be demoted to 'slowest heavy weight in the game' after seeing Bowser so sped up. Would make NO SENCE whatsoever, but I can see it happening now. And I'm trembling. Yes, trembling in fear for it.

I think DK will actually be better if he stays largely the same, because he will probably have more combos, more viable moves, and of course lots of early gimp capabilities thanks to his strength, incredible knockback, grab throws/carrying, and most importantly his incredible spiking ability (with 3 different attacks).

 

[Diddy Kong]

Match up experience perhaps? Or you just played bad DKs and Peaches?

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Match up experience perhaps? Or you just played bad DKs and Peaches?

Around my skill level, I guess.

Most Peaches are fairly easy to predict, commonly using strategies with her levitation and turnips, which my Jiggs airgame is able to work around with ease, if she gets close while levitating for an F-air, I use Jigglypuff's F-air before the Peach can, and the turnips are fairly easier to avoid with a floaty character than most others.

And DK's large size and predictable offense makes him a fairly easy opponent for my Jigglypuff as well.

 

[Fastblade5035]

Everyone, meet the newcomer, Wi1 Fitt Trianr

And at long last, the long awaited Vilagre joins the Barlw

 

[Moon Monkey]

XD

But anyway, I hardly use the Hammer of the King on DK, he's better in full groups.

I've beaten both DKs and Peachs in 1 on 1 battles with my Jiggs, with hardly any trouble.

I can vouch for this.
I only really can use Yoshi and possibly Link when it comes to fighting your Jiggly.
I really hope DK is as much of a threat as Bowser seems to be.

For the thousandth time he needs the Barrel Roll!

@FAST: LOL! Someone do Mage Nam

 

[Big-Cat]

His axe needs blood.

 

[Diddy Kong]

The new Spinning Kong does give me hope however. It looks much stronger than before, and faster in movement. Also actually usable on the ground, cause before it was a strict aerial only move. Except for that SEXY, SEXY sweetspot it had in Melee. Whoa, would I love to have that back on DK. As well as cargo + U Air combos.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I can vouch for this.
I only really can use Yoshi and possibly Link when it comes to fighting your Jiggly.
I really hope DK is as much of a threat as Bowser seems to be.

For the thousandth time he needs the Barrel Roll!

@FAST: LOL! Someone do Mage Nam

Your Link and Fastblade's Toon Link is my Jiggly's weakness.

Peach's turnips aren't much, but the two Link's options of ranged attacks is what screws my Jigglypuff up.

 

[Diddy Kong]

DK also heavily outranges Jigglypuff. It's quite easy to keep her at bay.

In Melee however, it's one of the worst matchups ever.

 

[Moon Monkey]

I love how Ridley reminds me of Face from Nick Jr.!

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Your Link and Fastblade's Toon Link is my Jiggly's weakness.

Peach's turnips aren't much, but the two Link's options of ranged attacks is what screws my Jigglypuff up.

What about my occasional win with ROB, Olimar, or my Jigglypuff, King?

 

[Fastblade5035]

I can vouch for this.
I only really can use Yoshi and possibly Link when it comes to fighting your Jiggly.
I really hope DK is as much of a threat as Bowser seems to be.

For the thousandth time he needs the Barrel Roll!

@FAST: LOL! Someone do Mage Nam

Well, the first one was great, but at Moons request...

The Supr Fyting Rbot, Megea Nam, jions the barlw!

 

[KingofPhantoms]

What about my occasional win with ROB or Olimar, King?

Ah yes, forgot about the occasional Olimar.

Your R.O.B. isn't as much of a problem for me though, probably because I've fought your R.O.B. in groups. And then theres James' Olimar.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I've beaten quite a few of peeps on here with my Diddy. If only I could get my Brawl online to work.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Say... the website hasn't updated with the new pic for me.

Am I the only one having this problem?

 

[Salty the SLUG]

Hey, if you guys could probably tell, I am new to the competitive scene of Smash (although I've been playing casually for years), and I was wondering: "How low is the lowest tier for *playable* characters in competitive Smash? / Does it really matter?"

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Say... the website hasn't updated with the new pic for me.

Am I the only one having this problem?

I was having the issue last night, but it's showing up for me. (on the boards at least, haven't checked the website)

 

[Fastblade5035]

Say... the website hasn't updated with the new pic for me.

Am I the only one having this problem?

I think so. I assume you've seen it already though, so its not that much of a big deal, right?

 

[Johnknight1]

Say... the website hasn't updated with the new pic for me.

Am I the only one having this problem?

I had that issue too, but you gotta reload it.

 

[Moon Monkey]

What about my occasional win with ROB, Olimar, or my Jigglypuff, King?

You available for some matches? I never faced your Jiggly

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I think so. I assume you've seen it already though, so its not that much of a big deal, right?

Yeah. I've seen it.

It has half loaded now. The tag is still Wii U but I can see the pic.

 

[Fastblade5035]

Hey, if you guys could probably tell, I am new to the competitive scene of Smash (although I've been playing casually for years), and I was wondering: "How low is the lowest tier for *playable* characters in competitive Smash? / Does it really matter?"

Just don't main Link, Ganon , or Zelda and you'll be fine.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Just don't main Link, Ganon , or Zelda and you'll be fine.

The ironic part is that Toon Link is the only LoZ character with a good spot on the Brawl tier list.

 

[Salty the SLUG]

Just don't main Link, Ganon , or Zelda and you'll be fine.

I learned that by reading everyone else's posts . Sheik may be the exception in Melee (and only melee). So then everything else is fine?

 

[Fastblade5035]

I learned that by reading everyone else's posts . Sheik may be the exception in Melee (and only melee). So then everything else is fine?

Jiggs, DK, Bowser, and Falcon may be a bit hard to get into, but they're doable. Everyone else is easy peasy.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Jiggs, DK, Bowser, and Falcon may be a bit hard to get into, but they're doable. Everyone else is easy peasy.

Remember that time I destroyed you and Poppy with my Blood Falcon?

 

[Metal Overlord]

oh lord, this thread

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Remember that time I destroyed you and Poppy with my Blood Falcon?

All I remember in terms of completely failing is when James beat me with every Kirby color, which I started calling the Rainbow Barrage.

Never forget.

 

[Fastblade5035]

Remember that time I destroyed you and Poppy with my Blood Falcon?

Still not as good as Toon winning by doing nothing at all

 

[KingofPhantoms]

All I remember in terms of completely failing is when James beat me with every Kirby color, which I started calling the Rainbow Barrage.

Never forget.

I refues to fall victim to James' Rainbow Barrage.

His Olimar is another story...

Still not as good as Toon winning by doing nothing at all

ALL HAIL THE MAGIC CONCH!

But seriously, Toon Link really blew Luigi away there.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Hey, if you guys could probably tell, I am new to the competitive scene of Smash (although I've been playing casually for years), and I was wondering: "How low is the lowest tier for *playable* characters in competitive Smash? / Does it really matter?"

Depends. In Melee there aren't that many Low Tier Heroes anymore. Pretty much everyone who's a Low Tier Hero has a Top Tier secondary character these days. In Melee, don't really expect to win not using Fox, Falco, Marth, Sheik, Jigglypuff or Peach. Even the likes of Captain Falcon, Samus, Dr.Mario, Ganondorf and Ice Climbers are quite rarely seen these days.

In Brawl, it's MetaKnight everywhere. If not, Ice Climber chain ******. Use Diddy. Please do.

N64 Smash is quite the most balanaced I'd say. Even though Pikachu vs Fox on Hyrule is quite often seen...

 

[Johnknight1]

oh lord, this thread

Still not as bad as if you were posting in this thread...

 

[Bowserlick]

This might be over-complicating things, but I wonder if Pacman's run could have an interesting property.

Pacman can have an above average running speed, however a ghost (color can be random) appears behind him. The ghost has a hit-box and absorbs projectiles. On a press of A, Pacman would do a side-step with arms spinning and the ghost would continue to go forward.

The downside, is that if Pacman tries to run in one direction and then turns to go the opposite direction, he would hit the ghost and take a hit.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, REALLY DON'T wanna see PacMan in Smash.

 

[Demna]

Because it's relevant again, why not?

Zero Suit...?

Spoiler

 

[Salty the SLUG]

Depends. In Melee there aren't that many Low Tier Heroes anymore. Pretty much everyone who's a Low Tier Hero has a Top Tier secondary character these days. In Melee, don't really expect to win not using Fox, Falco, Marth, Sheik, Jigglypuff or Peach. Even the likes of Captain Falcon, Samus, Dr.Mario, Ganondorf and Ice Climbers are quite rarely seen these days.

In Brawl, it's MetaKnight everywhere. If not, Ice Climber chain ******. Use Diddy. Please do.

N64 Smash is quite the most balanaced I'd say. Even though Pikachu vs Fox on Hyrule is quite often seen...

Jiggs, DK, Bowser, and Falcon may be a bit hard to get into, but they're doable. Everyone else is easy peasy.

Alright, thanks for the help.

 

[Diddy Kong]

If your a Kirby fan, he's not that bad in Brawl. But MetaKnight is heaps better.

 

[Bowserlick]

I really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, REALLY DON'T wanna see PacMan in Smash.

Well, I am betting that Pacman is in and Impa is out (even though she was never in to begin with).