[Super Nuke Bros. Melee] - OFFICIAL DEMO RELEASED YES

[roy is my boi]

...okay...is roy NOT in =D

 

[majora_787]

...okay...is roy NOT in =D

It's a possibility. Stop asking.

 

[roy is my boi]

It's a possibility. Stop asking.

okay. just for you =D.
but on topic

Our aim is to keep the game under 20MB, and with each song adding 200-400kb even on the lowest quality setting, adding music really isn't in our best interests. But of course it has to be done.

how much memory does a character take?

 

[SSJ4Kazuki]

okay. just for you =D.
but on topic

how much memory does a character take?

It's heavily dependant on the character.

unoptimised bowser was 600kb, but optimised, I got it down to 121.
fox is 156kb, while _____ is 105kb. so yeah, I'd say 100-150k per character,
however, sound effects add around 100 more kb to each character.
But this could decrease depending on the number of sound effects I re-use.
A stage is 200-300kb.
It's all very complicated, but we're working on it.

Quickstats:
50 characters, 40 stages, some music (worst case scenario):

((50 * 160) + (40 * 300)) / 1 024 = 20000KB === 19.5 MB

 

[Wavekirby]

It's heavily dependant on the character.

unoptimised bowser was 600kb, but optimised, I got it down to 121.
fox is 156kb, while Roy is 105kb. so yeah, I'd say 100-150k per character,
however, sound effects add around 100 more kb to each character.
But this could decrease depending on the number of sound effects I re-use.
A stage is 200-300kb.
It's all very complicated, but we're working on it.

Quickstats:
50 characters, 40 stages, some music (worst case scenario):

((50 * 160) + (40 * 300)) / 1 024 = 20000KB === 19.5 MB

Seeweet! confirmed! lololol

Sorry, I couldn't resist!

 

[roy is my boi]

It's heavily dependant on the character.

unoptimised bowser was 600kb, but optimised, I got it down to 121.
fox is 156kb, while _____ is 105kb. so yeah, I'd say 100-150k per character,
however, sound effects add around 100 more kb to each character.
But this could decrease depending on the number of sound effects I re-use.
A stage is 200-300kb.
It's all very complicated, but we're working on it.

Quickstats:
50 characters, 40 stages, some music (worst case scenario):

((50 * 160) + (40 * 300)) / 1 024 = 20000KB === 19.5 MB

so...music cost moar than chars? imo that doesnt make sense but o well. maybe some stages could share music (eg. final destination/battlefield/another stage all share the same music, but the quality is higher.) anyways, 40 stages is quite alot...
maybe instead of 40 stages, 25-30 stages will be enough and then you could put more attacks on the characters =D

EDIT: while playing the game as fox, i noticed that his reflector is broken. it stops ur momentum. its like a tech. i had a 150% and bowser smashed me while i was holding the reflector, and i didnt go flying i just fly a very short distance then i jsut stop.

 

[SSJ4Kazuki]

so...music cost moar than chars? imo that doesnt make sense but o well. maybe some stages could share music (eg. final destination/battlefield/another stage all share the same music, but the quality is higher.) anyways, 40 stages is quite alot...

The graphics are vector. This means that once they have been drawn, they are stored
as mathematical equations, rather than images, and then are decompiled while the game
"loads". This is why SNBM is a considerably smaller filesize than the current SSF2 demo (6.5MB), despite having more characters and the same number of playable stages, items. Their characters are sprites, which DO have to be stored as images.

Sound on the other hand, is worrying. SSF2 has currently 2 more songs than SNBM had (before my drive wiped), which was 1.8MB, leading me to believe they were saving audio optimisation for later.

maybe instead of 40 stages, 25-30 stages will be enough and then you could put more attacks on the characters =D

No. But we will consider the 25-30 stages statement.

EDIT: while playing the game as fox, i noticed that his reflector is broken. it stops ur momentum. its like a tech. i had a 150% and bowser smashed me while i was holding the reflector, and i didnt go flying i just fly a very short distance then i jsut stop.

It shouldn't happen, let me to test it.

 

[Steelia]

Hmm. Just out of curiosity, but what's wrong with going over 20 MB? Is there a limit to how big these kind of projects can be, or is it for downloading-convenience's sake?

 

[SSJ4Kazuki]

Hmm. Just out of curiosity, but what's wrong with going over 20 MB? Is there a limit to how big these kind of projects can be, or is it for downloading-convenience's sake?

The ultimate newgrounds imaginary super-limit is 20MB
It's pretty much just for convenience's sake.

Currently, unless they learn some optimising fast, Super Smash Flash 2 is going to be 19.5 MB with 15 characters, 12 stages and no other modes. Nobody's going to play an 80MB flash game, unless they download it.

 

[GreatClayMonkey]

The ultimate newgrounds imaginary super-limit is 20MB
It's pretty much just for convenience's sake.

Currently, unless they learn some optimising fast, Super Smash Flash 2 is going to be 19.5 MB with 15 characters, 12 stages and no other modes. Nobody's going to play an 80MB flash game, unless they download it.

It is possible to get something bigger on New Grounds its just hard but if they saw a project like this they would most likely accept it if it wasn't to big.

 

[Hoeloe]

The limit for standard submissions is 10MB. 20MB is the limit for what people will be prepared to wait for, no-one will be bothered to wait for it to load if it's too big. The fact is, 90% of the people on the internet are lazy *******s, hence why they are on the internet in the first place.

 

[unwelc0med]

aagh when does this release D:


i want to play it

 

[SSJ4Kazuki]

aagh when does this release D:


i want to play it

You can play the demo link in my signature.

 

[Yaya]

Let roster predictions begin!



Mario:

-Mario

-Luigi

-Bowser

-Peach



Zelda:

-Link

-Zelda

-Ganondorf



Kirby:

-Kirby

-Dedede (OMG NO META KNIGHT BURN HIM)



Metroid:

-Samus

-Ridley



Pokemon:

-Pikachu

-Mewtwo



Donkey Kong:

-DK

-Diddy Kong



Fire Emblem:

-Marth

-Sothe (WHAT A TWIST)



Wario:

-Wario



Yoshi:

-Yoshi



F-Zero:

-Captain Falcon



Star Fox:

-Fox

-Falco

-Wolf



Other Series:

-Saki

- Mr. Game and Watch



3rd Parties:


-Sonic

-Snake

-Shion Sonozaki*

*Not from Video Games, anime character.

There's my list, hope you like it, Nukebros. =)

 

[SSJ4Kazuki]

Pretty good list. 7 of those characters aren't going to make it into the game.

Oh, you're also about 27 characters short of the full roster.

 

[Fat_K]

If you were to put Wario in witch outfit would you usa and what game style of moves?

 

[MasterToshima]

Hah thtz awesome, this will keep me busy untill I get my Wii back from repairment

Btw where do I download it?

 

[Hoeloe]

There's only a demo at the moment, in Kazuki's sig.

 

[SSJ4Kazuki]

Hah thtz awesome, this will keep me busy untill I get my Wii back from repairment

Btw where do I download it?

You will probably be able to download the finished game on our DOJO!!
http://supernukebros.moonfruit.com

Bear in mind that the game is nowhere near done, we only have 9 characters currently XD

 

[roy is my boi]

Pretty good list. 7 of those characters aren't going to make it into the game.

Oh, you're also about 27 characters short of the full roster.

ya u forgot roy, another cf character maybe black shadow, jigglepuff, atticus finch, cloud (what flash game doesnst have him? lol), lloyd?, sepirioth (he would make metaknight look like cf ban him before the game starts lol), metaknight, zamus, darkmario, isa the iguana, shadow, waluigi, samuri guro, um...like 10 anime characters, sheik, goku, and um dammit one short lmao maybe... chuck norris

 

[SSJ4Kazuki]

ya u forgot roy, another cf character maybe black shadow, jigglepuff, atticus finch, cloud (what flash game doesnst have him? lol), lloyd?, sepirioth (he would make metaknight look like cf ban him before the game starts lol), metaknight, zamus, darkmario, isa the iguana, (11) shadow, waluigi, samuri guro, um...like 10 anime characters, sheik, goku, and um dammit one short lmao maybe... chuck norris

I like your guess.

I'm counting "10 anime characters" as 10 character guesses when I say this.

8 characters you put on that list are in, with one additional character on the "maybe" list.

No, there are not 8 anime characters in this game. Hell, even 4 is too much.


By the way, Goku is an Anime character.

 

[Hoeloe]

10 anime characters is an epic guess.

Also, YEAH, page 42. We have the answer!

Yes, that is a reference to something.

 

[SSJ4Kazuki]

Something you might find interesting:

http://flashjoystick.pillowfortgames.com/

 

[Steelia]

-Mewtwo

YES!

-Shion Sonozaki*

*Not from Video Games, anime character.

NO!
:3

So that list had 28... so
27
+
28
=
55 characters!

Hmm, hmm. I'll probably post up my Character guess Roster later on . . . I would assume that all the veterans of the Smash series, regardless of their current positions as reused or cut, will more than likely see some kind of spotlight 'ere... Riiiiiight? >D

AH. Right. Would something like Zelda and Sheik be considered two characters?
Or Pokemon Trainer -- with Squirtle, Ivysaur and Charizard -- be considered three characters or one?

Just for . . . future reference.

 

[SSJ4Kazuki]

Not strictly true.

There are some cuts, notable confirmations being:

Wolf (I dunno, I just don't think I'd be able to get him right)
Ice Climbers (can't work in a flash game)
Olimar (see IC's)

 

[roy is my boi]

I like your guess.

I'm counting "10 anime characters" as 10 character guesses when I say this.

8 characters you put on that list are in, with one additional character on the "maybe" list.

No, there are not 8 anime characters in this game. Hell, even 4 is too much.


By the way, Goku is an Anime character.

lol i no. hmmm maybe this game will be better than i though, like the other falsh smash game of something like that, had all these random snime chars like inuasha and that stuff, so i though..... but nvm i shulda known u guys were better than that=D

EDIT: are there gonna be anymade up characters meaning that there will be characters that u made up?

 

[SSJ4Kazuki]

EDIT: are there gonna be anymade up characters meaning that there will be characters that u made up?

A few. Don't worry, they certainly aren't the game's main focus.
Oh, and they DO represent people, so technically they aren't made up.

 

[roy is my boi]

A few. Don't worry, they certainly aren't the game's main focus.
Oh, and they DO represent people, so technically they aren't made up.

like chuck norris, bruce lee, and ken?

 

[Hoeloe]

Not all of them are DIRECTLY representative, but yeah, they are representative in some respect.

 

[roy is my boi]

Not all of them are DIRECTLY representative, but yeah, they are representative in some respect.

oh okay =D

 

[Deleted member]

Ken, Gimpy, and Youko? Just a guess....

 

[Maikeru17]

:] Maybe they represent the creators and not over-exaggerated mods?


/longtimelurker


-Nox`

 

[smashbro29]

:] Maybe they represent the creators and not over-exaggerated mods?


/longtimelurker


-Nox`

Sure hope so I mean the mods are great and all but what would they have to do with this flash game?

 

[GreatClayMonkey]

All I want is Little Mac, Sukkapoon or Saki however all seem unlikely.

 

[Wavekirby]

All I want is Crono...

 

[Maikeru17]

Sure hope so I mean the mods are great and all but what would they have to do with this flash game?

My point.

Personally; I'm going for Mewtwo, myself. He's not an 'out-there' kind of character, and really.
It's Mewtwo.


-Nox`

 

[Pyroloserkid]

Ken, Gimpy, and Youko? Just a guess....

:] Maybe they represent the creators and not over-exaggerated mods?


/longtimelurker


-Nox`

Lmao QFT.


OHAI GUYZ. What r going on in this thread?

Yeh I've been gone for a while, but the demo is still looking pretty good =D.

This week I want to play around with every character and give my review, BUT I'm a pretty social guy, so we'll see what my schedule is like =P.

 

[unwelc0med]

10 Anime Characters Is An Epic Guess.

Also, Yeah, Page 42. We Have The Answer!

Yes, That Is A Reference To Something.

Hitchiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

[SSJ4Kazuki]

Hitchiker's Guide To The Galaxy

YOU WIN.

FOR THAT, YOU CAN HAS CHARACTER SPOILER!

PM ME :D

lol.

 

[:034:]

He's going to say Samus.