Super Heroes Mafia: Day 7 ends! Nabe and Circus wins! Zen dies in end game!

[Xivii]

Circus I like you way more for that post.

Sigh

 

[ranmaru]

I have. I didn't like how he picked his results to clear some people, don't know how helpful that was. He then says people are riding wagons when he himself rid on Beat.

I also don't believe his claim because of his SOLE SCUMMINESS.

I have said that Hep is more likely to be scum then Circus, but I'm fine with either.

 

[Xivii]

What I'm asking is if one flips scum, do you still think the other is scum?

 

[Xivii]

What do you mean you don't like how he picked his results to clear some people?

 

[ranmaru]

If one flips scum, I'd give the other some leniency.

Like, he hasn't gotten a guilty yet... Meh I dunno. He was right about Gheb tho...

I forgot who else he picked tho.

Hep is much scummier than Circus, tho.

 

[Xivii]

What reason would make you give the other more lenniency if one flips town? How would a town flip of Circus affect your scum read on Hep?

 

[ranmaru]

It wouldn't really. This is because i'm not basing their scumminess solely on their interactions with each other.

But if one flipped scum, the other probably wouldn't be because they don't seem to connect anyhow.

 

[Xivii]

You just said it would.

 

[ranmaru]

Read my second line.

 

[Xivii]

Got it.

So if Circus flips scum, you will have a towner read on Hep? But if Circus flips town, you still think Hep is scum?

 

[ranmaru]

Yep. Exactly.

 

[Circus]

I have. I didn't like how he picked his results to clear some people, don't know how helpful that was. He then says people are riding wagons when he himself rid on Beat.

One, I have not ridden a wagon on Beat; I've been suspicious of Beat for Days. Two, following a wagon is not scummy on it's own. Hopping on wagons willy nilly without backing up why you're doing so, however, can be.

And I don't understand what you mean when you say "he picked his results to clear some people," nor what point you're trying to make with it.

 

[Xivii]

Vote: Hep

Let's do it.

I think that if Hep flips scum we should definitely jail Circus.

If Hep flips town then Beat can be scum but since we are directing his action I think Ryu would be the best jail, simply for a placeholder/protection. This way, Circustown can use his investigation on Beat. If he dies then Rad will get his result. We could also have him Jail Circus in hopes of a No kill. That would mean Circus is scum and Ranmaru is scum since they are both roleblocked. The only problem with this is that scumbeat could simply not kill, and he and his Ran buddy get a mislynch and win the game. Though what we could do to counter this is no lynch D5 and then have Beat roleblock someone else.

 

[ranmaru]

Kk, good with this.

Vote: Hep

 

[Xivii]

EBWOP: roleblock someone else on N5/until mafia kills.

 

[Circus]

Ugh. Does not compute. How is lynching our makeshift cop the best course of action? My brain must be in backwards, because my reads hardly ever seem to line up with anyone else's.

 

[Xivii]

Because of the cases presented on her and the fact that we have very little use of a semi-cop at this point in the game. Not to mention that she has no means of clearing anyone so she is not a cop at all. In fact, of you truly believed this, then you would be wanting to lynch Beat right now. You think her ability is important. Which means that you think we should be lynching off flavor. Which means you should be voting Beat n_n!!

 

[Xivii]

Circus + Beat?????
Circus + Ranmaru???
Circus + Hep????

Which seat should I take??

 

[ranmaru]

You'd need a flip before determining which seat to take.

 

[Xivii]

Scum flip > probable bud
In order:

Hep > Circus
Hep =/= Beat
Hep =/= Ran

Circus > Hep
Circus > Ran
Circus > Beat

Ran > Circus
Ran > Beat
Ran =/= Hep

Beat > Circus
Beat > Ran
Beat =/= Hep

 

[Radical Fiction]

Waiting on Circus to tunnel.

Also, Ran seems to be trying to get lynched.

Are we done? I've not got anything really to add except that Circus is a moron and that Hep town targeting me when I'm jailed would have no reason to fail because jailer roleblocks you and protects you. It doesn't make you untouchable.

Zen, you know you're probably going to die tonight, right?

 

[Xivii]

And what would it matter if I did? I'm pretty much vt with nabe.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Zen, put your goddamn cards on the table. You ditzing around isn't helping at all. Tell me your reads.

Circus what are the disadvantages of this set of night actions? Lasso Hep, we'll lynch Ran/Nabe, and Hep and Beat can target me. What will happen the next day if I'm town and Hep is scum. What will happen if Hep is town and I'm scum. What will happen if we're both town. What will happen if we're both town and you are scum.

Ranmaru, why should we lynch Nabe and not you.

Nabe, should we lynch Ran or Beat.

Hep, why is Nabe town, ignoring flavor speculation.

Beat, what do we get out of you jailing Circus tonight?

Zen, what should I do now?

Red Ruy, find me a picture. 1-10, how surprised would you be if Zen flipped scum? I will be asking a series of follow-up questions to determine your feelings on a couple players.

Swiss, leave me a skype message on why Circus is town. I don't care about your personal opinion about him. You're only allowed to remind me of the good things Circus has done.

 

[Circus]

Waiting on Circus to tunnel.

It was an empty threat; sue me. If no one else sees all the ridiculously scummy things you do by now, I don't know what to do. Your claim sounds fake as hell, you refuse to cooperate with me, you lied about the details of your role in order to try to make sure I would get lynched because you wanted my power, you white knighted GLG when he absolutely wasn't innocent-looking enough to deserve it, suggesting that you knew for a fact that he wasn't scum and were just trying to earn brownie points—I don't know. But tunneling you obviously isn't actually going to be helpful right now since no one else seems to want you lynched.

Are we done? I've not got anything really to add except that Circus is a moron and that Hep town targeting me when I'm jailed would have no reason to fail because jailer roleblocks you and protects you. It doesn't make you untouchable.

Sorry, my bad. I was getting it mixed up with Ran's nothing-can-do-anything-to-me-ever ability. Can someone explain to me why we aren't lynching him?

 

[Radical Fiction]

It was an empty threat; sue me. If no one else sees all the ridiculously scummy things you do by now, I don't know what to do. Your claim sounds fake as hell, you refuse to cooperate with me, you lied about the details of your role in order to try to make sure I would get lynched because you wanted my power, you white knighted GLG when he absolutely wasn't innocent-looking enough to deserve it, suggesting that you knew for a fact that he wasn't scum and were just trying to earn brownie points—I don't know. But tunneling you obviously isn't actually going to be helpful right now since no one else seems to want you lynched.

1.) I posted, quite obviously, that I defended GLG because I didn't believe our game was so without protective roles that an UnCCed bodyguard could be lynched. Especially when his role involves his death. It's a terrible scum fake claim for living any real length of time. Thanks for reminding me though. Keep in mind that BEATSTICK NEVER COUNTER CLAIMED PROTECTIVE ROLE ON GLG!!!!

2.) I didn't want you lynched to get your ability. I didn't think I'd get any ability. I thought you were scum, but I had a fail safe in the event that I was wrong. I also don't like that HEP NEVER CCED INVESTIGATIVE ROLE ON CIRCUS!!!!

3.) In a game with few investigative PRs and multiple players with single shots I couldn't inherit after they were used, how does my role not make sense and line up with my play?

I'm really ****ing tired of you saying I'm scummy then having no concrete reasons to back it up.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Sorry bro.


Do you think town Circus is lying about any of his reads?

Posting the user's avatar, who do you think would be the scum buddy if one of the scum was Nabe and what would be the 1-10 surprise factor that Nabe was scum.

Posting the avatar again, who's more likely to flip scum toDay, Hep or Ran?

 

[Radical Fiction]

Also, I've played in only pictures before and it's hard to do if people talk at, above, or around you. If there's **** you want to talk about, ask Red Ruy in a way he can respond, don't make it where he just has to sit there. It's a HELL of a lot easier to respond in pictures than to create your own case in a way that can be understood by everyone.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Ran, drop the ****ing Batman claim is a scumtell line. He had a reason to and doing so wasn't scummy. What in your slot's play should make me not lynch you?

 

[Radical Fiction]

By the way, I don't remember if I mentioned it before, but I think Bean **** is legit a jailer. I don't think he's mafia with a protective role. If he's mafia, I think he's just a roleblocker with Jailer-like flavor and a jailer safer claim since RR is roleblocker. However, I think he actually does give protection because I think Gheb was trying to shoot me last night.

If not, he was trying to shoot Ran. Both our role blockers are accounted for and I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell he no-shot. I also don't think priority on a night kill would stop anything except perhaps a scum crossfire and probably not that with multiple scum left.

 

[Xivii]

He shot Ran not you.

 

[Xivii]

Circus my 2097 was directed at you.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Do you think town Circus is lying about any of his reads?

Posting the user's avatar, who do you think would be the scum buddy if one of the scum was Nabe and what would be the 1-10 surprise factor that Nabe was scum.

Posting the avatar again, who's more likely to flip scum toDay, Hep or Ran?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Why would I be scum with Ran lol.

Vote: Hep
Might be L-1, idk

 

[Overswarm]

Votecount:
HepAlien - Beatstick, Zen, Ranmaru, Nabe,
Ranmaru - Circus,
Beatstick - Red Ryu,

Not voting: Radical Fiction, HepAlien,
With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
A deadline has been set for Monday, May 9th, at 3:00 p.m. EST

 

[Circus]

3.) In a game with few investigative PRs and multiple players with single shots I couldn't inherit after they were used, how does my role not make sense and line up with my play?

Your ability is not inherently unbelievable. It just doesn't make any sense for the character that you claim to be (which, I guess I need to point out, looks to be a very rare occurrence in this game), and it is easy to fake.

Let me be clear. On D2, you pushed for my lynch—as I said, even lied about the restrictions of your ability in order to make it seem more necessary—in order to get rid of me. The was back when I was the only claimed investigative role in the entire game. If you didn't want to do it in order to take my ability (as I suspect that you very well may not even be able to actually do that) then what you were doing was desperately trying to kill the one investigative role you knew of. All game since then, you have been one of the only players (maybe the only player) to flat-out refuse to cooperate with my lie detector ability, effectively making it impossible for me to investigate you. Is it really so difficult to see why I would find this suspicious? Before, you played it off as "don't waste your investigation on me; not worth it." But now, I don't see the point. Clearing you completely would almost be as helpful as bingo-ing scum at this stage in the game. If you are town, you should have nothing to fear.

There is so much scum in this game.

*glances at recent posts*

I ****ing wish I could just daykill Nabe, Ran, RadFic and Beat all at the same time, by myself. Holy matrimony.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Just hammer Hep, it's cool. If she's not scum, you can just lasso RF.

 

[Circus]

There isn't anything for me to lasso RadFic for, because he's dodging me. I could lasso Hep's claim post if I had to. That would make way more sense than lynching her. I could even lasso Beat's claim post, which is another reason why I'm less adamant about lynching him than other players toDay. But you and RadFic are both undoable right now, and Ran might be impossible, which I am not ****ing comfortable with.

We are not lynching our best investigative role while you and Ran and Beat are sitting around doing nothing and RadFic's busy scumming up the place.

Nabe, in the clearest, mos persuasive terms possible, why is Ran town and why is Hep scum? In your own words. Is Ran your scumbuddy?

 

[ranmaru]

Why do you think Rad is dodging you?

 

[Circus]

Why do you think Rad is dodging you?

If you're asking me what reason RadFic would have for dodging me, it would be because he has something to hide, obviously.

If you're asking me why it is that I perceive him to be dodging me, it is because he is overtly, by his own admission, doing so.

 

[Beat!]

Wait, wait, wait.

Are we done? I've not got anything really to add except that Circus is a moron and that Hep town targeting me when I'm jailed would have no reason to fail because jailer roleblocks you and protects you. It doesn't make you untouchable.

Yes, it does. No abilities can target the person I jail.