Super Heroes Mafia: Day 7 ends! Nabe and Circus wins! Zen dies in end game!

[Beat!]

@Ran

Yeah, beat's pretty townie I think...

I don't think I've seen you say this before. For how long have you had a town read on me, and for what reasons?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Unvote

I didn't realize that RF hadn't made an "I'm town" post and I don't want a hammer until he does.

 

[ranmaru]

I have said this since the beginning of time. No seriously though, I have had a town read on you. Most likely because of how X1 treated you and such. Plus you don't seem to be acting like you did in FE.

Although I had you as pretty townie in FE anyways lol.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Your ability is not inherently unbelievable. It just doesn't make any sense for the character that you claim to be (which, I guess I need to point out, looks to be a very rare occurrence in this game), and it is easy to fake.

Let me be clear. On D2, you pushed for my lynch—as I said, even lied about the restrictions of your ability in order to make it seem more necessary—in order to get rid of me. The was back when I was the only claimed investigative role in the entire game. If you didn't want to do it in order to take my ability (as I suspect that you very well may not even be able to actually do that) then what you were doing was desperately trying to kill the one investigative role you knew of. All game since then, you have been one of the only players (maybe the only player) to flat-out refuse to cooperate with my lie detector ability, effectively making it impossible for me to investigate you. Is it really so difficult to see why I would find this suspicious? Before, you played it off as "don't waste your investigation on me; not worth it." But now, I don't see the point. Clearing you completely would almost be as helpful as bingo-ing scum at this stage in the game. If you are town, you should have nothing to fear.

There is so much scum in this game.

*glances at recent posts*

I ****ing wish I could just daykill Nabe, Ran, RadFic and Beat all at the same time, by myself. Holy matrimony.

So you completely drop the other two fabricated points and acknowledge that my role makes sense within the confines of the set-up if not with the flavor?

Radical Fiction does not do desperate.

No, no it wouldn't be worth it to clear me over a bingo. Not when the only person outside of today's lynchpool who wants me gone is you who convienently is the lie detector and wants to be a hero.

Wait, wait, wait.



Yes, it does. No abilities can target the person I jail.

I suddenly find you a hell of a lot less believable.

Unvote

I didn't realize that RF hadn't made an "I'm town" post and I don't want a hammer until he does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHmEIaJ0dSg

You're a funny guy. I'd offer to trade you my post for your's, but then I'd just go back on the deal after you posted it.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Unvote Vote: Radical Fiction

 

[Radical Fiction]

Again, do it. I'm not going to let other people's idiocy weigh down on my conscience. You just want me to make that post and I won't do it. You know Hep or even Ran is a better lynch than me and I'm not going to let your veiled threat change my course of action. Go bother Nabe until he makes his "I'm Town" post.

Red Ruy, 1-10 surprise factor on me flipping scum?

Percent chance that I'm simply being a **** and refusing to cooperate because I have no faith in Circus?

Are you going to wait on Zen to post before lynching me knowing that I have a mod vote coming for a mis-post and that scum could easily jump onto my bandwagon and feign ignorance?

Posting avatars, who do you think will vote with you if it comes time to lynch me?

Is my open refusal to make the post scummier than Nabe's covert refusal to do the same?

 

[Radical Fiction]

Also, regardless of your read on me please post a 1-10 on how helpful it is to have a stream of questions aimed at you so I can use this data the next time I play a game with just pictures (there will be a next time, I assure you).

 

[Xivii]

unv ote

 

[Xivii]

Vote: Circus

 

[Xivii]

Circus my 2097 please.

 

[Overswarm]

Votecount:
HepAlien - Beatstick, , Ranmaru,
Ranmaru - Circus,
Radical Fiction - Red Ryu,
Circus - Zen

Not voting: Radical Fiction, HepAlien, Nabe
With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
A deadline has been set for Monday, May 9th, at 3:00 p.m. EST

 

[Circus]

Circus my 2097 please.

I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone, because I could have sworn I answered it after you prodded me to the first time. I guess I got caught up responding to RadFic.

Basically, what I thought I already said was that I wouldn't mind lynching Beat at all. I've said that several times. The main reason my vote is on Ran instead is because I want to lynch him about as much, and he lacks even the possibility of having a beneficial role for town. He can't protect anyone; he can't be investigated; he's a liability.

I still want Rad to make that post, but Nabe seriously has no business bullying him into doing it until he makes one.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

You're a funny guy. I'd offer to trade you my post for your's, but then I'd just go back on the deal after you posted it.

>My face when I've already made that post, twice

Ryu should quote this with a suitable face picture.

 

[Xivii]

I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone, because I could have sworn I answered it after you prodded me to the first time. I guess I got caught up responding to RadFic.

Basically, what I thought I already said was that I wouldn't mind lynching Beat at all. I've said that several times. The main reason my vote is on Ran instead is because I want to lynch him about as much, and he lacks even the possibility of having a beneficial role for town. He can't protect anyone; he can't be investigated; he's a liability.

I still want Rad to make that post, but Nabe seriously has no business bullying him into doing it until he makes one.

@The last sentence. What exactly is a problem with Nabe trying to help do the very thing you're pissing over?????


????JGmjM`?

 

[Radical Fiction]

So Circus, how is blustering and making empty threats different from fudging the specifics of my role to get what I want done, out of curiosity?

 

[Xivii]

OK Super plan v2.75

What do you guys say about lynching Circus.

He flips town, Rad gets his results, Beat jails Hep. Scum will be forced to killing Rad. Or Rad will get to investigate Beat. We then lynch Hep (likely but wed gotta put in some mylo work)the next day, unless ofc we have a guilty on Beat. (With Hep and Ran both blocked, there would likely be no Night kill.

If Circus flips scum, Beat jails Hep. Hep would defs be Circuses buddy. Scum don't get to kill. We lynch Hep the next day. Win.

 

[Circus]

@The last sentence. What exactly is a problem with Nabe trying to help do the very thing you're pissing over?????


????JGmjM`?

If he could actually get RadFic to do it, that would be great. The thing is, he's pretty scummy himself and needs to be making the exact same post. He's in no position to be puffing out his chest and acting like a cleared townie. Why you think he's so trustworthy is beyond me.

I'm just going to assume that last part was you emptying a bag of tennis balls over your keyboard before hitting post.

So Circus, how is blustering and making empty threats different from fudging the specifics of my role to get what I want done, out of curiosity?

...You mean other than the fact that it's a completely different thing? I half-jokingly bluffed in a last ditch hope that you might actually cooperate with me. You lied about your role in order to try to make other people more willing to kill me.

Zen, I hate you so much.

 

[Xivii]

Go bother Nabe until he makes his "I'm Town" post.

If he could actually get RadFic to do it, that would be great. The thing is, he's pretty scummy himself and needs to be making the exact same post.

I am a member of the town and I win with the town.

How can you guys not remember this?

 

[Xivii]

Zen, I hate you so much.

How come?

Plan Super v2.75 should satisfy you. If you're town, then Rad dies.

 

[Xivii]

Unvote; Vote: Hep

 

[Beat!]

I have said this since the beginning of time. No seriously though, I have had a town read on you. Most likely because of how X1 treated you and such. Plus you don't seem to be acting like you did in FE.

Although I had you as pretty townie in FE anyways lol.

So you've had a town read on me since X1 flipped scum? Is that correct?

 

[Xivii]

Cool what rereading can do. I have some stuff to posts later.

 

[Circus]

How can you guys not remember this?

I do remember that. But he hasn't posted a post similar to that toDay, which is the whole point.

How come?

Plan Super v2.75 should satisfy you. If you're town, then Rad dies.

According to your plan, he only dies because scum kills him for being town and gaining my ability. I don't want him to die for that, and we still don't even know if that's even something he can really do. Your plan doesn't even leave open the option for Rad to be scum.

You're such a tease.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Again, do it. I'm not going to let other people's idiocy weigh down on my conscience. You just want me to make that post and I won't do it. You know Hep or even Ran is a better lynch than me and I'm not going to let your veiled threat change my course of action. Go bother Nabe until he makes his "I'm Town" post.

Red Ruy, 1-10 surprise factor on me flipping scum?

Percent chance that I'm simply being a **** and refusing to cooperate because I have no faith in Circus?

Are you going to wait on Zen to post before lynching me knowing that I have a mod vote coming for a mis-post and that scum could easily jump onto my bandwagon and feign ignorance?

Posting avatars, who do you think will vote with you if it comes time to lynch me?

Is my open refusal to make the post scummier than Nabe's covert refusal to do the same?

 

[Xivii]

I do remember that. But he hasn't posted a post similar to that toDay, which is the whole point.

Oh it has to be from the previous day?

According to your plan, he only dies because scum kills him for being town and gaining my ability. I don't want him to die for that, and we still don't even know if that's even something he can really do. Your plan doesn't even leave open the option for Rad to be scum.

You're such a tease.

How is him being NKed and him being lynched different lol. No matter how he dies, it gives us the same information. I was going to say that we could just lynch him if he doesn't die, but he is town and that would be dumb. Circus look back at freaking day 1. Radfic was pushing for X1 over anyone else. The interaction between them shows no sign of S v S.

 

[Xivii]

Beat was so town D1. Beat has shown to be a pretty good scum player, but it's so hard for me to see him as scum from his d1 play. I wonder if there is like a scum recruiter or something Nabe.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I am town.
I win with the town.
My role is Batman, town playboy.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I really don't want to speculate about a recruiter or do any setup speculation with this game at all, urgh.

I'd imagine there are like a million villains that can control minds etc.

 

[Xivii]

I was thinking you could be scum recruiter. And decided to recruit your Fire Emblem buds.

 

[Circus]

Oh it has to be from the previous day?

Yes.

How is him being NKed and him being lynched different lol. No matter how he dies, it gives us the same information.

If we were to lynch RadFic at this point, it wouldn't be for information. I would be looking to hit scum in that scenario. If he's town, then his death doesn't do us any good.

I was going to say that we could just lynch him if he doesn't die, but he is town and that would be dumb. Circus look back at freaking day 1. Radfic was pushing for X1 over anyone else. The interaction between them shows no sign of S v S.

This is a decent point, though not as concrete as I think you're treating it; I'll have to go back and read it for myself in a bit. Regardless, why aren't we lynching Ranmaru then?

Beat was so town D1. Beat has shown to be a pretty good scum player, but it's so hard for me to see him as scum from his d1 play. I wonder if there is like a scum recruiter or something Nabe.

I thought Beat looked pretty town on D1, too. But the reasons for which he looked town then have been fading as Days have gone on. It's not that difficult for scum to act town at first and then just peter out later. Don't let earlier play dictate your read on a player for the rest of the game.

I am town.
I win with the town.
My role is Batman, town playboy.

You're a doll. Now get at my 2117, please.

 

[ranmaru]

So you've had a town read on me since X1 flipped scum? Is that correct?

Since I replaced in. Don't you remember I didn't want you to be lynched?

 

[Xivii]

Circus, I'll save you the trouble.

@RF & Gheb: Stop dancing around the outside of the game. Talk about the other one.

@RF: Has Swiss been a part of your Zen read?

1.) Za?
2.) What does it matter?

Ohhhhhhhh, you mean what's my read on Gheb?

Helpful. He's on the wagon I want to be on and he's been on it since it started. Null read, but helpful.

2.) It matters because Swiss shouldn't be that wrong about Zen. Ryker being so is understandable

Why's that ?

Swiss has played with Zen more, Swiss is better at scumhunting that Ryker imo. Ryker gets too caught up in stuff which is on the surface obvscummy like Zen's rolefishing but Swiss would do less so.

Zen, then X1, then a tentative Clown without having consulted Swiss about him.

Zen take off your blinders. Are you seriously thinking Gheb is town?

I don't have any other real scum suspects atm, the closest would be RF because of how comfortable they are with doing seemingly very little. That and their #410 looks like an easy escape and doesn't fit with how they'd been playing. Suddenly saying they're ****ing around when all the posts before and after are in srs voice. Gheb is still by far the strongest scum read.

I find it humorous that X1 thinks he can correctly guess the intent behind all of our posts.

Ok, so this is me with some input from skimmin' Swiss. He's supposed to reread better later today, so it might be subject to change because, as I said, we've got too many people we think could be scum.

Scum team:

Circus
X1
Gheb/Rajam One or the other, not both.

Honorable mention goes to Kuz because he should be around here more often.

Zen vs. Circus was fun to read. The only time Circus has pushed somewhere that might push back is Gheb and he seems to be backpedaling there. Personally, I think it smacks of distancing.

X1 is sooooooo off to me. Swiss doesn't know why X1 thinks he could read Zen any better than I can. The Bean **** thing was bad as well. He just doesn't read town. I'd have to reread again to put it better.

Gheb, ah Gheb. We love you. You're a real bro. We need to be the same alignment sometime. However, you're not DOING much of anything. You voted Zen early on in a vote I could agree with, but then you make these offcolor comments about Red Ryu that have NO POINT TO THEM. Yeah sure, you can play it off, but what purpose did it serve in the first place? Now you're joining the Rajam thing that's going on and it's a fairly easy wagon. Not gonna lie though, you're gonna be hell to lynch late game if you can coast that far.

Gheb, can I get your top 4 scum picks?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Alright then, two matters of business that I need to conduct before I'm done.

Zen, neither of us can read you well. This is a fact. I, at least, am going to let you by with a big fat null unless you **** up majorly. Don't be offended if we do a lot of ignoring you.

Moriarty, I talked to Swiss about you as well. Hold hands with us?

I like Zen a lot more despite the way he played the beginning because his reads line up with mine.

Unvote Vote: X1

Both of you have said you're fine with either, so vote X1 for me. I feel we'll get much more out of it.

Note that at this point Rajam was getting a lot of heat. I had just made a case on Rajam and Vanderzant and I had just voted Rajam, but I also was saying that I want X1 lynched. Rad pushed for X1 over Rajam.

Rajam is a much better Vig target if you want to do that.

This is after Moriarty proposes that we lynch Rajam and Vig X1. Rad prefered lynching X1 and vigging Rajam.

Radical Fiction should die with no elaboration. Cool.

First off, I think you're a moron.
Swiss thinks you're a moron.
And it seems that Gheb thinks you're a moron.

Gheb, join the X1 wagon?

Lovely jump from moron to scum there, what's up with that? I'm pretty sure if he was town and had actually read the game it'd be painfully obvious to Swiss that Gheb is scum ergo giving me a massive scum vibe, not to mention your inability to get properly involved or really aid at all in terms of scumhunting. This big self-defence post I just quoted is real cool though, do it more often. The thought process me attacking you -> you thinking I'm a moron -> you thinking I should be wagonned is truly amazing also.

Anyway, your post shows that you're skimming. Ten points to Gryfindor if you can tell me why.

1.) We've had you as scum and have posted why.
2.) You're buddying Swiss.
3.) Gheb is on our scum list, you're massively sheeping on that.
4.) I will point out where someone is trying to convince Town that I'm scum without saying why.
5.) You're slow. We've been on your wagon, *******.

I'm not in anyway buddying Swiss, I'm saying he's either A) an idiot, or B) scum. Because like me he knows when gheb is scum, i.e now but hasn't been saying that or pushing him. Not gonna lie I don't remember any reasoning from you about why I'm scum, last thing I remember from you on the topic is Swiss just agreeing with Zen, but I'll look it over again when I get a chance

Opportunistic Clown is opportunistic. You and I both know his name had been tossed out there more than enough to warrant addressing.

X1 and Circus are scu~um.

I'd be willing to lynch Circus today if X1 can't happen.

I believe you're scum, so why should I put stock in your Gheb read?

Why don't you just look at Gheb's posts for anything more than 2-3 seconds and realise that he's scum?

Hey X1. You can read scum Gheb, right? Where's your proof that you can read town Gheb and not that you simply always think he's scum?

Never changed. He's scummy as ****. I simply think it's too much for him not to be dumb town. Just like with Gheb, I think he could be scum, but an X1 or a Circus lynch would be infinitely better.

RF why is it only the meta points that you try to dispute, and why are you even defending gheb? IIRC you've given no reasoning, even when called out by Mori you just say its obvious that he's town, but now you think he might be scum, but you're still defending him???

Also I read him as town in community.

X1, I would think it would be obvious. I'm not defending him, I'm attacking you and Circus for using a bad point to pad your case.

Not gonna lie it definitely is defending when you are saying someone's case against another is bad


Gheb disgusting me with that terrible PR hint

Not gonna lie, it's buddying when you play up someone's scum hunting abilities to try and make them come to your PoV as you did with Swiss.

This argument is moving me farther and farther from a Gheb lynch, FYI.

Note that there have been plenty of opportunities for Rad to vote for another scummy player. Gheb was getting a pile of votes during this time. Raj was up. You, Circus was possible. And DH was possible as well. Rad pushed for X1 over all of these.

 

[HepAlien]

Zen, why are you trying so hard to clear Radical Fiction's name right now? it's unnecessary. you're shouting into the wind.

BeatStick, it's possible that you already answered this, but are you capable of jailing yourself? also, where are you going with your questions to Ranmaru? do you think he's mafia? seems like you're posting filler.

 

[Xivii]

Hep please respond to my 2051 n_n! And please don't make Ranmaru-level posts. You're better than that.

You see in mafia, the goal of the town is to win. We do that by lynching scum. We out scum by scumhunting, making cases, and developing our reads on other players. Are you with me so far?

You see it's Day 4 and we still have two scum maybe even three scum out there! So as town we need to, you know, play the game and get to lynchin' the scummies if we want to win

[Pause here for a mental break]









You see Circus is over here ****ing about how scummy Radfic is. Now me personally I think Radfic is town and I have some pretty strong evidence to support that belief. So why on earth would I NOT put forth that evidence? It's called discussion. It's how we progress. Someone says something wrong, someone else says something right, they discuss about it, exchange views, progress reads, etc. If the person who is right can show the other wrong then they will move in a positive direction. Where as if they say nothing (like you like to do a lot of) then the wrong person just goes about spatting incorrect accusations and is led totally down the wrong path and more often than not he brings others down with him. You can see how this can cause a problem for town? Discussion, debate, accccusations, evidence, OBJECTIONS! These are all components that are usually required to lead town to victory.

So why my love do I "try so hard" to express, in two out of hundreds of posts, evidence against what I believe to be wrong (during which hardly anyone else is posting any content)?




Victory, Rebecca... victory and nothing more...

 

[Xivii]

Hep in regards to your question at Beat. If a jailer jails himself, he essentially just counters out his action. Because part of being a jailer is roleblocking, he would roleblock his roleblock as well as his protection so it's basically like doing nothing.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Nabe, in the clearest, mos persuasive terms possible, why is Ran town and why is Hep scum? In your own words. Is Ran your scumbuddy?

Ran is town because I think he's town. Do you think he's scum? Has anyone made a case? It's not my job; innocent until proven guilty.

Why is Hep scum? For the reasons that have been expressed. She's a good lynch. I've personally said that I'm inclined to keep an investigative role around, but nothing is coming of that. No one wants a Beat lynch in her place. I'm suspicious of Boba Fett flavourwise like she is. Just not suspicious enough to care.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Ran is town because I think he's town. Do you think he's scum? Has anyone made a case? It's not my job; innocent until proven guilty.

Why is Hep scum? For the reasons that have been expressed. She's a good lynch. I've personally said that I'm inclined to keep an investigative role around, but nothing is coming of that. No one wants a Beat lynch in her place. I'm suspicious of Boba Fett flavourwise like she is. Just not suspicious enough to care.

Spare me the burden of proof speech. IIRC, you were on Kevin even though he, "did nothing." We're at the point in the game lynches can be decided via process of elimination because we can limit it to who we don't have a town read on. Null reads are scum reads here. You're intentionally dodging the question. I don't care if it was Dumcus that asked it, it's a fair question.

What do you think of Zen coming to my defense?

 

[Xivii]

Nabe you seriously should have some reasoning. What points against Hep do you agree with?

 

[Xivii]

What do you think of Zen coming to my defense?

>implying radfic is weak

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

She went out of claim order and that was scummy for the reasons other people have said. I also liked your plan here.

Vote: Hep

Let's do it.

I think that if Hep flips scum we should definitely jail Circus.

If Hep flips town then Beat can be scum but since we are directing his action I think Ryu would be the best jail, simply for a placeholder/protection. This way, Circustown can use his investigation on Beat. If he dies then Rad will get his result. We could also have him Jail Circus in hopes of a No kill. That would mean Circus is scum and Ranmaru is scum since they are both roleblocked. The only problem with this is that scumbeat could simply not kill, and he and his Ran buddy get a mislynch and win the game. Though what we could do to counter this is no lynch D5 and then have Beat roleblock someone else.

@RF: I don't think anything of Zen coming to your defense. His defense looks very unbiased and I like the conclusions he draws, and they seem sincere.