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I can send you the file with all that if you want. All versions of the banner are exactly identical. Before and after K Rool and Isabelle. You can see them all in my video and I switch between them, you can just pause the video and compare, they are exactly identical.
And Mach Rider. Say what you will about the other characters being easy to call, but I'm pretty sure Excite Bike had more supporters than Mach Rider. That's a Sakurai pick if I ever saw one imo.
Sakuri did consider Mach Rider for Melee, but ultimately never did because of the bike. I think, feel free to correct me.
That’s quite the tinfoil hat conspiracy you got there. Personally I hope you’re right because that leak being real would be the greatest Smash game ever! Fingers crossed.
That is a very plausible explanation. Gematsu was also a real leak, and that was composed of outdated information as well. This suggestion would also explain why so many surface leakers claim Incinroar, and say this is fake as a result. Under this version of the events, Incinroar is in, but he was the lastest addition, put in after the initial roster was decided. That would bring the unique newcomer count to 11, which is STILL lowest in the series too.
I'm still unsure of the leak, but I'm convinced that Isaac is in at this point.
Or... you know... Inciniroar was a red herring.
Yet the version that showed up on the side of the van for the Wendy’s event apparently has a different background that matches the Grinch leak.
Makes sense, the painted renders are obviously separate images that will be moved as needed for when a new character is shown. Just compare it before and after the August direct.
It doesn't. The van is using an outdated mural (before Isabelle). In the latest mural Megaman was moved upwards. That crystal was underneath his blaster, when he was moved upwards it is no longer underneath his blaster.
You really gotta catch up before you post these things. This has also been disproven several times over, the tour bus one is from the pre-Isabelle version where positioning was different.
I have heard this in defense of Mach, but in a way that only solidifies that it would be more of a Sakurai choice than a fan choice, giving credence to the notion that it's not an entirely fans-picked-the-roster game (If Inklings and Isabelle didn't already prove that.)
I'm trying to stay caught up, but geez, this is moving fast.
That just depends on the character. Krool was included as a fan character. Your right about Inkling and Isabelle though.
Faster than a speeding bullet, this group is.
Point is, background has never changed and all posts saying so are making the same mistake as the Megaman picture. They are looking at characters and their surroundings without being aware that ALL characters are moved on every single version. Literally all characters are moved upwards and made smaller on every version to make it look like they are farther away (that way they can fit more characters), because of this the things right next to the characters will look different between each version, but the background actually remains identical.
Oh for sure. The game is largely a tying up loose ends, wish fulfillment game, or at least it's shaping up to be. Ridley, Simon/Richter, K. Rool, and Isaac and Geno possibly on the horizon make that clear. Still, it does have some typical smash choices. Modern characters like Inklings and Isabelle, with many thinking a Spring Man DLC is very likely, and as stated, and odd ball/retro in Mach Rider, and we still have the Sakurai picks that weren't entirely motivated by fans.
I mean, honestly, I think trying to analyze blurry footage of a promotional item on an unknown material is futile and pointless, but you guys stick to your guns.
Sakurai makes my dreams come true
The sad part is, the only reason I went so deep is because I wanted to prove the leak real because I want Isaac in. It's the first Smash Ultimate leak I believe out of all of them
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Neon with all due respect, I share the same love as you do for this game. I'm caught up. I'm pretty much just sharing what I believe to be true. Positioning is different on several different marketing posters, myself working at GameStop and seeing several examples. I don't myself believe this debunks anything, I think it further proves the point - since the characters have been moved around for a while, it's not up for debate that the Grinch leak having certain things moved around doesn't debunk it.
Do you have any credentials outside of being analytical? Actually a legitimate question. I'm not trying to be a ****, I just don't remember if you had an important position in the community or a history of leak analysis.The sad part is, the only reason I went so deep is because I wanted to prove the leak real because I want Isaac in. It's the first Smash Ultimate leak I believe out of all of them
I am normally very skeptical, in Smash 4 speculation I only believed a total of 3 leaks, one that guessed like 2 characters in a row but ended up being fake, Palutena model and ESRB. I believed the Rayman too if that counts and Roy/Ryu/Lucas although there was no way to not believe in a code dump, lol. I didn't believe Gematsu back then although I now believe he did have information and I was wrong. I haven't believed a single Smash U leak, not even Vergeben, not even the Box theory (which isn't really a leak, but point is I don't believe it anyways).
Why would I need credentials if I show something that is undeniably fact? I am not talking about whether the leak is real or fake. If I show you a picture of a cat with a scratch and tell you he has a scratch, why would I need to be a vet if the scratch is extremely visible in the picture? In the video I showed everything I talked about, if I am showing you specifically what I am talking about and you can see it with your own eyes, why would I need to have any credentials?
With all due respect, you shouldn't outright ignore whatever doesn't align with what you want to be true and then claim things that aren't true as fact and say it's because you want to. It's not about things being moved around, it's about things outright missing or being different.
I just don't think there's a point to what you're doing, and you're analyzing yourself into a death spiral.The sad part is, the only reason I went so deep is because I wanted to prove the leak real because I want Isaac in. It's the first Smash Ultimate leak I believe out of all of them
I am normally very skeptical, in Smash 4 speculation I only believed a total of 3 leaks, one that guessed like 2 characters in a row but ended up being fake, Palutena model and ESRB. I believed the Rayman too if that counts and Roy/Ryu/Lucas although there was no way to not believe in a code dump, lol. I didn't believe Gematsu back then although I now believe he did have information and I was wrong. I haven't believed a single Smash U leak, not even Vergeben, not even the Box theory (which isn't really a leak, but point is I don't believe it anyways).
Way too early for this stuff to be a thing. That’s when the game was just starting development. Even if we assume the concept art of all the fighters was made with the banner in mind, there’s no reason whatsoever for that to be outside of Nintendo until they decide to advertise. Seeing as Smash wasn’t revealed until March 2018, and Ultimate wasn’t seriously shown off til E3 2018, there isn’t going to be promotional material out there before let’s say even May 2018.
Or, assuming it’s fake: A guy finds a halfway convincing LinkedIn profile of a guy that he can use, and bases his whole leak around that guy so that the breadcrumbs line up well enough. This is all extremely doable from one dude being dedicated to his idea. I know people tout that’s too much, but we spend as much time on SmashBoards for fun, what’s to say a guy didn’t decide to spend his time making an elaborate fake for fun?
, I still think our boy has a good shot regardless of the leak)
Because, what you're seeing isn't *as* clear cut as a cat with a scratch. Something like this has a ton of variables that either aren't being considered or might even be irrelevant. We don't know.
Your signature is only missing Shadow for the Grinch Leak. Props to you if they all come true.(Still cautiously optimistic about the Grinch leak, but thought I'd whip this up for fun
No, because if you've actually read my posts or watch my videos I am always very precise about what I say. I always narrow it down to 1 or 2 variables, please I implore you to watch my video so you can see how I think/speak.
Yeah, super predictable. A character from a dormant RPG franchise whose last game was in 2010, a character who appeared in a single game in 1996, a character owned by Microsoft, a character from a niche series, and a character from a 1985 game. Plus no Pokémon.
That’s right, the Custom Robo trademark didn’t expire.Ah geez that plant. Come on plant, don't just show up like that. Maaaan now I'm all super hyped up super super hyped.
Also geez it's been a while since I've had to catch up every day, huh? Nice to see the thread having lots of activity again. :3
So we have the Grinch Leak which some people believe, some people don't, some people hmm. I am semi-biased towards it, but I will understand if it's not true. But it's a gigantic tangled web of a mess, that one. Most of the things people are picking on are graphical mishaps, which can be subject to change throughout the process. The empty background could simply be a reference so all the characters can be properly added in places and to keep things to scale and make sure everything fits, and could be less detailed because of that. (Naturally I could be wrong, but hey, gotta give my own perspective.)
So we have a green item, a green leak and a green tweet (Not really.). Hmm hmm. Things are looking pretty all right at the moment I'd say, I'm hopeful.
I seem to recall, but may be incorrect in remembering this, that the trademark canceled was only about CD-based things. I don't believe it was the entire trademark for the series that got canned. I might be wrong, by all means someone correct me, cause I hate being wrong.
The main robot from Custom Robo.
Actually incorrect, the trademark that expired was for a single game, not the IP.
Narrowed down or not, you can *never* account for all the variables unless you were part of the process yourself. Armchair observation will only get you so far.
That's the logic, but if you go down the list of potential canidates for what the item actually is. You either A, think it's a mario item which can easily be debunked because the beanstalk is almost always in a block B, it's a food item. This can also be debunked on account of food in smash looking very realistic. C- Its a golden sun item. Or D- It's a new smash item, and if that's the case why has it taken so long to be revealed? The most logical conclusion for me is that it's growth, until someone finds out what else the item could be.
