Skyblade12
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So...
I'm absurdly hopeful right now.
Because of a combination of the Smash Ballot, Ridley, and all the disconfirmations that have taken place so far.
Most of the Underdogs have been eliminated. Waluigi, Midna, Ghirahim, Sukapon, Krystal, Bomberman (he always had a much larger base of supporters than Simon Beltmont did), and Takamaru. Takamaru especially quite shocked me, since Sakurai was pulling for him.
Meanwhile, Sakurai said "I'm kind of hoping you aren't expecting too many new challengers". As well as saying that Ridley was introduced because of fan outcry, especially overseas.
The smaller newcomer roster makes me think that the "guaranteed" newcomers aren't going to make it in. I'm not sure we'll even get a new Pokémon. I mean, the series is already up to nine, and there's no real reason to include one. "We need Decidueye to get the grass-fire-water trio back!" Well, Pokémon trainer handled that. Pokémon also has the highest total number of characters on the roster already. If we were looking at a more standard amount of newcomers? Sure. But now? It'd be adding a Pokémon just to add a Pokémon, on a roster that is already going to be smaller than usual. I don't think Sakurai would do that.
I also don't think more third party characters are too likely. Except for maybe Banjo and Rayman, I think Bomberman was among the higher requested third party newcomers. And he made it to Assist Trophy. Crash wasn't hugely requested until N-Sane trilogy was announced, which was way too late (and missed the ballot).
Scizor has returned, so we know that old Pokeball Pokémon that were previously cut are back. This means that old Assist Trophies are likely to return as well (especially with the "Ultimate" game bringing back all the characters from previous titles).
If our polling is anything close to accurate, Isaac is one of the two first party characters with the highest numbers of requests, right up there with K. Rool. At the very least, that support has to have been noticed. So his Assist Trophy would return.
But Isaac hasn't been disconfirmed yet. Most of the other top-tier requests have been.
Who's higher than him in Japan?
K. Rool
Wolf - In
Roy - In
Bandana Dee
Inkling - In
Snake - In
Magalor
Ice Climbers - In
Geno
Paper Mario
Banjo and Kazooie
Krystal - Assist Trophy
Ashley
Jinbanyin
Dixie
Arle
Cloud - In
Isaac - YAY!
Bayonetta - In
Let's look at the Smashboards list from RTC:
1. King K. Rool (73.57%)
2. Bandana Dee (71.11%)
3. Ridley (67.36%) - In.
4. Decidueye (65.20%)
5. Dixie Kong (62.93%)
6. Banjo and Kazooie (61.29%)
7. Elma (60.18%)
8. Waluigi (60.00%) - Gone
9. Takamaru (58.93%) - Gone
10. Isaac (58.60%) - Yay!
So, across both regions, we have:
K. Rool (who I think is the closest thing to a shoo-in we have left)
Dixie (who I think is a likely Echo character, especially with K. Rool getting in, I don't think DK would get two all new characters)
Bandana Dee (possible, but honestly feeling a little generic at this point, despite my earlier support for him)
Banjo and Kazooie (most wanted third party, but now owned by Microsoft, chances unknown, but about equal to Rayman's, I think)
Elma (very likely to get in as well, IMO)
Arle has no Western presence, Geno's chances because of Sakurai bias seemed to die with Takamaru, Paper Mario seems to have basically no chance now (not distinct enough), Magalor feels too new and not important enough (if we get a Kirby rep, it'll be Bandana Dee), Jinbanyin fizzled, and Decidueye would be a Pokémon rep just for the sake of having a Pokémon rep.
We've lost a LOT of competition so far. We know we've been on Sakurai's lists, that he knows what Isaac can do. We know we've done well in almost every poll done, winning a couple and placing right up alongside K. Rool with others.
I'm thinking K. Rool, Elma, Bandana Dee, Dixie, and Isaac are the most likely to get in. I'm still thinking Dixie is likely an Echo. So that would put us in the top four, assuming we don't beat out Bandana Dee. Elma has a good shot, she had a vocal support group during the ballot, her game was at the right time, and she's unique. K. Rool has a ton going for him, and I think he's going to get in.
It will not take that many extra newcomers for Isaac to get in now. If we get half a dozen more, we may be golden.
Maybe I'm misreading things, but I feel like requirements have tightened in ways that only help Isaac.
I'm absurdly hopeful right now.
Because of a combination of the Smash Ballot, Ridley, and all the disconfirmations that have taken place so far.
Most of the Underdogs have been eliminated. Waluigi, Midna, Ghirahim, Sukapon, Krystal, Bomberman (he always had a much larger base of supporters than Simon Beltmont did), and Takamaru. Takamaru especially quite shocked me, since Sakurai was pulling for him.
Meanwhile, Sakurai said "I'm kind of hoping you aren't expecting too many new challengers". As well as saying that Ridley was introduced because of fan outcry, especially overseas.
The smaller newcomer roster makes me think that the "guaranteed" newcomers aren't going to make it in. I'm not sure we'll even get a new Pokémon. I mean, the series is already up to nine, and there's no real reason to include one. "We need Decidueye to get the grass-fire-water trio back!" Well, Pokémon trainer handled that. Pokémon also has the highest total number of characters on the roster already. If we were looking at a more standard amount of newcomers? Sure. But now? It'd be adding a Pokémon just to add a Pokémon, on a roster that is already going to be smaller than usual. I don't think Sakurai would do that.
I also don't think more third party characters are too likely. Except for maybe Banjo and Rayman, I think Bomberman was among the higher requested third party newcomers. And he made it to Assist Trophy. Crash wasn't hugely requested until N-Sane trilogy was announced, which was way too late (and missed the ballot).
Scizor has returned, so we know that old Pokeball Pokémon that were previously cut are back. This means that old Assist Trophies are likely to return as well (especially with the "Ultimate" game bringing back all the characters from previous titles).
If our polling is anything close to accurate, Isaac is one of the two first party characters with the highest numbers of requests, right up there with K. Rool. At the very least, that support has to have been noticed. So his Assist Trophy would return.
But Isaac hasn't been disconfirmed yet. Most of the other top-tier requests have been.
Who's higher than him in Japan?
K. Rool
Wolf - In
Roy - In
Bandana Dee
Inkling - In
Snake - In
Magalor
Ice Climbers - In
Geno
Paper Mario
Banjo and Kazooie
Krystal - Assist Trophy
Ashley
Jinbanyin
Dixie
Arle
Cloud - In
Isaac - YAY!
Bayonetta - In
Let's look at the Smashboards list from RTC:
1. King K. Rool (73.57%)
2. Bandana Dee (71.11%)
3. Ridley (67.36%) - In.
4. Decidueye (65.20%)
5. Dixie Kong (62.93%)
6. Banjo and Kazooie (61.29%)
7. Elma (60.18%)
8. Waluigi (60.00%) - Gone
9. Takamaru (58.93%) - Gone
10. Isaac (58.60%) - Yay!
So, across both regions, we have:
K. Rool (who I think is the closest thing to a shoo-in we have left)
Dixie (who I think is a likely Echo character, especially with K. Rool getting in, I don't think DK would get two all new characters)
Bandana Dee (possible, but honestly feeling a little generic at this point, despite my earlier support for him)
Banjo and Kazooie (most wanted third party, but now owned by Microsoft, chances unknown, but about equal to Rayman's, I think)
Elma (very likely to get in as well, IMO)
Arle has no Western presence, Geno's chances because of Sakurai bias seemed to die with Takamaru, Paper Mario seems to have basically no chance now (not distinct enough), Magalor feels too new and not important enough (if we get a Kirby rep, it'll be Bandana Dee), Jinbanyin fizzled, and Decidueye would be a Pokémon rep just for the sake of having a Pokémon rep.
We've lost a LOT of competition so far. We know we've been on Sakurai's lists, that he knows what Isaac can do. We know we've done well in almost every poll done, winning a couple and placing right up alongside K. Rool with others.
I'm thinking K. Rool, Elma, Bandana Dee, Dixie, and Isaac are the most likely to get in. I'm still thinking Dixie is likely an Echo. So that would put us in the top four, assuming we don't beat out Bandana Dee. Elma has a good shot, she had a vocal support group during the ballot, her game was at the right time, and she's unique. K. Rool has a ton going for him, and I think he's going to get in.
It will not take that many extra newcomers for Isaac to get in now. If we get half a dozen more, we may be golden.
Maybe I'm misreading things, but I feel like requirements have tightened in ways that only help Isaac.
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