Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

[RumpletrellskiN]

Something I was pondering is this Smashdown mode and just a little theory i have. excluding the mii's we have 68 characters and for smashdown maybe it can only be played with 2,3 and 4 players. If so for it to finish evenly with this said amount of players the character count would have to be 72. But if you include mii's (character count is 71)then maybe it's only a 4 player mode then we may finish out with 76.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Something I was pondering is this Smashdown mode and just a little theory i have. excluding the mii's we have 68 characters and for smashdown maybe it can only be played with 2,3 and 4 players. If so for it to finish evenly with this said amount of players the character count would have to be 72. But if you include mii's (character count is 71)then maybe it's only a 4 player mode then we may finish out with 76.

I don't think the number of characters we're getting has anything to do with Smashdown. It'll likely just end when there aren't enough characters for every player. (edit: That way you can have a number of players anywhere from 2 to 8 and not have to worry about how many characters are available)

Otherwise you wouldn't be able to play Smashdown until you unlocked every character. (because as you unlock the number of available characters would be constantly changing)

It would also make adding dlc characters later very difficult. They wouldn't be able to just add one character at a time, they'd have to add like 4 of them at once to keep it in line with Smashdown. (and they wouldn't be able to guarantee people would buy all four of those characters unless they bundled them together. It would be a mess.)

 

[Tetiro]

The 5000th Post! We did it guys!

What better way to celebrate with another of my memes drawn on a post-it note. Behold my five minute drawing skills!

Something I was pondering is this Smashdown mode and just a little theory i have. excluding the mii's we have 68 characters and for smashdown maybe it can only be played with 2,3 and 4 players. If so for it to finish evenly with this said amount of players the character count would have to be 72. But if you include mii's (character count is 71)then maybe it's only a 4 player mode then we may finish out with 76.

I know many game designers who will happily say they would work around odd numbers. I sadly don't think that theory holds much solid ground

 

[QcSlayer]

Can we be certain that Sakurai would use the background twice to tease?

The first time we had a rope and a freaking barrel, its hard to think they casually have that in theire studios...

But the second time it was goddamn cushions and chairs...
why not a mask on the wall? Or some music instrument?

The moon replacing Skull kid is no coincidence, he's ether playable or a boss.

Maybe Sakurai knew we would get the King k Roll reference and decided to change is way, thus leading to is post on tweeter.

 

[RumpletrellskiN]

Maybe but play smashdown when you open the game with 3 friends you will get in 2 matches. I think that's why they showed a massive character screen with smashdown...this mode could be unlocked later for all we know. Also why didnt it show the mii fighters from smashdown as well?

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Can we be certain that Sakurai would use the background twice to tease?

The first time we had a rope and a freaking barrel, its hard to think they casually have that in theire studios...

But the second time it was goddamn cushions and chairs...
why not a mask on the wall? Or some music instrument?

The moon replacing Skull kid is no coincidence, he's ether playable or a boss.

Maybe Sakurai knew we would get the King k Roll reference and decided to change is way, thus leading to is post on tweeter.

inb4 in the next direct there's a model of a lighthouse sitting on one of the shelves.

Edit: Wait correction....inb4 in the next direct there's something on the shelf that looks vaguely like a lighthouse after you've zoomed in x100.

 

[Pwnapplez]

We have 71 fighters including echoes

With Isabelle and Shadow being heavily hinted as echoes we would have 73 fighters. Out of the big 4 atm one of them will make it. I am leaning more to Geno but with the "leak" let us just say Skull Kid

That would be 74 fighters.

Sakurai did not say there will be a fighter cap

The MOST we will get is 80 fighters.

Stay positive, but if anything Geno and Skull kid are next to show off.

Do realize that Shulk was the last character to be shown off, so a final bang with a super popular character might not happen.

From the brawl trophies who has the highest chance to come back? Idk maybe the guy who has been heavily requested?

Isaac will make it back one way or another.

 

[alguidrag]

Smashers opinion on Isaac inclusion (one per series)
Mario: Mamamia please not another sword user

K.Roll: *Crocodile noises* (Hey I have seem that guy in the request pool he was right behind me)

Link: HEYAAAAAA (A blonde, sword user that don't use much of his sword? Are you guys replacing me?)

Samus: He seems fine for me... I wonder if he know something about the Baby

Yoshi: Yoshi Yoshi! (His Djinn seems delicious)

Kirby: HIIIIIII! ( YAY I CAN SUMMON MASTER HAND IF I ATE HIM!)

Wolf: So the brawl "Hand-guy" is here? I wanted Felix.

Mewtwo: A human with Psychic power that rivals mine? IMPOSSIBLE!

Ness:Okay!

Capt Falcon: Show me your MOVEs!

Ice Climbers: ... I wanted Mia...

Robin: A Sword user that can use earth Magic? I wonder if I can learn something with him.

Game & Watch: ....

Pit: Hey its that cool AT from Brawl! I'm glad he got his chance
(Bonus) DPit: FELIX IS BETTER!

Wario: I will get all his money!

Snake: So one of his friends can reveal hidden things? That's bad.

Sonic: You're late "Hands boy", too slow.

Pikmin: Can you grow more Pikmin for me?

R.O.B.: You are from Brawl, you are a cool guy.

Villager: So he can grow trees too? I will chop him down.

Megaman: He seems fine, I wonder which Robot master power will be strong against him.

Wii fit: He walked an entire continent? He is fine.

Lil Mac: YO ISAAC! Man you finally got here bro, I almost give up in the dream to fight alongside you.

Mii: YOU ARE NOT ONE OF US! WHERE IS GENO?

Pac-Man: Can you give me some fruit? I need to kill some ghosts.

Shulk: Even I could not see you coming so soon.

Duck Hunt: Who are you?

Ryu: Talk is cheap, Let's Fight!

Cloud: Finaly another JRPG guy I can talk about... so in your game you use Djinn to summon? Pretty cool.

Bayoneta: Looks like a cute boy... that gonna be fun.

Inkling: You can use Magic? YOU CAN USE INK MAGIC? No? Ok...

Richter: LIVE HUMAN! YOU BELONG TO THIS WORLD!


(bonus)Waluigi: Good luck in the game bro.

 

[?!?!?!]

Man, Sakurai just needs to add geno, Isaac, skull kid and bandana dee that would definitely satisfy the entire smash fanbase in one way or another

 

[Eagle]

Man, Sakurai just needs to add geno, Isaac, skull kid and bandana dee that would definitely satisfy the entire smash fanbase in one way or another

That would honestly be a dream to me. Isaac, Skull Kid, Geno (and BK of course) have been my most wanteds since Brawl. It'd be like the sun, moon, and stars aligning. Since BK is my number 1 I'd still be selfish and say it ain't complete but I mean I love how Sakurai is making his presumably last Smash 100% for the fans now either way.

 

[Tetiro]

That would honestly be a dream to me. Isaac, Skull Kid, Geno (and BK of course) have been my most wanteds since Brawl. It'd be like the sun, moon, and stars aligning. Since BK is my number 1 I'd still be selfish and say it ain't complete but I mean I love how Sakurai is making his presumably last Smash 100% for the fans now either way.

Even though he already said he plans to do another if the demand if there.

We don't deserve Sakurai and all his work (and the rest of the team too)

 

[JaidynReiman]

We have 71 fighters including echoes

With Isabelle and Shadow being heavily hinted as echoes we would have 73 fighters. Out of the big 4 atm one of them will make it. I am leaning more to Geno but with the "leak" let us just say Skull Kid

I have 0 confidence in Geno happening. I think his popularity is overblown, and if anything Sakurai saying he's wanted to include Geno since Brawl after he finalized the roster tells me Geno won't happen.


I don't know what to think about Skull Kid, but its starting to feel like Skull Kid is what got Loz to lose his contact.


I'm very confident Dixie will be an Echo as well, though nothing specifically hints at her. Just that she fills the criteria of being a good Echo Fighter candidate who is also very popular, similar to Chrom. The fact that Diddy is being hidden also helps Dixie a lot.

 

[?!?!?!]

That would honestly be a dream to me. Isaac, Skull Kid, Geno (and BK of course) have been my most wanteds since Brawl. It'd be like the sun, moon, and stars aligning. Since BK is my number 1 I'd still be selfish and say it ain't complete but I mean I love how Sakurai is making his presumably last Smash 100% for the fans now either way.

Yeah, I know there would still be some characters like BK and some others that people would also want, but I feel like if these 4 were added I'm sure the vast majority of the fanbase would be like "ok maybe I didn't get my favorite character but some of these are really cool so I'm okay with it"

 

[Pwnapplez]

That would honestly be a dream to me. Isaac, Skull Kid, Geno (and BK of course) have been my most wanteds since Brawl. It'd be like the sun, moon, and stars aligning. Since BK is my number 1 I'd still be selfish and say it ain't complete but I mean I love how Sakurai is making his presumably last Smash 100% for the fans now either way.

That would legit make the community happy.

We have 3 first party characters that could make it, along with 1 3rd party.

Banjo could be a selling DLC point.

 

[Frosty Pops]

Wii U Smash honestly sublines.

Mega Man- Bustin his a** to get in here.
Villager- Where is he pulling all this crap from?!?!
Wii Fit Trainer- cause nintendo thinks we are all fat.
Rosalina- Here to make peach jealous.
Little Mac- wishes he was a Big Mac.
Charizard- Escaped from pokemon trainer.
Geninja- The water bender.
Palutena- Got tired of sitting on her throne.
Shulk- Can see the future...his manado artes will be useful in the next game!
Robin- Because we dont have enough Fire Emblem yet!
Lucina- You thought we were kidding didn't you?
Duck Hunt- Cause nobody asked for it.
Bowser Jr.- Peaches secret child?
Pac Man- Eating Kirby's leftovers.
Dark Pit- Just a pit costume made into a character.
Ryu- His fireballs put Mario to shame.
Cloud- Wanted his sword to be bigger than Ikes.
Bayonetta- No one can stop her!!

EDIT: Corrin- Oh yeah have another FE character, with the most poke for your buck!

 

[Eagle]

That would legit make the community happy.

We have 3 first party characters that could make it, along with 1 3rd party.

Banjo could be a selling DLC point.

I think it's interesting to consider that whomever is made DLC is likely to have a more different moveset than if they were in the basegame. When they're DLC they get more solo attention. I honestly don't think that if Bayo/Cloud were in the basegame they'd have the exact same moveset as they do. I think it would be much simpler.

So if Isaac were made DLC I think he'd be fantastic, but I don't imagine he's a good idea for DLC compared to other bigger names.

Spoiler

Plus, he'd probably be top tier and everyone would play them so maybe it's best to keep him simple and in the base game...

 

[Pwnapplez]

I think it's interesting to consider that whomever is made DLC is likely to have a more different moveset than if they were in the basegame. When they're DLC they get more solo attention. I honestly don't think that if Bayo/Cloud were in the basegame they'd have the exact same moveset as they do. I think it would be much simpler.

So if Isaac were made DLC I think he'd be fantastic, but I don't imagine he's a good idea for DLC compared to other bigger names.

Spoiler

Plus, he'd probably be top tier and everyone would play them so maybe it's best to keep him simple and in the base game...

True, but I mean who is left, who would be DLC? I can see Echoes, but for big named first party? Maybe the new xenoblade guy? Arms? Nothing that would tremendously sell

 

[alguidrag]

I think BK would be better as DLC, or as a last minute reveal of the main rooster... like revealed in latter november

 

[Eagle]

True, but I mean who is left, who would be DLC? I can see Echoes, but for big named first party? Maybe the new xenoblade guy? Arms? Nothing that would tremendously sell

Banjo Kazooie I think. Besides that, I don't know.

 

[?!?!?!]

On one hand, adding these characters would really satisfy most of the fanbase. On the other, I just don't know if we can realistically expect 4 or 5 brand new characters with completely new movesets at this point...if we knew how long it takes to make one character we could probably estimate but Idk

It's better not to expect too much

 

[SonicLink125]

Wii U Smash honestly sublines.

Mega Man- Bustin his a** to get in here.
Villager- Where is he pulling all this crap from?!?!
Wii Fit Trainer- cause nintendo thinks we are all fat.
Rosalina- Here to make peach jealous.
Little Mac- wishes he was a Big Mac.
Charizard- Escaped from pokemon trainer.
Geninja- The water bender.
Palutena- Got tired of sitting on her throne.
Shulk- Can see the future...his manado artes will be useful in the next game!
Robin- Because we dont have enough Fire Emblem yet!
Lucina- You thought we were kidding didn't you?
Duck Hunt- Cause nobody asked for it.
Bowser Jr.- Peaches secret child?
Pac Man- Eating Kirby's leftovers.
Dark Pit- Just a pit costume made into a character.
Ryu- His fireballs put Mario to shame.
Cloud- Wanted his sword to be bigger than Ikes.
Bayonetta- No one can stop her!!

You forgot Corrin. Or was that intentional? lol
Otherwise, these are hilarious!

 

[KMDP]

Had to catch up with all the pages, I've got to say it feels like a full time gig. Not to mention everyone has great information to bring to the table.

I, for one, feel that Isaac is going to happen this time around. The difference in Ultimate rather than in Sm4sh or even Brawl is that there is an engine to run on this time around for some decent fuel for conjecture. In the previous iterations of the Smash games, if you take a look at the newcomers, you could definitely see trends appearing and there were too many spots for characters that needed to be filled. How could Isaac contend against Diddy Kong and Wario in Brawl? or the recency and relevance push clearly set in place for Sm4sh? Not to mention... there was nothing really pointing towards Isaac being noticeable other than an AT... an AT that ultimately got snatched away like our hearts.

This time, all of that is out of the way. We know two things for certain which is the main things that lead me toward the Isaac conclusion. 'Everyone is here' and the Smash Ballot. A corollary is in the title of the game: 'Ultimate'. It's certainly appearing that that's the case... Over 900 songs, at least 103 stages, every playable character we've ever had. I'm also fully expecting that we'll get every game mode that smash has ever had (with maybe the exception of the board the platforms, race to the finish and target smash). Definitely All-Star mode, Event mode, Master and Crazy Orders and Home Run. You can't claim to be ultimate without that kind of thing going on, after all.

Now, put it all together in your mind while focusing on Isaac. Golden Sun is not an unsuccessful Nintendo franchise. To all of us here, you can't claim that everyone is here if Isaac isn't in here in the first place. After all, it's not as if Isaac is a flavor of the month popularity pick. Isaac as a character choice goes way back - even to the post Melee days. Yes, perhaps Brawl was too early, but he was definitely in lists even back then. Never really falling out of a top 10 in all-time perspective. For the Smash community, this list as I've noticed it, particularly between post-Brawl until now, has basically looked like Mewtwo, Roy, Wolf, Ridley, K. Rool, Isaac, Geno in no particular order. Most of the other characters popularity tend to fluctuate wildly either being a flavor-of-the-month, recency or another similar factor. (Please note that I am not attempting to bash any other character in saying this, simply generalizing)

Most of these characters have now been realized in this latest game. Everyone except Isaac and Geno. I'll leave Geno aside to focus on Isaac. He's been in the game before and he's 1st party. We know the ballot matters in Ultimate and at the time the ballot was taken; while we've never been given specific numbers, Isaac was definitely not low. Something interesting to note about Isaac is how much he dominates specific character polling. In just about any poll where you can choose one and only one character, many other characters fade away leaving Isaac pretty close to the top. I believe that Dojo Exit poll 100%. Even if the numbers are bad, the statistics pooled together over a larger population are not going to fluctuate too wildly.

I never had hope like this before because these people were never selected for this specific dodgeball team before. The people being the 'Irrelevant Group' and the dodgeball team being a smash game. I fully expect both Isaac and Geno (unless something goes horribly wrong with the copyrights) because other than the Inklings, the only characters being chosen are from the 'Irrelevant Group'. If Isaac is passed over again it just wouldn't make sense anymore. It would be like asking you to pick 5 names out of a hat that had 5 names in it.

It's interesting you say this, because I had a similar thought as I was going to bed last night.

Something people tend to not consider in Smash Speculation is the direction that Smash is taking with character picks.

What do I mean by this? Well...

There are seven types of character that are chosen for Smash games.

Obvious Picks​

These are the characters who should be in the game. It's mostly made up of classical main characters.​

(after Melee)​

​

Sensible Picks​

These are the character who you say: "Yeah, with [x] in, this makes sense". After the Obvious ones are picked, these become the no-brainers.​

(in Melee)()​

&​

Contemporary Picks​

Characters picked mainly because they are recent rather than any kind of staying power, after a while, these have a chance to become Sensible Picks​

ultcorrin:​

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Sakurai's Pick​

This is the "Sakurai Weirdness" Category, made up of characters who might not have gotten in otherwise. Mostly, a lot of them require outside-the-box thinking to make work (generally the later ones). These are also the fabled "Retro Reps".​

&(&)(in Brawl)​

(because the fans were too afraid to ask for him)​

Developer Request​

Sometimes, characters are specifically requested by other developers, and sometimes Sakurai listens.​

​

“Characters of Convenience”​

These are character who just happen to fit a pre-existing mold, they probably wouldn't have gotten in without it.​

, all clones ()​

Fan Demand​

Characters who wouldn't have gotten in without the demand for them. Obviously, other characters have demand, but these guys are the ones who rely on it.​

(in S4)​

Smash 64 was made up mostly of obvious characters, with only Ness, Captain Falcon and Jigglypuff being the outliers (seriously, how many people didn't even know who Ness was before Smash Bros.?). Captain Falcon happened to fit the model made for the Dragon King tech demo, and Jigglypuff happened to be a moderately popular Pokémon who was similar in Body to Kirby.

Melee began filling in the blanks with Villains, the Princesses, and Characters who were going to be in 64 had it had a longer dev cycle (Marth and Mewtwo), the outliers are Ice Climbers and Mr. Game & Watch, both very old characters. When there was an increasing time crunch, a lot of clones were made.

Brawl continued filling in blanks with Wario (seriously, how many people said that Wario should have been in in Melee?). Pit was like Ice Climbers, an old character who hadn't been seen in years. Snake was specifically asked for by Kojima, and Sonic just made sense as Mario's biggest rival. Wolf was picked because he was convenient (Sakurai himself said that they had a choice between Wolf and Krystal, and picked Wolf because he was more similar to Fox and Falco and therefore took less work).

Smash 4's Newcomers were made up primarily of Contemporary Characters (Bowser Jr., Rosalina, Shulk, Wii Fit Trainer - who was also a weird pick), Villager should have been in Brawl (as many have said); Little Mac was chosen due to being popular in the West, with Mega Man being the obvious third party (how many people say Mega Man just feels like a Nintendo character?), PAC-MAN, like MG&W and R.O.B. has historical significance.

The name of Ultimate's game is Fan Demand, moreso than any other Smash Game so far, with all the obvious characters taken, it's only logical. Besides Splatoon, there weren't any new Nintendo IPs/characters that made waves before the project plan was done; ARMS came out after the plan was done.

Most of the Characters and Assists picked for Smash Ultimate were ones who did decently well on Fan Exit Polls, this is very noteworthy.

Is Isaac going to get in? If he's as requested as K. Rool like we think he is, probably. Anyone who thinks Isaac isn't requested is either delusional or incredibly biased.

...

Phew, this was a post-and-a-half, wasn't it?

 

[Tetiro]

On one hand, adding these characters would really satisfy most of the fanbase. On the other, I just don't know if we can realistically expect 4 or 5 brand new characters with completely new movesets at this point...if we knew how long it takes to make one character we could probably estimate but Idk

It's better not to expect too much

I can answer that (source - game developer/software developer)

When it comes to fighting games a lot of the character hard work comes from the animations and artwork/audio. Most of the collision, physics and attributes are already an engine and just require someone to change the settings for each character and test them. (as well as character gimmicks being coded)

Design work can be tedious but no doubt Sakurai already has that down to a fine art.

Regarding newcomers it should not take them too long. It just the rest of the game that eats time developer time.

So when Sakurai said Everyone Is Here that is what will take most of his time. So yes we can expect 3-4 new movesets but not many more after that. After that it becomes a strained development cycle

 

[Pwnapplez]

On one hand, adding these characters would really satisfy most of the fanbase. On the other, I just don't know if we can realistically expect 4 or 5 brand new characters with completely new movesets at this point...if we knew how long it takes to make one character we could probably estimate but Idk

It's better not to expect too much

You are right it's It's better not to expect too much but it's still good to be optimistic! You don't have to set your expectations super high but be optimistic looking at the evidence.

Isaac scored high in the ballot, Isaac AT has not been shown off, GS music was in Smash 4 so Nintendo did not bury the series under the rug, Isaac has been a highly requested fighter.

Is the screenshot mimicking the Camelot angle a stretch? Yeah, but look at the community booming again. Does Nintendo see the fans going crazy? Yeah, Sakurai says he sees so many requests.

The name of Ultimate's game is Fan Demand, moreso than any other Smash Game so far, with all the obvious characters taken, it's only logical. Besides Splatoon, there weren't any new Nintendo IPs/characters that made waves before the project plan was done; ARMS came out after the plan was done.

Most of the Characters and Assists picked for Smash Ultimate were ones who did decently well on Fan Exit Polls, this is very noteworthy.

Is Isaac going to get in? If he's as requested as K. Rool like we think he is, probably. Anyone who thinks Isaac isn't requested is either delusional or incredibly biased.

Amen, Anyone who thinks Isaac isn't requested is either delusional or incredibly biase.
What is being shown off is characters that did well in fan polls.

Isaac will be in ultimate one way or another.




AND
quote me on this,

If Isaac is a fighter for Smash Ultimate, I will get a tattoo of the Golden Sun logo from smash with the date that he got revealed. Don't have any tattos but I will make that my first.

 

[alguidrag]

I think we will have at least 2 more newcomers and a lot more echoes.



EDIT: and for what I have seem, most people beat in this too
I have seems some hoping for Geno and Skull Kid
Geno and Isaac
Isaac and Skull Kid
mainly that is the top 3 I'm Seeing for newcomers

 

[XenoWarriorX]

Yo yo yo. What's going on?

 

[KMDP]

Yo yo yo. What's going on?

Not much.

 

[alguidrag]

Yo yo yo. What's going on?

just the same thing as always before Sakurai's tweet

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Does anyone know where I can find one of those images that have a timeline of reveals for Smash 4? I'm pretty sure I saw one at one point.

 

[Billybae10K]

Got this sent to me by a user over on Discord. It's 100% fake since the fonts don't match up between the top and bottom tracks, with the bottom looking extremely squished, but I thought I'd share it here so we can dissect it together.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

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Got this sent to me by a user over on Discord. It's 100% fake since the fonts don't match up between the top and bottom tracks, with the bottom looking extremely squished, but I thought I'd share it here so we can dissect it together.

Jeez I got a shiver down my spine when I saw that.

 

[Pwnapplez]

You know, I am more excited for an Isaac amiibo more than anything else! That would be awesome to have!
I can't find it but someone had a mega post with all the smash poll results on it


However, look at reddit.

Besides Banjo, who was on top? Isaac, this was 3 years ago, we still have been super vocal!
No AT in site! Nintendo has to see the demand.

Sadly, the community is at each others throats, because let's say Geno or Skull Kid gets in, people will be happy or will be pissed.


There is HOPE for isaac, stay hopeful, till we get any news, we need to stay hopeful. Talk about things we would like to see! Stages etc etc! Keep the ball rolling. If you can draw, then draw! If you can write! Then write!

GS will get something in Smash.

 

[?!?!?!]

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Got this sent to me by a user over on Discord. It's 100% fake since the fonts don't match up between the top and bottom tracks, with the bottom looking extremely squished, but I thought I'd share it here so we can dissect it together.

I mean, I don't know what to think of this

Where would someone even get this screenshot from and how would they have access to enough info about the game to take a screenshot of a specific soundtrack from a specific series? It seems fishy to me

And yeah the font sizes are definitely different

 

[XenoWarriorX]

View attachment 157973

Got this sent to me by a user over on Discord. It's 100% fake since the fonts don't match up between the top and bottom tracks, with the bottom looking extremely squished, but I thought I'd share it here so we can dissect it together.

Naw, i don't buy it even for a split second.

I mean, I don't know what to think of this

Where would someone even get this screenshot from and how would they have access to enough info about the game to take a screenshot of a specific soundtrack from a specific series? It seems fishy to me

And yeah the font sizes are definitely different

And why is by LOZ? I thought it would be on top, wouldn't it?

You know, I am more excited for an Isaac amiibo more than anything else! That would be awesome to have!
I can't find it but someone had a mega post with all the smash poll results on it


However, look at reddit.

Besides Banjo, who was on top? Isaac, this was 3 years ago, we still have been super vocal!
No AT in site! Nintendo has to see the demand.
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Sadly, the community is at each others throats, because let's say Geno or Skull Kid gets in, people will be happy or will be pissed.


There is HOPE for isaac, stay hopeful, till we get any news, we need to stay hopeful. Talk about things we would like to see! Stages etc etc! Keep the ball rolling. If you can draw, then draw! If you can write! Then write!

GS will get something in Smash.

I don't know if those are accurate, right?

 

[Baddies are back]

It's sad that someone would fake a leak to say a character isn't getting in.

 

[?!?!?!]

You know, I am more excited for an Isaac amiibo more than anything else! That would be awesome to have!
I can't find it but someone had a mega post with all the smash poll results on it


However, look at reddit.

Besides Banjo, who was on top? Isaac, this was 3 years ago, we still have been super vocal!
No AT in site! Nintendo has to see the demand.
View attachment 157974


Sadly, the community is at each others throats, because let's say Geno or Skull Kid gets in, people will be happy or will be pissed.


There is HOPE for isaac, stay hopeful, till we get any news, we need to stay hopeful. Talk about things we would like to see! Stages etc etc! Keep the ball rolling. If you can draw, then draw! If you can write! Then write!

GS will get something in Smash.

Reckless wii mote safety man with 226 votes LOOOL sorry guys but I think I have a new favorite character

 

[Pwnapplez]

Skull Kid might be in,

https://www.instagram.com/p/BmgZuxcAB01/?hl=en&taken-by=nintendouk

out of the blue? Hmm

Hints everywhere

 

[Sabrewulf238]

View attachment 157973

Got this sent to me by a user over on Discord. It's 100% fake since the fonts don't match up between the top and bottom tracks, with the bottom looking extremely squished, but I thought I'd share it here so we can dissect it together.

Where would this come from anyway? It doesn't look like anything we saw in "My Music" in the direct.

It looks like the page on the official website with the list of songs and they only post new music there right?

Unless there's a plan to upload every single song at some point....and if they did that they' probably order them by series. (or chronologically)

Edit: Not to mention, on the music page on the official Smash website the Main Theme for Zelda is the one listed at the bottom. Making it look like someone just edited the Golden Sun song in under it.

 

[Baddies are back]

Where would this come from anyway? It doesn't look like anything we saw in "My Music" in the direct.

It looks like the page on the official website with the list of songs and they only post new music there right?

Unless there's a plan to upload every single song at some point....and if they did that they' probably order them by series. (or chronologically)

That's why it's definitely fake

 

[N3ON]

So if you don't mind my asking, are you an old school RPG fanatic? I only ask because you're frontlining this thread and you mained Cloud in Smash 4. If so, much respect sister, FF7 is my all time favorite game by a landslide, his reveal is the most disbelief I've ever experienced. You're the same age as me, the perfect age to enjoy the classics.

Well we came up during the golden age of RPGs, so it would've been hard to avoid them forever. I've played a decent amount, mostly from fourth, fifth, and sixth gens, but fanatic might be a bit of an oversell. I was a bit young to fully appreciate the SNES RPGs, most the ones I've played were done so years later, and my brother kept the PS1 in his room, so my time with it was limited and guarded, haha. I played a bevy of genres back then.

I do have a special place in my heart for some select RPGs though, like FF7 or GS1. Believe me, the Cloud trailer might've been the most I ever disbelieved something happening before my eyes. Super Mario RPG may be my favourite SNES game, but for some reason I don't have that same attachment to Geno. He's cool and I'd be psyched to see him, don't get me wrong, but like... he's not the star of that game, he's just a useful, well-designed party member... so I guess he doesn't mean as much to me as he does his staunch supporters. Some of whom probably even haven't played his game tbh lol.

But I did connect more with Isaac and Cloud and the like, they're more intrinsically tied to my memories of my time with those games. Could also be that I didn't play SMRPG til later on, as it wasn't available in my region growing up.

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Got this sent to me by a user over on Discord. It's 100% fake since the fonts don't match up between the top and bottom tracks, with the bottom looking extremely squished, but I thought I'd share it here so we can dissect it together.

...why would they reuse the track we've had since Brawl? The site isn't going to feature some old piece of music. Obv they focus on the new arrangements.