Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

[Bassoonist]

They just revived Advance Wars. Holy crap.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Although I feel sad about no Golden Sun.

It does give me some hope that they've brought Advance Wars back.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Ura is going to be happy about this. Advance Wars is no longer the new Mother 3.

 

[THE 6r]

Seeing Advance Wars brought a smile to my face.

Perhaps there is still hope.

 

[Ura]

Ura is going to be happy about this. Advance Wars is no longer the new Mother 3.

LMAO you bet!

 

[SorrowOfAcheron]

Yeah, this is great news for anyone who's a fan of dormant series. Maybe not this year, but I'm still gonna be hoping for something GS-related.

 

[Kisae]

If they bring Advance Wars back ( i have to play them and perfect occasion) there is NO excuses for not bringing back Golden Sun

 

[Sabrewulf238]

If they bring Advance Wars back ( i have to play them and perfect occasion) there is NO excuses for not bringing back Golden Sun

I guess an argument could be made that Intelligent Systems are a bigger company so they can work on more than one game at once.

but honestly if I was Nintendo I'd be prodding Camelot or offering some kind of assistance to bring Golden Sun back.

 

[Kisae]

I guess an argument could be made that Intelligent Systems are a bigger company so they can work on more than one game at once.

but honestly if I was Nintendo I'd be prodding Camelot or offering some kind of assistance to bring Golden Sun back.

Yeah sure, but i mean Wario Ware is back too and Adwance Wars since how many years? (true question i don't know at all the franchise) with this they seem to FINALLY listen the fans so i hope they have seen our demand for Golden Sun

 

[Guynamednelson]

I guess an argument could be made that Intelligent Systems are a bigger company so they can work on more than one game at once.

but honestly if I was Nintendo I'd be prodding Camelot or offering some kind of assistance to bring Golden Sun back.

At the same time I can't imagine that Mario Golf DLC was the most expensive thing to produce. They're clearly reusing Mario Odyssey assets.

 

[Xenigma]

I was literally cheering when the Advance Wars trailer started. Great news both as a Wars fan and as someone hoping for a Golden Sun revival. Going to make a point of pre-ordering tonight to put my money where my mouth is.

 

[ZelDan]

not surprised to see the Isaac thread in good spirits now lol.

I did play the first Advanced Wars game on the Wii U VC. I never beat it though. Might give the series another chance.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

If Advance Wars could get brought back from the dead after so many years, that gives a lot of hope for Golden Sun as a fellow GBA RPG!

 

[GoodGrief741]

Advance Wars came back, in a big way. But there was also Fatal Frame, WarioWare, Cruis'n, even 2D Metroid. They're listening to fan demand, clearly, otherwise they wouldn't have considered those E3 worthy.

This is the biggest ray of hope we got since Mario Golf was announced. If I know this fanbase, and I think I do, this will be enough to power us for a long time. I genuinely believe that, in some shape or form, we're next.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Cruis'n

To be fair Cruis'n Blast was already in arcades for a few years. And it sucks. Hopefully the Switch version at least has the proper amount of tracks for a Cruis'n game.

 

[Nazyrus]

Good day indeedy Never lose hope GS fans, we got this! GS WILL return one day. Golf and Tennis 1 game each per console quota has been filled, Camelot has nothing else to work on but GS for the rest of the switch cycle, which still has many years ahead. Never give up guys. Gameboy Advance IPs appreciation was shown today.

 

[Kalaam]

Advance wars, warioware and metroid basically confirm GBA resurgence (that and the GBA related tweet from nintendo).
Golden Sun is coming back, timing was sadly off (but well, Isaac could be in smash to compensate for the lack of a game for the 20 years )


Also yeah, people weirdly don't complain about fighting game characters with input based combos/attacks. We have 4 of those now.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

If Advance Wars ends up being successful, there will be a whole new generation introduced to the IP as well as new AW memes.

 

[FlawedAI]

Incredibly excited to see Advance Wars back! I'll definitely be picking up the game when it releases. Also notice how they included the first and second Advance Wars games? I think this is a pretty good sign for us Golden Sun fans.

 

[ZelDan]

I posted this in the E3 2021 discussion thread but will post it here too:

WayForward is Making Advance Wars 1+2 Re-Boot Camp

As part of the E3 2021 Nintendo Treehouse Live stream, the WayForward Advance Wars 1+2 Re-Boot Camp missions against Olaf and Eagle appeared.

www.siliconera.com

If they were willing to let another company touch Advanced Wars, I wonder if they'd allow the same for Golden Sun?

 

[Guynamednelson]

I posted this in the E3 2021 discussion thread but will post it here too:

WayForward is Making Advance Wars 1+2 Re-Boot Camp

As part of the E3 2021 Nintendo Treehouse Live stream, the WayForward Advance Wars 1+2 Re-Boot Camp missions against Olaf and Eagle appeared.

www.siliconera.com

If they were willing to let another company touch Advanced Wars, I wonder if they'd allow the same for Golden Sun?

I wish it was the company that did Wargoove, Chucklefish.

 

[Kalaam]

I posted this in the E3 2021 discussion thread but will post it here too:

WayForward is Making Advance Wars 1+2 Re-Boot Camp

As part of the E3 2021 Nintendo Treehouse Live stream, the WayForward Advance Wars 1+2 Re-Boot Camp missions against Olaf and Eagle appeared.

www.siliconera.com

If they were willing to let another company touch Advanced Wars, I wonder if they'd allow the same for Golden Sun?

Difference is: Camelot is available to work on GS.
IS is probably working on the next FE stuff.

 

[Staarih]

I posted this in the E3 2021 discussion thread but will post it here too:

WayForward is Making Advance Wars 1+2 Re-Boot Camp

As part of the E3 2021 Nintendo Treehouse Live stream, the WayForward Advance Wars 1+2 Re-Boot Camp missions against Olaf and Eagle appeared.

www.siliconera.com

If they were willing to let another company touch Advanced Wars, I wonder if they'd allow the same for Golden Sun?

I'd personally very much prefer Camelot themselves to develop a new Golden Sun or remakes, it's their creation and precious child after all.

though it's nice to see Nintendo being open to give some of their (lesser) IP's to the hands of different developers.

 

[ZelDan]

Difference is: Camelot is available to work on GS.
IS is probably working on the next FE stuff.

Isn't Intelligent Systems bigger than Camelot though?

That and Camelot I don't think is completely done with Mario Golf since the game will get free updates.

 

[pofehof]

I guess an argument could be made that Intelligent Systems are a bigger company so they can work on more than one game at once.

It seems that the Advance Wars remake is actually made by Wayforward.

With Mario Golf getting free updates as well, it really makes sense that it basically took three years for Camelot to work on this game. They seem to have gone above and beyond for the Golf Adventure portion, making it drastically different from previous Mario Golf RPG entries. Guess this could translate well into a potential Golden Sun game.

 

[SirCamp]

I'd personally very much prefer Camelot themselves to develop a new Golden Sun or remakes, it's their creation and precious child after all.

though it's nice to see Nintendo being open to give some of their (lesser) IP's to the hands of different developers.

Does it really matter that much as long as the Takahashi bros are involved?

 

[Xenigma]

Also yeah, people weirdly don't complain about fighting game characters with input based combos/attacks. We have 4 of those now.

I mean, coming from the more traditional fighting game community, these crossovers with the major fighting game franchises are a big deal. My local FGC group is exploding with excitement over Kazuya, just as they did for Terry in FP1, and given Bandai Namco's involvement with Ultimate, Tekken arguably deserved the spot more than most. I'm personally very happy to Kazuya's inclusion, even if I personally would have preferred Jin or Heihachi.

 

[FlawedAI]

Isn't Intelligent Systems bigger than Camelot though?

That and Camelot I don't think is completely done with Mario Golf since the game will get free updates.

All the Mario Tennis post-game stuff was done by Nintendo's internal team, not Camelot. Once Mario Golf goes gold, Camelot is free to work on their next game. However, I don't think assistance is out of the question and it may be Grezzo doing it. I believe there was a job listing for a "stylish fantasy" or something along those lines for Grezzo, which could be applied to Golden Sun.

EDIT: My bad, Grezzo did the Miitopia port. I highly doubt they've assisted with GS if it is in development. Whoops!

 

[Isaac: Venus Adept]

That Advance Wars announcement was super exciting. If Nintendo is willing to greenlight remakes for Famicom Detective Club and Advance Wars, a Golden Sun game isn't too far fetched at all. Just got to keep pushing for it to return like with the upcoming 20th anniversary event =)

 

[SirCamp]

This just adds fuel to my wild (and entirely untethered to reality) speculation that Monolith Soft’s new game is in fact Golden Sun. Mostly because I want it to be true lmao

In seriousness though, I don’t see why another studio couldn’t work on it if Camelot is otherwise occupied. Just involve the creative leads in the project and you should be Golden right?

 

[Sentinel07]

Overall, I liked that presentation.

My only slamdunk predictions were Smash and BotW2 and both of those came true. SMT 5 looks awesome, and Metroid Dread pretty much stole the show.

I'm slightly bummed at nothing for HAL's next Kirby or Monolith's new game, but can't win them all I suppose. :D

But yeah, if stuff like Famicom Detective and Advance Wars can get revivals of all things, then Golden Sun, a franchise that performed better than both of those franchises, should be in the discussion.

 

[TheSpaceKing12]

Well, it appears that smash may be nearing its end. But the hype train doesn't end after this advanced wars remake proved that nintendomdoes in fact remember gba. Meaning we have a shot yet. Heck the advanced wars remake is in the same format we`d want ours to be in lol. So even if we lost the smash battle we will win the golden sun war. Which is what I always considered key personally.

Or I could be totally wrong, sakurai is just handing the game off to unnamed nintendo employee X, and smash ultimate is going into volume 3. But im content myself after pyra. I got one character I actually wanted. So I can rest.

 

[Kalaam]

I'd like to point out that for Aces, the updates were done internally by Nintendo, Camelot was probably already working on Super Rush at that point.
So the updates to Golf will likely involve Camelot very little. They most likely are already on their next game.

 

[SonicLink125]

Isaac when he sees Kazuya tossing the other fighters off the cliff from a distance. (Isaac can take him on, right?)
#SmashBros #GoldenSun pic.twitter.com/6h394lWniH

— SonicLink125 ☀️ (@SonicLink125) June 16, 2021

Isaac would rather use his Psynergy Hands to do what Kazuya does instead. lmao

I'd like to point out that for Aces, the updates were done internally by Nintendo, Camelot was probably already working on Super Rush at that point.
So the updates to Golf will likely involve Camelot very little. They most likely are already on their next game.

This right here! Aces finished development in Dec 2017 and was given to Nintendo to polish it up and make updates/DLC for it. Plus, Golf has been finished for awhile now. There is a great chance that Camelot has been working on GS on the side as their staff usually isn't all 100% there working on one game. Aces proves this when in its credits, there were staff members missing.
Also to add, a lot of the stuff we've seen in Golf looks like it can easily be integrated and touched on for GS too. You can't tell me that the "Fire Gem" doesn't look like the Mars Star.

 

[Xenigma]

Genuine curiosity: now that we're down to our last character in Ultimate, does anyone here think it will be Isaac? Unfortunately any optimism I had earlier in FP2 is long gone, but with how much this last Direct felt like a revival of Gamecube/GBA-era Nintendo, it's also an oddly hopeful moment for fans of those systems.

 

[ZelDan]

Genuine curiosity: now that we're down to our last character in Ultimate, does anyone here think it will be Isaac? Unfortunately any optimism I had earlier in FP2 is long gone, but with how much this last Direct felt like a revival of Gamecube/GBA-era Nintendo, it's also an oddly hopeful moment for fans of those systems.

Eh, maybe?

He certainly isn't likely, but then I don't think any character is "likely" at this point anyways, so meh.

That said, while he might not be likely and may have things that go against him, As long as ATs are on the table, I think Isaac is too.

 

[FlawedAI]

Genuine curiosity: now that we're down to our last character in Ultimate, does anyone here think it will be Isaac? Unfortunately any optimism I had earlier in FP2 is long gone, but with how much this last Direct felt like a revival of Gamecube/GBA-era Nintendo, it's also an oddly hopeful moment for fans of those systems.

Actually, yeah, I do. Smash traditionally doesn't end on a bang (Incineorar base game, Byleth FP1) and while us here would be overjoyed, the general populace wouldn't consider Isaac a "bang". I don't think Ultimate will get another big third-party (or any third-party after Kazuya) and for me the most likely characters left are Waluigi and Isaac. I feel like Waluigi is a bit more likely, but his lack of potential Fighter Pass content hurts him. With Lloyd presumably out of the picture (Bamco spot taken by Kazuya, it's possible we see Lloyd's costume return with him) Isaac becomes the foremost JRPG character left and the fact that he's first-party and thus doesn't require any licensing fees helps him out.

So while I don't think Isaac is the most likely, I think he's certainly in the running.

 

[Kalaam]

Isaac would also fit the "GBA revival" them of the last direct, compensating for GS not being back this year.
That's only speculation ofc.
We could get other characters like a pokemon, Andy could appear, and probably a lot of others we aren't considering.

 

[ZelDan]

Isaac would also fit the "GBA revival" them of the last direct, compensating for GS not being back this year.
That's only speculation ofc.
We could get other characters like a pokemon, Andy could appear, and probably a lot of others we aren't considering.

When we thought of a sun-related franchise for the GBA, we thought they'd add Isaac from Golden Sun

Little did we know they'd add a fighter pack for this:

 

[Kalaam]

Maybe, didn't Sakurai talked about Boktai before ?