Official Summer of Smash: Week #4 - CEO, Karisuma 8, Xanadu

[Minordeth]

I'm not gonna lie, Sheik vs Mewtwo doesn't look particularly fun for Sheik - even on paper. Void is gonna have to pull out some major tricks...


Like switching to Fox?!

 

[Djent]

Prediction: ZeRo will not make top 4 at this point.

Future Sight

 

[Minordeth]

Okay Void, channel Larry. You have his permission. Fox's Uair is almost tailor made for punishing Mewtwos bizarre double jump pathing.

 

[sedrf]

I think m2 might beat sheik

 

[Nu~]

ZeRo is taking this loss hard rn.

As for me? Estatic that we can move on from the "ZeRo vs Nairo" era

 

[Shady Shaymin]

Mewtwo looks like everything Sheik hates. Kills earlier and easier, hard to gimp, can air dodge out of strings, and is actually faster on the ground and can contest her aerials with his fast, meaty fair.

Can you imagine hearing this 4 months ago?

 

[thehard]

I'm starting to realize that Mewtwo having an early kill throw on top of his buffs is just a BIT silly lol

Crazy sets leading up to top 8 man.

 

[Kon]

I wonder if Dabuz went back to Rosalina thinking Abadango was going Mewtwo? Either way, Dabuz is playing good. For a moment things seemed bleak once the set started with a swift ladder to death, but he brought it back so well.

Abadango looked sorta lost against Olimar. It was an interesting pick since Dabuz seemed to focus completely on shutting down Abadango's ground game.

I think Dabuz switched because of the stage. Rosalina can get early kills on Dreamland64 and I think Rosa is scarier on Dreamland64 than Olimar as long as Rosalina isn't taken to the blastzone with MK's elevator.

 

[Shady Shaymin]

If mewtwo weighed a bit more than a feather I think he might be broken. The scary thing about Mewtwo is that that wasn't even his final form. Aba messed up edge cancels plenty of times, as well as his footstool kill confirms. That set would have been even more slaughter if Aba didn't mess up tech.

 

[-Tornado-]

Anti vs. Mr. R
Zinoto vs. Dabuz
Larry vs. Abadango
False vs. Hyuga
Taking all bets people, taking all bets
(I actually want Larry or Abadango to win)

 

[TDK]

Where is top 8?

 

[-Tornado-]

Where is top 8?

https://twitter.com/VGBC_GimR/status/747135719219535872

 

[Y2Kay]

You know what the funniest thing about Abadango's Mewtwo?

He has barely tapped into all of Mewtwo's tech.

I'm serious. Ledge cancels, phasing, and DJ cancel disable out of Nair are the only advance Mewtwo tech he ever uses, he's mainly riding on his player skill to win.

Now imagine if he did?

 

[Shady Shaymin]

PREDICTIONS
Anti>Mr. R
Dabuz>Zinoto
Aba>Larry (very bold ik)
False>Hyuga

 

[~ Gheb ~]

PREDICTIONS
Anti>Mr. R
Dabuz>Zinoto
Aba>Larry (very bold ik)
False>Hyuga

My predictions are literally the exact opposite of yours :3

 

[Nu~]

My predictions are literally the exact opposite of yours :3

Thought I was the only one who predicts Zinoto over Dabuz

 

[Shady Shaymin]

~ Gheb ~ , best of luck, may the best prophet win

 

[Yonder]

So i can't see any of these since i am at work, but Zero got mulched by Larry, and Aba is mulching/mulched Void again?

Also I don't think Zero is #1 atm either. Like the #1 chars the spot for this game, it's a toss up.

This meta is so fun to watch scatter into inconsistent pieces like a frag grenade

 

[ShadowGuy1]

The question is, who is the best at this point. Our previous contenders,Nairo and Ally, both did not make it to Sunday. I still think it could be Zero, but if not, I can see people leaning towards Dabuz.

 

[Asdioh]

False is really good, but I don't see him making it any further in bracket. I'm surprised he got this far, when so many "better" players got out long ago. Think hyuga wins this one.

I've barely seen zinoto play, but I've known for a while that he's ridiculously good. Still think dabuz will win though.

Other matches are harder to say.. I can see mr r winning, he seems more consistent. Aba vs larry is super hard to decide, I don't know how well larry does against mewtwo.

 

[FeelMeUp]

Is Mr. R the only player that doesn't have random/bad/embarrassing losses now?

 

[zzmorg82]

I know this is so early, but I still feel like ZeRo is #1 at the moment. Getting put into loser's early on in the tournament and fighting all the way to 9th is still an accomplishment, not to mention he placed higher than the other top players like Ally and Nairo. If he isn't top #1 anymore, than who is? I haven't seen the type of consistency from the other top players as much as I see from ZeRo.

If anything, the discussion of who's #1 can really begin brewing after EVO 2016.

 

[soniczx123]

You know what the funniest thing about Abadango's Mewtwo?

He has barely tapped into all of Mewtwo's tech.

I'm serious. Ledge cancels, phasing, and DJ cancel disable out of Nair are the only advance Mewtwo tech he ever uses, he's mainly riding on his player skill to win.

Now imagine if he did?

What more amazing options does this already powerful character possess?

 

[Goombo]

Is Mr. R the only player that doesn't have random/bad/embarrassing losses now?

His worst losses should be DKWill/MVD/Pink Fresh with prepatch Bayo if I'm not mistaken so yes. I think he could have the best claim for #1 at the moment but Dabuz overcoming Cloud and MK in recent time makes me question this again already.

 

[ShadowGuy1]

Is Mr. R the only player that doesn't have random/bad/embarrassing losses now?

I think Dabuz is still safe from that iirc.

Also, quick predictions!

Anti > Mr.R
Dabuz>Zinoto
Larry > Abadango
Hyuga > False

Also something to note, besides Anti's millions of secondaries, we only have 1 repeat of a character, adn that is between False and Mr.R with Shiek. ALSO NO CLOUD HAH TOLD YOU HE AINT BROKEN

 

[Fenny]

I know this is so early, but I still feel like ZeRo is #1 at the moment. Getting put into loser's early on in the tournament and fighting all the way to 9th is still an accomplishment, not to mention he placed higher than the other top players like Ally and Nairo. If he isn't top #1 anymore, than who is? I haven't seen the type of consistency from the other top players as much as I see from ZeRo.

If anything, the discussion of who's #1 can really begin brewing after EVO 2016.

The thing is, that consistency came before his break. And as we've seen over the past few months, we can't really apply that to him as he is now.

Post-break and you can see him struggle to get back to that level because the rate at which everyone was improving was underestimated until he left the scene. The placement of players is fluctuating as wildly as the metagame is, and right now ZeRo can't keep up as much as he wants to. While OVERALL he might be #1, for the time being we can't call him #1 CURRENTLY, because he simply hasn't shown it. Larry reading him like a history professor today is a prime example of that.

 

[Djent]

Everyone has a few "bad" losses, Zero's are the fewest in number and least severe, he's still the best until he loses more or someone else can win consistently.

 

[ShadowGuy1]

Everyone has a few "bad" losses, Zero's are the fewest in number and least severe, he's still the best until he loses more or someone else can win consistently.

I still agree taht Zero is the best player, but I think Mr.R and Dabuz have less severe losses.

 

[Djent]

Dabuz and Mr.R have both finished outside of top 8 at least once, and below 2nd numerous times. So I disagree. I'm guessing you're thinking in terms of who they've lost to, but even then they lost to people like MVD and Fatality.

 

[Charoite]

i dont think any player has the right to be called the No. 1 we should wait until smash con to make these assumptions.

 

[Y2Kay]

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Aba has a great sense of humor I see ~

 

[ShadowGuy1]

Dabuz and Mr.R have both finished outside of top 8 at least once, and below 2nd numerous times. So I disagree. I'm guessing you're thinking in terms of who they've lost to, but even then they lost to people like MVD and Fatality.

So you're saying those two are worse than Seagull Joe and Prince Ramen? I feel like our of those 3, Zero has lost to the worser players(certainly not saying Ramen and Seagull are bad they are amazing players)however MVD and Farality are better.

 

[Das Koopa]

Mr. R getting blown up by ANTi

 

[sedrf]

anti slaughtered mr r

 

[Wintermelon43]

Anti 3-0ed Mr. R

Anti is so good at the Sheik matchup, wow.

 

[-Tornado-]

Anti takes it 3-0

 

[TDK]

Sheik is still top 3, right guys?

 

[Davis-Lightheart]

Is Mr. R the only player that doesn't have random/bad/embarrassing losses now?

Lots of predictions coming true today.

 

[BlazGreen]

Well that was convincing.

 

[Y2Kay]

What more amazing options does this already powerful character possess?

Using teleport ledge cancel to ledge trump, using down throw to platform lock, pivot tilts, phasing with aerials BESIDES Fair (did you know Mewtwo can literally use every move beside Dair and Disable out of SHAD?), fully charged shadow balls, Disable mix ups, etc.

There is more than that but I am lazy.

Sheik is still top 3, right guys?

Yes she is.