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Official Summer of Smash: Week #4 - CEO, Karisuma 8, Xanadu

Das Koopa

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Dabuz > Zinoto
Larry Lurr > Abadango
Hyuga > False

imo
 

Kofu

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This is never funny.
Especially when done sarcastically when talking about a top 2 Mario in one of his best MUs.
Can you guys please stop doing it lol.
But what if she isn't?

I think she is. But if she isn't, what does it matter? Sheik is a top tier contender no matter her exact tier placing.
 

BunbUn129

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On Luma's up air, I find it quite impressive how Dabuz managed to cheese MK of all characters with the move. Theory-wise, one of the lesser reasons the MU is garbage for Rosa is that MK is naturally a difficult character to juggle, because while he is a fast-faller with mediocre air speed, he has multiple jumps and along with Jigglypuff he's the only multi-jumper whose aerial mobility isn't ****-tier. Abadango shouldn't have been getting juggled like that.

On a more personal note, I find Abadango's MK performance depressing not because of how sub-optimal his play was, but rather because it was the only notable usage of MK in the tournament. I love this tournament, but the one thing that saddens me is that none of the top-level players who still use (read: not main) MK were in attendance. Amidst all the upsets that happened at CEO, MK isn't off to a good start this summer. :(
 

YerTheBestAROUND

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What I'm noticing from Zinoto's Diddy vs Rosa is that when he wants to get past Luma and hit or pressure Rosa, he doesn't always try to get rid of Luma but goes just above Luma with either Monkey Flip or banana. Dabuz has switched off Rosa in favor of Olimar now but I'd be interested to see if Dabuz notices and tries to use Luma to utilt the Monkey flips.

EDIT: Now that Dabuz has switched to Olimar I'm noticing that Zinoto is trying to Monkey Flip through Pikmin tosses so Dabuz has been using fsmashes instead. Dabuz takes it but it'll be interesting to see how Zinoto does in losers. Maybe they'll run into each other again.
 
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Minordeth

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I love watching Dabuz play. His neutral is just ridiculous, and he is going for Ally-esque reads with Olimar.
 

~ Gheb ~

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Olimar is such a clever counter-pick character. Punishes matchup inexperience super hard and catches almost everybody off-guard.

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Y2Kay

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Before you guys say it, Larry Lurr has the next best Mewtwo, Rich Brown, in his region.

:150:
 

Y2Kay

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Can't wait for the world to realize that Mewtwo doesn't lose to DK!

:150:
 

AnEventHorizon

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As far as data for Mewtwo vs Donkey Kong goes, we saw Mew^2 lose to DKWill at SBW4. . DKWill won 3-0 in Winner's finals, and 3-2 in Grand Finals against Mew^2.

Mew^2 triple 2 stocked Mew2King's Cloud in Winner's Semi's. M2K brought out his DK in loser's finals and lost 2-3. For reference, M2K used to play a lot of DK before Cloud, tended to be grab heavy, almost never used DK's specials, and came in 3rd at Pax Prime.

Now Larry's DK is 1-1 in games with Abadango's DK.

I'm entirely aware you can't make matchup ratio's just from results, but since I consider both DKWill and M2K to be better players overall than Mew^2, the closeness in sets may indicate it's more in Mewtwo's favor.
 
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Nobie

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That sudden realization when you remember that MKLeo is a Marth and Hyuga probably has a ton of experience.
 

Jexulus

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At this point, I'm satisfied with Mewtwo's and Abagando's performance. I think he's proved everything he needs to in terms of Mewtwo's capability. Even if he loses right now, I'm proud of the both of them.

Cheers, mate.
 
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