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Stryks presents: War of the clubs 2.0! UPDATE: 18/03/08

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Stryks

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*misses rey*

ok u got it odin, ill probably draw the comic today, tough i willsurely not have anything done this week, got a lot of stuff to do like HW... and smash fest (last one before brawl =D)

anyway yeah sorry for that guys, school comes 1st...
and colensteins location wins the internet...
 

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No, havent done it yet, I WAS planning on getting it done by sunday, but with HW and my parents going all im pissed off as hulk on me, I wont have time, so next week ill have it done...
 

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No, havent done it yet, I WAS planning on getting it done by sunday, but with HW and my parents going all im pissed off as hulk on me, I wont have time, so next week ill have it done...
Damm Stryks, and I though I had a jaked up spot when I had to do a test for two weeks in a row. XD

But take your time, you need no rush.... well in my option.
 

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well, that way you would literally be a killbeast, so that sounds good.
Well, I thought I wanted to be a Dark-Link-esq character, but that doesn't fit my personality at all. I like things that are more lighthearted, cartoony, and/or comedic. And MP Holy Grail is my favorite movie ever, so figured that a fluffy bunny from that movie that is "That rabbit's dynamite!" would be perfect.

Same here (well, not so much about Krystal, but I can understand those who are).
Well if you're including "understands those who are" then you can include me for Ridley.

i smell someone getting killed in the comic.
I wanna bite his neck!!!

I pent my Brawl fund on tickets to a My Chemical romance and Taking Back Sunday show at Madison Square Garden. :grin:

Better start saving again lol
Save fast.
 

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Looks like I'll be getting Brawl a little later than everyone else............. T______T
Meh. At first I couldn't wait to get it, but now I can wait thanks to the crappy roster :p, and I think I'll get it a little later than everyone else as well. In fact, pretty much the only reason I'm getting it now is so I can have something else to play on the Wii, though once I get bored of Brawl after awhile, my Wii will start collecting dust again anyway...

Well if you're including "understands those who are" then you can include me for Ridley.
That's good to hear. :)
 

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Prime The Roster would be wonderful were Ridley the 36th character right?


-Ciao
Or Mewtwo, but even then, SSBB's roster would still be disappointing quantity-wise.

SSB 64 had 12 characters. Melee had 25. Brawl has 35...

Even if they were to include Ridley and Mewtwo (making 37 characters), it ain't much of a gap from the last game. Brawl could've had 50 characters, and I know that's not too much to ask for. A Wii game disc has more than enough space for that many characters, but they decided to waste it to implement advertising ploys (like the "masterpiece" demos and what not). Simply pathetic. The return of clones doesn't make the sub-par roster better either. They spent so much time on stickers and other menial features that they forgot about improving the most important part...
 

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A 50 character roster? Even I didn't expect that much. 35-40 is good for me, considering Melee only put in 13 new characters, while Brawl got 16 (I count PT as 3 characters). It just doesn't seem that much with those cut from the roster.

And I could wait for Brawl...if I didn't already have it reserved AND paid in full. So I pretty much HAVE to get it the day it comes out. Yeah, I had Galaxy and Brawl paid in full by the time summer was over...

And Stryks, I don't care how long it takes for my profile to get up. As long as it has all the cool stuff I PM'ed you about.

Now I'm off to play Diablo II!
 

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Colb, can you do anything to get me unbanned from WoR? Because it really sucks how Lego just bans me even though I didn't break the rules, like I didn't spam, I just called him a ******.
 

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Prime youve gotta understand that

1. They had a FINAL DEADLINE

2. Sakurai HIMSELF viewed and altered the properties of EACH CHARACTER. that would have been more work with less time.

3. Im sure they COULD have added more characters but they didnt want to overwhelm us.

-Ciao
 

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I agree with this statement. If you want to know why Brawl isn't a game with a ridiculous amout of characters, go play a DBZ game and see how crappy they are.
"DBZBT3 Fan"

Well you are right on that part, they do have too many WTF characters in there. Most of them people only play once or twice. Like many people say, we don't want too many characters in one game, lol.

But Lip should had be in Brawl. "Dips"
 

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"DBZBT3 Fan"

Well you are right on that part, they do have too many WTF characters in there. Most of them people only play once or twice. Like many people say, we don't want too many characters in one game, lol.

But Lip should had be in Brawl. "Dips"
Ridley finds your lack of caring about him being unplayable and choosing a stupid fairy over him disturbing.
 

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Ridley finds your lack of caring about him being unplayable and choosing a stupid fairy over him disturbing.
But you must choose your most favorites first right? :laugh:

I do like Ridley, (I own almost every Metorid games), but Lip is my second favorite Nintendo character with Kirby being first. Panel De Pon is the second game I've ever owned in my life time. And that's why I choose Lip to be in before any character....
 

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Colb, can you do anything to get me unbanned from WoR? Because it really sucks how Lego just bans me even though I didn't break the rules, like I didn't spam, I just called him a ******.
Yeah, we settled everything out at the forums. I explained what guidelines I thought were necessary to ban someone, and he agreed. But don't just call people that out of nowhere. He got REALLY pissed when you said that.

As for unbanning you, unfortunetely he deleted your account, so I can't access it in any way. However, I just validated your new profile, so you're good to go. You can log back in to WoR.

Hum..

I got banned from WoR aswell..


Unban me and Yaya or your forum is dead.
As for you...I don't even remember you being a part of the group. I don't see your name in our data banks. So either you're trying to trick me to see what WoR is, or another admin deleted your profile. I really don't care which it is. If you have the URL, then join, by all means. You have to be validated my an admin before you can post, mind you, but another member won't hurt.
 

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A 50 character roster? Even I didn't expect that much. 35-40 is good for me, considering Melee only put in 13 new characters, while Brawl got 16 (I count PT as 3 characters). It just doesn't seem that much with those cut from the roster.
Meh. I guess 40 characters would've also fit the bill for me, but not 35.

Prime youve gotta understand that

1. They had a FINAL DEADLINE
And yet there were several delays. First they said it would be a launch title. Then it got moved to December 3rd, February 10th, and now March 9th...

They had plenty of time to add more than 35 characters.

2. Sakurai HIMSELF viewed and altered the properties of EACH CHARACTER.
His love for clones is palpable.

that would have been more work with less time.
Still would've made the game turn out better than it did, to a certain degree.

3. Im sure they COULD have added more characters but they didnt want to overwhelm us.

-Ciao
Overwhelm us? Ha!

Don't tell me you're another Sakurai loyalist who will go to the ends of the earth to defend his decisions.
It reminds me of the time I saw a phrase on somebody's sig, that if Mario were to kill a Nintendo fanboy's parents, Mario would still find a way to get away with it.

"DBZBT3 Fan"
So am I. In fact, I have most of the DBZ games for the PS2, and enjoyed 'em all.

To me, having many characters does not equal a crappy game at all, but I guess it differs for some people. :ohwell:

Well you are right on that part, they do have too many WTF characters in there. Most of them people only play once or twice.
That's my main problem with the roster right there (aside from some of the clones), and I sure as hell know that there's plenty non-obscure (and more deserving) characters that could've been added. Sakurai's judgement is worthless.

I wonder what I'm missing at Wrath of Ridley... Left a LONG time ago, after my first post.
Heh. I don't even remember you being there.

It's like a bad "adult" movie. You want to turn it off and walk away, but you keep watching hoping it gets better... ...
That's pretty much how I am with this place, to be honest (more-so than WoR).
 

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Don't tell me you're another Sakurai loyalist who will go to the ends of the earth to defend his decisions.
No, of course not. We should all hate Sakurai for making a game wich has perfect scores with all the reviwers who have the game, we should hate him for making the game everyone has been waiting for since 2001, we should hate him for focusing on balance wich is what people always disliked in Melee, we should hate him for giving us a storyline, we should hate him for giving us the top whanted characters, we should hate him for adding a stage editor, we should hate him for adding Online.

He is truly a ******* of the worst kind, he should go die in a hell fire pit.
 

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No, of course not. We should all hate Sakurai for making a game wich has perfect scores with all the reviwers who have the game
Heh. As much as this game's been hyped, I guess it would've received a perfect score no matter how crappy its roster turned out to be, no matter how outdated the graphics were, etc.

we should hate him for giving us a storyline
And a story with good guys and bad guys from different series teaming up is oh so original. :rolleyes:

As far as I'm concerned, no Smash game ever needed a storyline.

we should hate him for giving us the top whanted characters
Aside from ones like Sonic, most of the characters that were "top wanted" ended up with only a trophy, cameo appearance, or some other form of non-playable trash.

Quite a few characters on the roster weren't anywhere close to being top wanted too. R.O.B. and Pokemon Trainer being perfect examples. Not like anyone who wasn't joking ever wanted to play as someone like Ivysaur.

He is truly a ******* of the worst kind, he should go die in a hell fire pit.
Never said I hated Sakurai, or that I wanted him dead. Wouldn't go that far against someone just for making a halfassed roster in one game, though I did overestimate Sakurai before the whole January 29 leak, just like some people are still overrating him now.


Sorry if I insulted your master. I hope he can forgive me for pointing out his game's flaws. Such an unlawful act. SSBB is absolutely perfect. It couldn't have possibly been better! How dare I say it's flawed?!
 

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Gonna have to side with Prime here. I was hoping for Brawl to be the one perfect game that I won't have to complain about, unlike pretty much every game I have played so far, because I'm a perfectionist. Turns out it's not that perfect after all, with several pretty half-***** ugly parts left and lots of unnecessary stuff tacked on for the sake of Sakurai's conviction that simple sequels are bad and stuff, not to mention his love for weird characters.
It'll be lots of fun to play, but it's not exempt from criticism. Especially because Sakurai is just a designer who was doing his job. He didn't create Brawl to do us all a favour, he did it to get money. And if you're going to create something for the public and ask for money in return, you'd better be ready for the complaints about what you failed to deliver.
 

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Heh. As much as this game's been hyped, I guess it would've received a perfect score no matter how crappy its roster turned out to be, no matter how outdated the graphics were, etc.
God, you're unbelivable. Who gives a damm 'bout graphics, surely you don't, or you wouldn't even have a wii. And it has nothing to do with the Hype, since Reviwers own the game. You're just mad because your favorite character isn't in.

And a story with good guys and bad guys from different series teaming up is oh so original.

As far as I'm concerned, no Smash game ever needed a storyline.
True it didn't. but it has one, so? It's going to be awesome, stop crying, there is no perfect game.

Aside from ones like Sonic, most of the characters that were "top wanted" ended up with only a trophy, cameo appearance, or some other form of non-playable trash.

Quite a few characters on the roster weren't anywhere close to being top wanted too. R.O.B. and Pokemon Trainer being perfect examples. Not like anyone who wasn't joking ever wanted to play as someone like Ivysaur.
The only "top wanted" characters who didn't make it in any way or form was Geno, Ridley is the ONLY boss who has 2 diferent boss fights, if Sakurai made him a boss was for a reason. And we got, Dedede, Diddy, Sonic, Wario, Olimar, Wolf, Ike, and R.O.B is the WTF character. Get over it.

Never said I hated Sakurai, or that I wanted him dead. Wouldn't go that far against someone just for making a halfassed roster in one game, though I did overestimate Sakurai before the whole January 29 leak, just like some people are still overrating him now.


Sorry if I insulted your master. I hope he can forgive me for pointing out his game's flaws. Such an unlawful act. SSBB is absolutely perfect. It couldn't have possibly been better! How dare I say it's flawed?!
You're an idiot just for saying the game is flawed, hell i've heard Troll say the game is bad, but i would've never expected YOU from saying it was Flawed, how exactly is it flawed. Eh?

It's flawed because it isn't like you wanted it to be? Did they left out something they promised? eh? eh? I think not, how pray tell is it flawed.

Now, Fawriel.

with several pretty half-***** ugly parts left
Like...
 

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Wait, first you say that there is no perfect game, then you refuse to accept that Brawl has flaws? Unless I'm mistaken about the definition of "flawed", that's a contradiction.

As for the half-***** parts, well. First off is the roster, of course. There is simply no way around it. They took suggestions, had polls, they made it seem like the game wanted to please the fans. That there was such an outcry after the revelation of the roster is testament to the fact that they failed to please us. Besides that, there was a thread soon after where people could choose to replace a handful of characters in the roster with other characters while staying within the 35 character limit, and many of those answers just exchanged two or three characters, and they overlapped.
It would have been far from impossible to please a large majority of the fans.

Not to mention the clones... If they changed a few of Ganondorf's moves, why in the name of all hells did they keep that up-tilt?

Oh, and how could I forget balance?
Sure, the game's more balanced, no doubt about it.
And yet there's a handful of characters who aren't.
Marth conspicuously evaded the nerfhammer. In fact, some aspects of him got buffed!
After Ike was unusable, he suddenly became extremely powerful with most attacks being average speed instead of slow. Uh-huh.
Meanwhile Ganondorf WISHES he had any of the strengths Ike has. He has a forward-b grab thing, though. That's cool. Right?

Metaknight has extremely fast attacks that cover a range about his own size and which combo brilliantly, he's very fast himself and edgeguards people for breakfast. Of course, he doesn't have any KO moves... except for the few effective ones that he does have.
And Pit... hard to approach, hard to defend against, hard to KO, hard to survive against....................

I wouldn't be surprised if the Brawl metagame soon became all about edgeguarding and Pit, Metaknight and Dedede become the only characters who are even close to being viable.


Then there's ATs. Even that "roster" is pretty dubious. Has it been cleared up yet what happened to some characters who seem to have vanished in the final version? If ATs are there to give the characters a chance who didn't quite make it, why are there Hammer Bros and Lakitu and weirdos like that while someone like Midna remains woefully absent? If you're going to have a pity roster for the fans, why fill it with crap and then even take out half of it again?

The stage builder is awesome. But they could have given you some more options. The only blocks you have are rock and there are, what, three backgrounds? It'll get old soon.
Note, I'm not saying that this feature is bad. It's just half-*****. If you're going to add something like this, at least go all-out and make it rock.

So what happened to the Roy, Doctor Mario, Mewtwo, etc. data that was found on the disc? If we're to believe whatever sources that were ( I'm losing touch with the news... ), there won't be downloadable content.
So if they already had so many delays, why couldn't they at least go that extra few feet and at least make those characters alt costumes? On that note, why give the Pokemon Trainer such a generic name, make him the perfect protagonist for Pokemon fans to identify it, then pass up the opportunity to give him a simple female model?
All of that wouldn't have been hard, I imagine.

That's the main ones, I suppose. After all, the characters is what it's about. They're what the whole game revolves around.

Then we get little things that nobody asked for. Trophy Shooter. Cute. Stickers. Cute. Tons of music. Well... I'm the last person to complain about some good music.
But the time spent on things that nobody will care about anymore after the initial "yay" could have been invested in some of the things people actually wanted. Doesn't even have to be big things. I personally would be grateful for the option to turn off those ugly character portraits next to icons in battles, or on that note, it would have been great if the character portraits weren't ugly to begin with. If they gave the game such a pretty cover, they could have done the same in-game. Maybe even in a style more similar to their most defining games. Nostalgia factor, right?

Long story short, the game is awesome, yet they missed some obvious opportunities to make people happy and instead wasted effort on things that nobody wanted.
 

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I'm going to go ahead and completely agree with Fawriel on this one. No one can say that they'd rather have a hundred usless additions than an admiral roster and decent online play (which was the only reason anyone wanted this game a few months ago).

Haha, the only reason to own a Wii right now is this game, and it is turning out to be a total disappointment. Soon, Nintendo fans will have no choice but to move on to the Xbox 360...

*dun dun dun*

BTW, Shuma is only defending him because he's a dirty gay lava man and he enjoys arguing for the sake of arguing. Are you sure you're not Russian, Shuma?
 

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It's Friday, I'm sure you'll see me today as can stay up late if that cheers you up.

Or Mewtwo, but even then, SSBB's roster would still be disappointing quantity-wise.
I was never expecting 50, but I was expecting 38-43 about. ~ I just wanted Ridley in and Mewtwo back and that would have made me happy just about fine.

Prime youve gotta understand that

1. They had a FINAL DEADLINE

2. Sakurai HIMSELF viewed and altered the properties of EACH CHARACTER. that would have been more work with less time.

3. Im sure they COULD have added more characters but they didnt want to overwhelm us.

-Ciao
Time and work wasn't an issue if they were able to implement so many ATs and Masterpieces. Also, the reason they don't have as many characters is not because of not enough time, contstraitns, etc. but because Sakurai said he wanted to concentrate on single player and not multiplayer - and well, a large varied roster is a multiplayer thing. I remember reading where he basically specified this despite Miyamoto's complaints. Also, Sakurai did spend a lot of time on a storyline, hiring one of the most famous game writers. I'm pretty sure he could have made the roster bigger without any problems whatsoever. Faw explains this better than I do.

I think I have the right to feel disappointed about a game. I'm not the time to accuse Nintendo of being jerks like Prime is at all, nor am I the type to endorse everything given to me. I'm not calling Brawl's roster a "****ty roster," (I think the roster should have been Melee's, instead of Brawl's), just disappointing. I don't plan to run to the Xbox360 either, as I'm not into action type games it excells at. In all honesty, I think Sakurai was just on the wrong track about what the fans wanted and forgot why this game series is so well known: the multiplayer, and the ability to play as characters you wouldn't have much of a chance outside of Smash bros and that is what should come first and forthmost. It's only if you have the resources to work on other things that you do so.

... With neither Mewtwo nor Ridley in, all I care now is an opportunity to kick my sister's Marth maining ***. So long as I can beat her with some character I'm fine.

Also guys, don't make this personal; no flaming.
 

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God, you're unbelivable. Who gives a damm 'bout graphics, surely you don't, or you wouldn't even have a wii.
True. I don't care about graphics that much, but it doesn't change the fact Brawl's could've been way better. In fact, it has the worst graphics out of most of the Wii games.

You're just mad because your favorite character isn't in.
Heh. An uninformed assumption about me.

If my favorite character not being in was the only reason, I wouldn't of even bothered to bring up those other points earlier. Clones don't paint a good image either, especially with Ganondorf still being one.

The only "top wanted" characters who didn't make it in any way or form was Geno
I was simply talking about characters who didn't make the playable cut, not characters who didn't make it in any way/form. Geno's obviously not the only top wanted who didn't become playable.

Ridley is the ONLY boss who has 2 diferent boss fights
So?

if Sakurai made him a boss was for a reason.
Must've not been for a real good reason then, seeing as how he didn't even pull Ridley off as a boss correctly, and made him a Master Hand clone. They even had Ridley frequently pause at the sides of the arena like Master Hand does, whereas he's much more mobile in the Metroid games.

and R.O.B is the WTF character
So is Pokemon Trainer.

You're an idiot just for saying the game is flawed, hell i've heard Troll say the game is bad, but i would've never expected YOU from saying it was Flawed
Flawed and bad are 2 different things. If I thought Brawl was bad, I wouldn't of even pre-ordered it.

And, just because someone doesn't cockride everything about SSBB doesn't mean they hate it. I only point out certain aspects of Brawl that most aren't pleased with to show how it could've been better.

Besides, you yourself said that there is no perfect game. :ohwell: If you're implying that Brawl is perfect (which seems to be the case since you called me an idiot for saying it's not), then you basically contradicted yourself.

It's flawed because it isn't like you wanted it to be?
Not because it wasn't how I wanted it to be, but because it didn't come anywhere close to meeting the expectations of the majority.

and he enjoys arguing for the sake of arguing.
Meh. I noticed that a long time ago.

I was never expecting 50, but I was expecting 38-43 about. ~ I just wanted Ridley in and Mewtwo back and that would have made me happy just about fine.
I wasn't exactly expecting 50 characters either. Just saying, it could've had that.

And yeah. I agree about the other part (needless to say).
 

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Wait, first you say that there is no perfect game, then you refuse to accept that Brawl has flaws? Unless I'm mistaken about the definition of "flawed", that's a contradiction.
It has flaws, but you and i know Prime didn't meant to say it wasn't perfect, the only flaws i know of are that there are still glitches like Bowser's infinte jump etc etc.

As for the half-***** parts, well. First off is the roster, of course. There is simply no way around it. They took suggestions, had polls, they made it seem like the game wanted to please the fans. That there was such an outcry after the revelation of the roster is testament to the fact that they failed to please us. Besides that, there was a thread soon after where people could choose to replace a handful of characters in the roster with other characters while staying within the 35 character limit, and many of those answers just exchanged two or three characters, and they overlapped.
It would have been far from impossible to please a large majority of the fans.
The Roster is not half *****, the ONLY character that should've been t here and was left out was Mewtwo, and even he was planned to be in the game.

Why exactly is the roster half assed? because it lacks 2 characters you whanted? Oh ok.

Not to mention the clones.
Young Link... and...

Uuuh... yeah, since we know Ganondorf is luigified, his moves may work bassicaly the same but one is diferent, other 2 have a diferent animation. It's luigified, and you can't deny it.

And about the balance, like i said, no game is perfect, still, like you said, it's more balanced, and that's something, and we do not know if Ganondorf is bad, last time i saw he was still pretty powerfull.

Your next 2 points are irrelevant(Ats and Stage Builder) thei're bonus, and Sakurai knows most people play withouth items.

It's like i give you 5 bucks and you complain about me not giving you more.

So what happened to the Roy, Doctor Mario, Mewtwo, etc. data that was found on the disc? If we're to believe whatever sources that were ( I'm losing touch with the news... ), there won't be downloadable content.
So if they already had so many delays, why couldn't they at least go that extra few feet and at least make those characters alt costumes? On that note, why give the Pokemon Trainer such a generic name, make him the perfect protagonist for Pokemon fans to identify it, then pass up the opportunity to give him a simple female model?
All of that wouldn't have been hard, I imagine.
Last news i heard is that ONLY Roy and Mewtwo files where found, IIRC the others were a lie. And Pokemon Trainer got a generic name? geez i wonder why. Since you can rename him in the games and you can get your own name in brawl who gives a crap.

And i'm getting tired 'bout the female argument. Who gives a damm for more females, this is a ****ing fighthing game, not DDoA Bolleyball, and why do you whant more womans? you whant to fap to a videogame? i really can't find any reason behind the more females argument, so please enlighten me.

Then we get little things that nobody asked for. Trophy Shooter. Cute. Stickers. Cute. Tons of music. Well... I'm the last person to complain about some good music.
But the time spent on things that nobody will care about anymore after the initial "yay" could have been invested in some of the things people actually wanted. Doesn't even have to be big things. I personally would be grateful for the option to turn off those ugly character portraits next to icons in battles, or on that note, it would have been great if the character portraits weren't ugly to begin with. If they gave the game such a pretty cover, they could have done the same in-game. Maybe even in a style more similar to their most defining games. Nostalgia factor, right?
I'll have to agree with you here.

I'm going to go ahead and completely agree with Fawriel on this one. No one can say that they'd rather have a hundred usless additions than an admiral roster and decent online play (which was the only reason anyone wanted this game a few months ago).
Yeah sure, no one whants the game now because Ridley is not a character. Go try and kill yourself again.

Haha, the only reason to own a Wii right now is this game, and it is turning out to be a total disappointment. Soon, Nintendo fans will have no choice but to move on to the Xbox 360...
You're such an ignorant idiot i'm not even going to waste breath by arguing with this point.

BTW, Shuma is only defending him because he's a dirty gay lava man and he enjoys arguing for the sake of arguing. Are you sure you're not Russian, Shuma?
You know, the only reason i'm not warning you is because i would be endangering this thread, still, my patience has a limit, and i don't like you, Don't test me.

but because Sakurai said he wanted to concentrate on single player and not multiplayer - and well, a large varied roster is a multiplayer thing. I remember reading where he basically specified this despite Miyamoto's complaints.
Wrong, Miyamoto forced Sakurai to make a Smash a multyplayer game in the last 2 tittles, since Sakurai was leaving, Miyamoto asked him to do this smash anyway he whanted, and yes, Sakurai whanted to give Smash a great storyline.

In all honesty, I think Sakurai was just on the wrong track about what the fans wanted
Not really, my theory is that if Sakurai left Mewtwo and RIdley out was for a reason, i can think of only one.

Sakurai knew melee didn't do Mewtwo's justice, so i guess he did plan to implement him in the game(a fact) however i guess he was too dificult to balance, he clearly was too dificult to balance in melee, hence why he was nerfed a lot.

And Ridley... it's way obvious why he is a boss, the best argument i heard 'bout why Ridley wouldn't fit in the roster, was that maybe it wouldn't do "ridley's justice". This plust balancing a ****ing lighthing fast super space dragon must have given Sakurai the idea of making him a boss.

My theory.
 

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Damm it, they come in pairs.

In fact, it has the worst graphics out of most of the Wii games.
Haha, you must be blind then.

If my favorite character not being in was the only reason, I wouldn't of even bothered to bring up those other points earlier. Clones don't paint a good image either, especially with Ganondorf still being one.
Surprise, there's only 2 clones WW link and Lucas, Ganon and Falco are luigified.

I was simply talking about characters who didn't make the playable cut, not characters who didn't make it in any way/form. Geno's obviously not the only top wanted who didn't become playable.
Who else, besides Ridley then.

Must've not been for a real good reason then, seeing as how he didn't even pull Ridley off as a boss correctly, and made him a Master Hand clone. They even had Ridley frequently pause at the sides of the arena like Master Hand does, whereas he's much more mobile in the Metroid games.
This is not a Metroid game.

Flawed and bad are 2 different things. If I thought Brawl was bad, I wouldn't of even pre-ordered it.

And, just because someone doesn't cockride everything about SSBB doesn't mean they hate it. I only point out certain aspects of Brawl that most aren't pleased with to show how it could've been better.

Besides, you yourself said that there is no perfect game. If you're implying that Brawl is perfect (which seems to be the case since you called me an idiot for saying it's not), then you basically contradicted yourself.
see above.

Not because it wasn't how I wanted it to be, but because it didn't come anywhere close to meeting the expectations of the majority.
I see everyone happy 'bout the game but you and Fawriel.

Meh. I noticed that a long time ago.
Of course. I argue because i think you're Wrong. Why else would i argue.
 
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