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Stryks presents: War of the clubs 2.0! UPDATE: 18/03/08

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SiegK

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Just like the old Ridley Threads, random crap no one cares about.
Yeah... Heck, I dont know what your commenting on but I just lmao off when I read this. Ya know, Heh. I still have the old "Closed" Ridley Thread on my "List Subscriptions" for a quick laugh whenever I need one. Ridley Thread, random crap no one cares about... true story.

Yeah, Im really tired so I apologize if this pisses anyone off. Lawl. 4:45am time for sleep.
 

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Yeah, Im really tired so I apologize if this pisses anyone off.
Like you always do, you're one troll *******. Why don't go and find something else to troll eh? shoo shoo.
 

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You suck at arguing.
The Roster is not half *****, the ONLY character that should've been t here and was left out was Mewtwo, and even he was planned to be in the game.

Why exactly is the roster half assed? because it lacks 2 characters you whanted? Oh ok.
Reason 1 why you suck at arguing.
You might as well have repeated what I said in a baby voice.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, there was no one character who I wanted so bad that they are a deciding factor for me wanting the game. What I don't like that much is the overall impression I get from the roster. But even that's beside the point. The roster is not half-***** because it doesn't please me, it's half-***** because it doesn't please a whole **** lot of people.
Don't act like everyone was happy. Most people have accepted it by now, including me, but I have counted only a handful of people who actually LIKED the roster when it was announced.



Young Link... and...

Uuuh... yeah, since we know Ganondorf is luigified, his moves may work bassicaly the same but one is diferent, other 2 have a diferent animation. It's luigified, and you can't deny it.
I'm not denying that he's luigified. But are you going to deny that "luigified" just means "a clone except with some different parts"?
Then again, the clone moveset argument is relatively unimportant to me anyway, so I'll drop that one.

And about the balance, like i said, no game is perfect, still, like you said, it's more balanced, and that's something, and we do not know if Ganondorf is bad, last time i saw he was still pretty powerfull.

Your next 2 points are irrelevant(Ats and Stage Builder) thei're bonus, and Sakurai knows most people play withouth items.
And another reason: You just don't get it.
If you're going to make something for the game, do it RIGHT. If we already know that a few characters excel over the others after playing it for a few days, how did THAT slip by the months of balancing?
If he's going to put in bonuses, why bother at all if you're going to do a half-***** job?

It's like i give you 5 bucks and you complain about me not giving you more.
This is probably the worst part of your post. It's not like that AT ALL.
It's like if you're a salesman for SHIRTS, you have a bunch of clean, nice shirts on display and I ask you to SELL me a nice shirt, you tell me to give you 5 bucks, I give you five bucks, and you give me a nice shirt except it has coffee stains on it!
The shirt is nice, but it has flaws, and you are just being an idiot if you want to deny me the right to complain to the salesman for not doing his job as well as he could!

SAKURAI.
IS.
NOT.
SANTA CLAUS.


And i'm getting tired 'bout the female argument. Who gives a damm for more females, this is a ****ing fighthing game, not DDoA Bolleyball, and why do you whant more womans? you whant to fap to a videogame? i really can't find any reason behind the more females argument, so please enlighten me.
Girls have cooties.

Sakurai knew melee didn't do Mewtwo's justice, so i guess he did plan to implement him in the game(a fact) however i guess he was too dificult to balance, he clearly was too dificult to balance in melee, hence why he was nerfed a lot.

And Ridley... it's way obvious why he is a boss, the best argument i heard 'bout why Ridley wouldn't fit in the roster, was that maybe it wouldn't do "ridley's justice". This plust balancing a ****ing lighthing fast super space dragon must have given Sakurai the idea of making him a boss.

My theory.
A theory shared by others as well.
Except Sakurai would have to be full of bull**** to really think that.
Ganondorf can raze a whole kingdom into ruins with his power. The only reason Link is able to defeat him in the games is because he has the Sword of Evil's Bane. Nothing else could harm him. So how come Ganondorf is fair game?

And what ticks me off the most... some god**** middle-aged racecar driver in spandex whom nobody cared about before Smash is allowed to be extremely fast, have super strength and be a heavy weight, yet they can't do the same for frikkin Ridley or Mewtwo?!



PS: Hmmmm, Lakers.
 

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Fawreil who made a Sheik w. boobs?

Oh and Ganon may be the worst in the game....@ the same time I find everyone to be useable but it was a rather unexpected roster....

(Mad @ Less fire emblem reps) lolz

-Caio
 

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Cmon....Stryks can Definitly use this as a Reference for his comic.

I feel like Zetsu

-Ciao
 

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Lolz Whered Fawreil go? I wanna know who took the time to make sheik as a female!


-Ciao
 

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Which explains why the fair lost power...!!!

Hey BTW Im willing to bet in 6 months people are still gonna like this game! (Lets stop spamming stryks' Thread)
And the people that dont think they r gonna like it....r gonna like it


-Ciao
 

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^^ Hah Its Fair Alright....Her Version of "Fair" ends up with her on top....GRR!!

Infact I call it the UNFair


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Peach is terrible....Everytime Mario goes 2 her house...SHES IN ANOTHER HOUSE?!?!?!?

Lolz that being said....Why arent there more females in brawl...its gonna discourage my GF from playing...cuz shes always like "I wanna use a girl....dont care who it is....just wanna use a girl"


Why is our society so discriminatory in everything?

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omg stop obsessing over fake women ><

Unless they're Peach
I'd hate obsessing over fake women... I mean, imagine that, you're all like "omg womanz yayayayay" and then they suddenly have a weewee. What's up with that, yo.



Err, that wasn't what you meant?
 

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It has flaws, but you and i know Prime didn't meant to say it wasn't perfect


It not being perfect was what I said. Just in different words.


flawed /flɔd/
–adjective
characterized by flaws; having imperfections: a flawed gem; a seriously flawed piece of work.

the ONLY character that should've been t here and was left out was Mewtwo, and even he was planned to be in the game.
At least we agree about Mewtwo.

Young Link... and...

Uuuh... yeah, since we know Ganondorf is luigified, his moves may work bassicaly the same but one is diferent, other 2 have a diferent animation. It's luigified, and you can't deny it.
Yes he can.

Ganondorf and Captain Falcon still have the same B moves, just like they did in Melee. Some of their A moves are different in speed... just like they were in Melee.

They're still clones.

Supporting the idea that Ganondorf isn't a clone just by having different animations when he still executes the same moves as Falcon... just seems a little too desperate.

Your next 2 points are irrelevant(Ats and Stage Builder) thei're bonus, and Sakurai knows most people play withouth items.
If he knows that, then why did he bother adding ATs at all? They are considered items, which can be turned off.

Not really, my theory is that if Sakurai left Mewtwo and RIdley out was for a reason, i can think of only one.

Sakurai knew melee didn't do Mewtwo's justice, so i guess he did plan to implement him in the game(a fact) however i guess he was too dificult to balance, he clearly was too dificult to balance in melee, hence why he was nerfed a lot.
The main problems with him in Melee was that he executed his attacks rather slowly, was way too slow while in mid-air (making it easy for fast opponents to KO him), the distance of his Shadow Ball was too limited, and had a crappy side B attack, along with an Up+B move that didn't do any damage. Most (if not all of those) things with Mewtwo could've been fixed easily. After all, they did beef up Bowser's stats in Brawl by a landslide. Mewtwo had just as much potential to get improved.

And Ridley... it's way obvious why he is a boss, the best argument i heard 'bout why Ridley wouldn't fit in the roster, was that maybe it wouldn't do "ridley's justice".
How would it not do him justice?

This plust balancing a ****ing lighthing fast super space dragon must have given Sakurai the idea of making him a boss.
So Sakurai couldn't balance Ridley because of his speed, eh? Then by that, he wouldn't of been able to add Sonic either, since he's faster than Ridley.


Meh. Regardless, I don't care what Sakurai's reasons were for excluding him and Mewtwo, but your theories of what they were are most likely the case.

Haha, you must be blind then.
Quite the opposite. The detail of Samus's Varia Suit in Brawl for instance doesn't come anywhere close to the models used in the Prime trilogy. If you're in denial of that, then it's you who is the blind one.

There's plenty of Wii games with better graphics than Brawl.

Surprise, there's only 2 clones WW link and Lucas, Ganon and Falco are luigified.
Ha ha. Nope.



Only real difference with Falco is he can throw his Reflector this time. Whoopdy doo.

Though not to drag this out, I suppose you can just lie to yourself about whose luigified and whose not all you want.

Who else, besides Ridley then.
Dark Samus, Krystal, King K. Rool, etc.

This is not a Metroid game.
I don't care what kind of game Brawl is. That's no excuse to give Ridley Master Hand's attacks instead of his own, even as a boss.

I see everyone happy 'bout the game but you and Fawriel.
You haven't seen anything then if you think me and Faw are the only ones who don't cockride Sakurai and his measly 35 roster.
 

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that's fawriel! giggedy giggedy goo!
and i agree that sakurai could have done a better job on brawl. you know, giving us what we wanted instead of cute little gimmicks.
 

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PRIME HOW DID WE CHANGE THE SUBJECT AND YOU MADE ANOTHER ARGUMENT??? NOOOOO!!!!!

So How bout that Micheal Jordan Reggie Miller Fight the other day?

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BTW Most of Falcos movest has been changed....
 

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and i agree that sakurai could have done a better job on brawl. you know, giving us what we wanted instead of cute little gimmicks.
Exactly.

PRIME HOW DID WE CHANGE THE SUBJECT AND YOU MADE ANOTHER ARGUMENT??? NOOOOO!!!!!
Of course. I wasn't just gonna back down after seeing derogatory comments made at me.

A subject change would still be nice though.

BTW Most of Falcos movest has been changed....
Most is an overstatement.
 

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Prime settle down

It doesnt matter WHOSE dissapointed with the roster, the game will sell, and im SURE u will buy it, I mean ur in a forum about SMASH BROS, ur going to buy it...
Im dissapointed ridley, black knight and megaman aint playable, am I complaining? no, am I complaining the clones are somewhat identical, no, cause theyre still diferent in their own way, and I believe sakurai left the clones as they are so veteran players dont have to master their characters from scratch again...

and repryx... how is ganon the worst character in the game? HAVE u played it?
 

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Wow, this place is very active for this time of day. o_O I was expecting to have to wait till 8Pm my time for people to actually get online.

Ok guys, knock it off and drop it. I don't want this place locked down, got it?
Prime, I know you dislike the roster, but it's useless to argue like this at this point. Some people like the roster, and some people don't, it's all about opinions and we can only agree to disagree, and as for why Ridley was included, that's only something we can guess at. If you ask me, he wasn't included because Sakurai thought Samus and ZSS were enough Metroid rep. Nothing more complicated than that.
 

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^^ Sure PRime Fine...Want a McMuffin?
McMuffin sounds better, but nah. Not hungry right now. Had cereal awhile ago. :p

It doesnt matter WHOSE dissapointed with the roster, the game will sell, and im SURE u will buy it, I mean ur in a forum about SMASH BROS, ur going to buy it...
Of course. Never said I wasn't going to get it.

Im dissapointed ridley, black knight and megaman aint playable, am I complaining? no, am I complaining the clones are somewhat identical, no
Like Faw said earlier, Brawl will be lots of fun to play, but it's not exempt from criticism. Unless there's a rule on SWF that states we can't have an opinion or somethin', I can say whatever the hell I want about the game, whether it be complaining about it or priasing it.

and I believe sakurai left the clones as they are so veteran players dont have to master their characters from scratch again...
Meh. Ya'll just stick with your beliefs and I'll stick with mine.

It's because some people can't accept any negativity towards the game (as if it were a Bible or somethin') that some things I say about it tend to cause unnecessary arguing. >_> Have a problem with my take on SSBB's roster or somethin'? Then STFU. Would rather not have anymore bickering here (not like this thread doesn't get enough of that already).

Shuma, you can still retaliate against this or my other posts if you want, but I'm not gonna waste further time replying back to you defending Sakurai's decisions, or your denial of Ganondorf being a clone again, or any of that other stuff.
Have a nice day.

And Faw, I suggest you do the same.

I don't want this place locked down, got it?
Me neither... And that's exactly why I'm stopping this.
 

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nice one, rey. glad you shared that one with us.

so, anyone else so sick they only got an hour of sleep last night?
 

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so, anyone else so sick they only got an hour of sleep last night?
No, though I did go to sleep a lot earlier than usual for some reason, causing me to wake up earlier than usual, and as fate would have it, my classes were cancelled today. xd
 

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No, though I did go to sleep a lot earlier than usual for some reason, causing me to wake up earlier than usual, and as fate would have it, my classes were cancelled today. xd
Hey, at least you don't live in we-hate-your-timezone like I do. Even if I get the day off no one is online.
 
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