Stop competing with each other

[Banks]

I think NE has a pretty solid grip on this.

When something is scheduled, people try not to interfere. they often even reschedule if they later find out something is on the same day.

when regional type things are ran (mass madness for example which doesn't have the space or time for both), brawl and melee are on seperate days on a sat and sun, and people can either go to one or get housing and go to both

on top of that, when experienced TO's who are used to running both do stuff (VLS 3 this weekend for example), people trust the venue is in order and both games coexist and the attendance doesn't suffer at all on a regional level just because it's "both games"

 

[Solid Jake]

I think NE has a pretty solid grip on this.

When something is scheduled, people try not to interfere. they often even reschedule if they later find out something is on the same day.

when regional type things are ran (mass madness for example which doesn't have the space or time for both), brawl and melee are on seperate days on a sat and sun, and people can either go to one or get housing and go to both

on top of that, when experienced TO's who are used to running both do stuff (VLS 3 this weekend for example), people trust the venue is in order and both games coexist and the attendance doesn't suffer at all on a regional level just because it's "both games"

Yeah we are fortunate that all the TO's in New England are actively in touch with one another. It's rare to see even Melee and Brawl overlap.

 

[o-Serin-o]

I'm done with MvB, but I'll end with this note.

Contrary to what you may believe about me, I'm not a complete scrub in either game. I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about.

 

[Banks]

Playing Brawl boosts smarts quicker than Melee does.

With no combos, you have to be quick on reactions for good follow ups and reads.

that is such a ******** post

the most ******** post of the whole thread

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Playing Brawl boosts smarts quicker than Melee does.

With no combos, you have to be quick on reactions for good follow ups and reads.

False. Melee's faster pace will train to think smart at a faster pace (I.E. Melee's pace) than Brawl's slower pace. Thinking smart means little when you can't keep up with the game.

Also, a LGL on Jiggs will basically kill stalling potentioal with Jiggs simply due to the physics, lack of gliding, and rules already present to reduce it(Like the prohibition of Rising Pound stalls under the stage).

Not going after either game. Just want to make sure you have your facts straight.

You'd have to give us like.. 2 years before we actually got good. 2 years of jigglypuff = beating people who have played the game for 7 years.

Anyone who thinks this is true is foolish.

Anyway, though this is 2 communities we are talking about(the base is broken enough to warrant calling it 2 sequels), having both games run at the same venue might cause Issues like having to wait for GameA's tourney to finish for GameB to begin.

 

[Banks]

jiggs planking is only "unpunishable" by a few characters. There have been people who went with that strategy to some success, but it doesn't win you tournaments

the reason serin's post is ******** is because he is implying melee doesn't require 'quick reactions' and follow ups.

minus guaranteed combos (which aren't many), craploads of combos rely on tech chasing and reading/following DI which happens VERY quickly. after you correctly react to those (quickly btw. it's quick), THEN you need to properly execute your punishment.

Brawl has it's own reaction game with the air dodge system and other stuff i'm sure. i really don't know too much

but LOL @ you implying combo's in a game = not having to react and read

that is pivotal to melee because of DI/teching which are entirely controlled by your opponent after you hit or throw them, and on top of that your actions must change based on percent

 

[o-Serin-o]

Banks, you're assuming I said such a thing. Which is incredibly stupid to imply. Melee does require it too. I'm just saying that Bawrl players have to rely it, quite frankly, a little bit more than melee players.

I'm not gonna start ****, but make sure I actually say it before you assume things.

 

[Banks]

Playing Brawl boosts smarts quicker than Melee does.

With no combos, you have to be quick on reactions for good follow ups and reads.

i thought you meant brawl boosts smarts quicker than melee

because (in brawl) you have to be quick on reactions for good follow ups and reads


which seems to imply lack of that in melee in the second sentence, because of that first sentence

that's what i got out of that anyway

but i'm just postin around randomly

[also it would be interesting for someone to analyze a few high level matches in each game and see how many times a given player is forced to react to something the other does. ]

 

[o-Serin-o]

Ehhhh I could have worded it better, but it's late and I'm suppose to be typing an essay for tomorrow.

 

[Banks]

at least it gave me a reason to type a melee-f@g response

gotta make a few of those a month

AT LEAST

 

[Pi]

wait...
are you guys serious? (brawlers)
...
na
can't be
stop trolling

 

[King Funk]

Mew2King made his point, and the discussion between you guys is boring, stupid and out of context.

Close this thread.

 

[Plairnkk]

Saturdays are the most popular days for tournaments and have always been the main tournament day.

A new game coming out doesnt = an extra day to run tournaments on.

Deal with it, prioritize, move on


I like running multiple events at my tournaments but you can't expect all TO's to double their workload for locals and such

 

[ADHD]

Anyone who thinks this is true is foolish.

Anyway, though this is 2 communities we are talking about(the base is broken enough to warrant calling it 2 sequels), having both games run at the same venue might cause Issues like having to wait for GameA's tourney to finish for GameB to begin.

Wait, why? Smash is all about the time you invest in it. If you invest ALOT of play time into jigglypuff, I don't see why you can't be beating good level players by the end of the 2nd year. Maybe even 1st.

 

[Angbad]

we already have legions of scrubs that try that same idea....a bunch more wont hurt us none =).

Amazing sig lmao

 

[ROMBO69]

Whats there to compete with?

Melee > brawl .. its not even a question..

All they ever say is.. UR GAMES OLD BLAH BLAH BLAH

 

[The Star King]

Lol @ the legions of morons who didn't read the OP and only came in here to participate in a Brawl vs. Melee flame war.

Maybe you should have worded the thread title more carefully, M2K

 

[ranmaru]

Well, I disagree with having melee and brawl being held in the same day. Unless the TO can handle it, then fine. Like Apex, it was a blast, but there was some lack of communication. (M2k being threatened to be dq'd while in a brawl tourney match)

Even so, I'm on the look out for venues, and I don't intend at all to hold brawl. There are tons of places that hold brawl in pa, so forget it. I mean people can bring some setups if they want to, provided that there is an extra tv for it. But melee would be my priority. Melee's dry in pa, so that is what I need to host.

Although I do agree t.o's need to work together and I will too to the best of my ability. I will even use the calendar. What's wrong with the calendar anyways? Maybe people who aren't registered can see what's up.

 

[AllyKnight]

Melee people spam **** and hope they hit, then follow up with combos lmao brainless dogs. /FLAME SHIELD UP.

 

[-Ran]

Both games are fun, and the needless animosity from each side just highlights the immaturity of our community. Treat the two like different games; it's really just that simple. Beyond that, share the venue to reduce the cost for everyone there. This also provides an easy way for everyone to car pool to the events since there might only be one Melee person in the area, but three Brawl players that are going to attend the tournament.

 

[Republican0fHeaven]

Stop running tournaments within 2-3 hours of each other on the same day. If one guy is running a tournament on Saturday, you should run yours on Sunday (or Friday). This allows for the attendance of both tournaments to be greater and is better for the community.

and allows for someone (wonder who?) to make more money lolz

 

[King Funk]

and allows for someone (wonder who?) to make more money lolz

You jealouz. You mad.

 

[SpongeJordan]

Why do so many people bash Brawl? I don't see people bashing Melee constantly. We prefer different games, whats the point of arguing that? "But Brawl sucks!" Melee sucks too in comparison to other games, that doesn't change that you guys still play Melee, so drop it.

 

[King Funk]

Why do so many people bash Brawl? I don't see people bashing Melee constantly. We prefer different games, whats the point of arguing that? "But Brawl sucks!" Melee sucks too in comparison to other games, that doesn't change that you guys still play Melee, so drop it.

Stop feeding the trolls.

This thread must stop, lol. >_>

 

[ranmaru]

Both games are fun, and the needless animosity from each side just highlights the immaturity of our community. Treat the two like different games; it's really just that simple. Beyond that, share the venue to reduce the cost for everyone there. This also provides an easy way for everyone to car pool to the events since there might only be one Melee person in the area, but three Brawl players that are going to attend the tournament.

Yeah there are plenty of brawl tournaments without melee side events. ;-; I mean here in pa. If there is one with a GOOD side event then I don't know about it...

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Wait, why? Smash is all about the time you invest in it. If you invest ALOT of play time into jigglypuff, I don't see why you can't be beating good level players by the end of the 2nd year. Maybe even 1st.

Your Logic is flawed.
By this Logic, I would be better than 98% of Smashbordians
since i have been playing smash since Christmas of 1999.

I can't remember where the post that sums up why.....

Here. Read this.

http://shoryuken.com/content/don-t-train-hard-train-smart%21%21%21%21-47/

 

[GTZ]

Your Logic is flawed.
By this Logic, I would be better than 98% of Smashbordians
since i have been playing smash since Christmas of 1999.

I can't remember where the post that sums up why.....

Here. Read this.

http://shoryuken.com/content/don-t-train-hard-train-smart%21%21%21%21-47/

I have to object to that statement, because me and many many other people have all played the three generations of smash. I agree that the logic may have some flaws, but the point is still construed in an effective manner. Now as for the original post, which is what should be being discussed right now, I agree that separation of melee and brawl to separate days altogether would benefit the smash community in a variety of ways. Many tournaments are run with efficiency and the organization required. When people like M2K look at what tournaments they feel like attending, wouldn't it make sense to go to one that doesn't mess around. We all have lives outside of the smash community, and I can recall on "MassMadness" one time. They ran so late with the starting of their smash singles (6+hr late) that I had to leave because I had other engagements. Point being, I agree with the proposal and stand by that decision.

 

[Deleted member]

Some people hate Melee (what?), some people hate Bawrl, nobody hates 64. Play 64.

Haha, anyways, regarding the actual topic, I don't think it's unreasonable to at least ask TOs to start tournaments in similar regions on the same day as other tournaments. TOs obviously don't have to follow this "rule" at all, but I guess it would be nice for those who want to go to lots of tournaments/go to bigger tournaments.

Then again, if that's the only good day for the TO then they should just go with what they want.

In events which have both Melee and Brawl (like Apex) they should definitely work hard to make sure that nobody gets screwed over by the fact that they're in both. It definitely shouldn't happen when certain people didn't even want to enter Melee, and they were pressured into doing so (by so many people), and eventually did it. That discourages those certain people from ever playing 2 events again.

 

[Solid Jake]

With some decent discussion, I feel the thread has run it's course.

Closing before the trolls return to the playground.