Starcraft Discussion

[DTKPch]

I get free +1 attack upgrades, and yet I still can't break D. :-(

I'm like 1500 on iccup, nice to know other smashboards people play.

Add DTK-m2, and we can play some time. I can't make games though. Something about adjusting my ports and stuff. Meh.

Also, is Hamachi a VPN? Would you all say the community is larger than iccup?

 

[KevinM]

Lol why? Starcraft if the best game on earth. The second best game wouldn't even be in the same league =D.

The amount of hours I've logged into ICCup and Hamachi, make me sad, and with school kicking my *** I can't afford it right now haha.

 

[starmatrix]

Wasted nights and summers on Starcraft.. good times though. xD

 

[Alphicans]

Anyone remember Elky? I just saw him whooping *** final table on WPT. He has about 80% of the chips. What a hero.

 

[sevenmorehills]

It feels like every good foreigner ends up playing poker. Apparently, there is a strong correlation in the skills necessary but I really don't see it.

 

[rhan]

SENARIO MODE:

1 Tank vs 4 Goons.

Which wins? Ramp is blocked by 3-4 SCV's. Siege comes 10-13 seconds after the attack starts. My friend plays Toss and this always happens and he keeps telling me that 1 Tank can take out 3 Goons.

Is he BSing?

 

[Alphicans]

You should have 4 rines if he was 4 goons (assuming dual gate and that you scouted), you shouldn't even need to pull scvs and you should have a wall up. There are very few modern maps where you cannot wall. 3 goons should be the number, not 4, if you don't have a tank by 4 goons you're doing something wrong. 3 goons come 4 rines will be able to stall long enough for a tank to save the day, if necessary I suppose you can pull like 2 scvs to absorb more damage on the ramp.

 

[rhan]

I don't know if this matters but I was in left mid on Python. So it takes more than 2 SD's to actually "block" the ramp. I usually block because my micro is bad. I'm trying to sway away from doing that though and trying to improve and have near perfect play.

 

[Alphicans]

Walling there is kinda hard yeah. Don't play python? It's not the end all be all map, infact I think it seriously sucks. Start playing on newer maps. Destination is a good place to start, and you can wall there. 1 tanks + 3-4 marines will fend off 3 goons. probably even 4.

 

[KevinM]

Python is the only map that exists... Ever.

 

[Alphicans]

^ Unfortunately the mindset of a lot of the B.net community lol.

 

[Mogwai]

that's cause python is so balanced n00b! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/maps/147_Python

funny how the map everyone plays is 60-40 in all matchups.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

How's this new avatar...

Though I had to decrease the quality to upload it onto SWF

 

[Mic_128]

Been a few more details of SC2 up on the website. The new Zerg units....wow.

http://kr.starcraft2.com/features/changeling.xml

 

[sevenmorehills]

I hate python. It's too hard =[
I like Destination and the new maps tornado and fighting spirt
And the new msl mapp odd eye looks really cool, but it might play weird

 

[Alphicans]

I feel like such a noob not playing this amazing game .

 

[F8AL]

I feel like such a noob not playing this amazing game .

It's one of the best games you'll ever play. Look forward to SC2...(whenever that comes out)

 

[Deleted member]

i don't like most of the new maps because a 4-6 factory timing push simply doesn't work against decent protoss players

like on desti

 

[Alphicans]

4-6? lol 4, 5 and 6 factory timing pushes are all very different builds. 4 is sooooo old school, and 5 is used usually only after a 2 fac push. 6 is pretty out date now anyways, not only because of the maps but because how economically based this game has turned into.

 

[Mogwai]

i liek 2 maek lotz of zurgz n 1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9a0a dem

 

[unknownPresence]

did i miss anything?
also, can any1 tell me the standard maps used now, heard iccup came out with some more maps.
or is python, dest, PA, etc still used commonly

 

[Alphicans]

PA as in paranoid android? I've quit playing for awhile and even back then that map wasn't common. Tau cross has gained in popularity I think and destination is definitely still the standard, IDK about python though.

 

[unknownPresence]

and ya paranoid android, well I guess not common, but not uncommon, I usually always saw at least one open match on PA. hmm w/e. and tau cross eh, ill probly download the latest pack on iccup and see what i get.

 

[ice_cream_man]

Does anyone know how to play the super smash bros ums game on sc?

 

[rhan]

Does anyone know how to play the super smash bros ums game on sc?

You don't.






I hate UMS games. The only one that is actually fun is Cat n Mouse. I have more fun just nuking noobs in a normal game.

 

[Winston]

that's cause python is so balanced n00b! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/maps/147_Python

funny how the map everyone plays is 60-40 in all matchups.

FD is the most common map played among players just learning competitive Melee and it definitely changes the balance of many matchups (matchups with chaingrabbing) =P

Besides, for the D ranks, massing games on a very simple map to develop mechanics makes sense. At least I think it does.

 

[Alphicans]

Yes and no. Lots of things change when on different maps. In smash not nearly as many things are influenced by a change in stage, but in SC, certain builds are far more effective on certain maps. If I were to compare python to outsider, there would be so many things a protoss or zerg could do on outsider than they could on python, it's ridiculous.

 

[unknownPresence]

Yes and no. Lots of things change when on different maps. In smash not nearly as many things are influenced by a change in stage, but in SC, certain builds are far more effective on certain maps. If I were to compare python to outsider, there would be so many things a protoss or zerg could do on outsider than they could on python, it's ridiculous.

i agree with everything except the reference to smash, like sc a ledge (or anythig else) on the map will influence the game dramatically.

 

[Alphicans]

I suppose. I was just trying to put it into perspective.

 

[Mogwai]

my Falco build gets all ****ed up by Brinstar

 

[unknownPresence]

lol mogwai
also is it just me or are the newer maps favoring terran more and more?

 

[Diddyknight]

This topic somehow got Smash into it lol ^ seems to be true. 2 v 2 especially

 

[Mogwai]

lol mogwai
also is it just me or are the newer maps favoring terran more and more?

if so, it's definitely not showing through in the starleagues, LOL

Flash is the only Terran who still looks good... but oh boy, does he ever look good .

 

[unknownPresence]

hmm wierd, im just looking at stats on teamliquid showing terran is winning with the new maps out, more than 50% of the time against both races

 

[Mogwai]

hmmm, weird, they're hugely underrepresented in starleagues though...

 

[unknownPresence]

meh, probly misread the stat then. or maybe bc they there are underrepresented, that stat is high

 

[Alphicans]

http://starcraft.homelinux.org/VODTracker/#wEC0Uuv_54BU@Ah12oPZrQtg

This pissed me off rofl.

REALLLLLLLLYYYY good game though.

 

[dealth0072]

I don't own the game legally, so I can only play on hamachi, but it is fine considering I only ever play with friends.

Its quite hilarious in a FFA when you 4 pool, and you find that another person did it, and your lings pass.

 

[unknownPresence]

that statement is quite funny if ur new to the group too

 

[Frolossus]

I play protoss, i play on iccup once in a blue moon, i suck though T.T (think d--------)
Anyone wanna give me tips? :3