Starcraft Discussion

[Mogwai]

zergling, lurkers and mutas are so sweet, they are why I love zerg

i hate when I get into huge macro games vs. toss though cause I just lost to psi storm... :\ I wish I could actually control a large army of hyrdas effectively .

 

[pockyD]

please, zerg micro is EASY!!!!

 

[kirbyraeg]

It's not easy to micro zerg against a toss whoring high templars though...

 

[Mogwai]

it was sarcasm, there was a heated debate about zerg micro earlier in the thread.

 

[Alphicans]

Mogwai I love your location btw.

 

[unknownPresence]

haha, ya mogwai ur location is funny + FBH = LAWLZ.

anyway ya, as far as starcraft discussion goes we shouldnt rlly go into original just bc of how messed up it was. BW was kind of messed up as well until the patches came out and are still being put out. I think a new one came out just this month.

 

[Mogwai]

yea, 1.16.1 came out and iccup has switched to it.

 

[unknownPresence]

they switched alrdy that was quicker than the other patches.

 

[Alphicans]

So I finally started playing again. I am actually better than before I think. I've been watching reps of pros, and really learning the game, so my knowledge of builds has grown ten fold. Watching reps is truly THE best way to get better. Just thought I'd let everyone know.

 

[unknownPresence]

rlly, i play bnet west, if u do too, hopefully we can game after this week after im done with finals//midterms

 

[Mogwai]

if people in this thread want to play me, they should IM me (WWRDude) and play me on Hamachi or ICCup.

o, and btw, this one time, I beat a Korean in starcraft. True Story.

 

[Alphicans]

Iccup doesn't work on my CPU. I'd play you on b.net though.

 

[pockyD]

just get hamachi

bnet is dumb

 

[aeghrur]

I can't get onto Bnet or Maplestory servers so... >_>
I doubt I can get onto hamachi. Maybe I should try though...
Anyways, my starcraft info isn't valid right now as I can't get on. >_>

 

[Alphicans]

How is b.net dumb? If you get CL, and the lat changer, it's pretty good. Plus good teams are on b.net.

 

[unknownPresence]

bnet is good unless u have bad connection
hamachi is for idiots who think the latency is twice as good as bnets or dont have a cd key and refuse to buy a copy (or copy one from the back of a box)

 

[Cynan Machae]

Yea BNet si fine with CL + LatChanger. But nothing wrong with hamachi, it's pretty good too.

And Mogwai I'll try to play you on Icc if I catch you there (I'm CynanMachae)

 

[pockyD]

if you're getting all that latency stuff, you may as well get hamachi; using it is much more straightforward than using b.net... no attaching weird things to your game name, meeting in a channel here, then a game there, hoping everyone has the same version, etc... just run hamachi, then run starcraft

if you AREN'T getting the latency "fixes", then yes, b.net's latency issues are pretty noticeable, and you're probably a pretty mediocre player if you aren't affected by it

 

[Mogwai]

ok, cool. I have 2 accounts, (MrSparkle and Mogwai), so I'll just friend you and keep an eye out for you signing on.

EDIT:

RE: Battlenet
I didn't use any latency fixing **** last time I played on BNet and my mutalisks were completely useless due to the lag

 

[unknownPresence]

wtf, hamachi lags i dont care what any1 says, if some1 has bad latency thr are going to lag whether its bnet hamachi iccup or fish bnet.

plus bnet u can join random games, hamachi is know about a game and enter it, no random ppl.

 

[Mogwai]

iccup > all

ggs cynan, I really need to get a handle of controlling my drops and stuff

 

[Cynan Machae]

GGs yea

 

[Alphicans]

Cynan we should play. Find me on Op X-1 (west).

 

[Cynan Machae]

Yea sure. You're Alphican there too?

 

[pockyD]

wtf, hamachi lags i dont care what any1 says, if some1 has bad latency thr are going to lag whether its bnet hamachi iccup or fish bnet.

You don't seem to understand the difference between choppiness (game's skipping, drop player screen comes up) and regular input lag (you click a unit, and it takes half a second to respond instead of like a tenth of a second)

The first is present everywhere. The second is largely controlled by the game server.

Have you ever "Set the network to extra high latency?" Latency = lag... that is to say, when you set it to extra high latency, you're artificially increasing the time it takes for your units to respond (you do this on b.net to reduce the choppiness lag, which is much more important when you're playing just for fun, with no interest in doing anything competitive)

Having super low latency is critical in competitive play, because being even a tiny bit late on something can cost you everything

Ever play brawl online, or on an HDTV? running into random fsmashes because you couldn't defend in time? Same concept

plus bnet u can join random games, hamachi is know about a game and enter it, no random ppl.

the whole discussion here was about how you can play people on smashboards, so I don't see how that's relevant.

Plus, if you want to play 'good' random people, iccup is where it's at

 

[KevinM]

I loved ICCup ^_^

I really need to get a mouse so i can play some of you guys.

It's been like 5 months :\

 

[Mogwai]

do it!

i will lurk you or die trying! (probably the 2nd one)

 

[KevinM]

I used to play zerg so I can deal with Le Lurks. ^_^

 

[Mogwai]

oh, well, somehow ZvZ is now my top matchup, despite my not great micro.

I just have good build orders and understanding of what's happening in ZvZ.

 

[KevinM]

haha it's all good I play Toss ^_^

 

[Mogwai]

haha it's all good I play Toss ^_^

toss are gay, get *****

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

Anyone wanna do a comp stomp with me? I'm not that good. :-/

 

[Mogwai]

Anyone wanna do a comp stomp with me? I'm not that good. :-/

comp stomps are at their best when you are nuking your teammates >=)

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

That would make me sad.

Wanna?

 

[pockyD]

nuke you? ok!

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

*makes sure to disable alliance early*

 

[Mogwai]

*infests command center*

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

Soo...play?

 

[Alphicans]

Cynan I am X-Alphicans on b.net. I was WinterTerran on Iccup, but i can't do that anymore.

 

[unknownPresence]

the discussion over hamachi wasnt about setting up games with ppl an smashboards, it was brought up as a way to play with some1. some1 said lets play on bnet, the person replied hamachi is bttr, hence that is viable to bring up in the argument about hamachi.